Pollution......we’re all going to die.

[utvolpj]

The solution is the obvious one. Fire.

Sorry but I put clean burning plastics on the same level as clean coal. Don't think we have the technology. I think we should shoot it toward the sun instead

 

[Vol737]

It would not hurt. Libs need to get off the Global Warming Climate Change nonsense and focus on the basics again. Pollution in our waters is a real problem.

Amen. They/we need to start with what we can actually control vs pie in the sky bureaucratic programs that are voracious consumers of tax dollars and cannot/will not deliver what politicians promise/lie that they can.

 

[1972 Grad]

Bio-plastics.

We didn't even have plastic trash bags when I grew up. We used our paper grocery bags. Talking about a mess when stuff leaked in them. We did have a garbage disposal under the kitchen sink to grind stuff up.

 

[hog88]

Sorry but I put clean burning plastics on the same level as clean coal. Don't think we have the technology. I think we should shoot it toward the sun instead

@RavinDave can get into the science of scrubbers with you but we have the technology. Besides wouldn't it be nice to replace as much coal energy production as possible with burning trash?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Damn treehugging liberal

I’m what you would call a business conservative, Classic liberal.
If we’re putting a name on it.

I do not believe that man made climate change is the threat we’ve been told it is.
I sincerely believe that pollution is the much more immediate threat that could be globally devastating.

 

[Grand Vol]

Just trying to have what I consider a regular conversation with you. It's hard to lock you down to a position since you just like to argue.

No, you're trying to corner me into a position which is entirely unrelated.

You say banning straws is a good thing. I said it was ironic they would ban one form of plastic waste only to turn around and give out yet another form of plastic waste that's made of far more material than the one they banned. You said it wasn't irony because they can recycle it. Yet, they can't.

Regardless of the "exchange" program, how many of those needles actually get put in the proper bins anyway? It's a moot point.

 

[Mick]

We didn't even have plastic trash bags when I grew up. We used our paper grocery bags. Talking about a mess when stuff leaked in them.

Must have been rough taking it out back and throwing it over the bank.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Sorry but I put clean burning plastics on the same level as clean coal. Don't think we have the technology. I think we should shoot it toward the sun instead

Rail guns
Melt it too a small mass and launch it.


I can get behind that idea

 

[1972 Grad]

Must have been rough taking it out back and throwing it over the bank.

I lived in town. We took the bags and put them in bigger metal trash cans (not plastic) , and the city picked them up and hauled the trash away. I guess you think they put it in the river?

One other thing is that we had a lot less trash back in the early days. There were no drink cans to dispose of. We used cloth napkins, cloth kitchen towels (not paper towels) to wipe up messes, glasses to drink out of, no styrofoam or plastic cups. Meat from the grocery store was wrapped in paper, with no styrofoam lids with plastic shrink wrapped over it, no fast food trash to get rid of, fresh vegetables, etc. We either ate the corn off the cob or stripped it off and cooked it, broke and strung green beans, instead of getting them from a can, etc.. No tv dinners with containers to dispose of. A lot less trash than what we have today.

 

[Mick]

No, you're trying to corner me into a position which is entirely unrelated.

You say banning straws is a good thing. I said it was ironic they would ban one form of plastic waste only to turn around and give out yet another form of plastic waste that's made of far more material than the one they banned. You said it wasn't irony because they can recycle it. Yet, they can't.

Regardless of the "exchange" program, how many of those needles actually get put in the proper bins anyway? It's a moot point.

I think what you are wanting to say is it would also be helpful to reduce plastic pollution if they didn't "advocate" needle use. Maybe so, Grand.

 

[Grand Vol]

This was requested earlier as to converting plastic into fuel.



However, I did a bit more research and the technology is still being worked:

Scientists Just Turned Plastic Bottles And Bags Into Liquid Fuel

Researchers turn old plastic bottles into fuel - CNN

Groundbreaking Technique can Turn Plastic Waste into Energy-Dense Fuel | Digital Trends

Turning waste into power: the plastic to fuel projects

Of course, no matter how helpful it could be in helping the problem, there's always the environmental crowd to screech about it:

The waste-to-fuel industry has received some opposition from environmental organisations, with protests causing the halting of a planned waste-to-fuel facility in Lancashire last year, and investigations launched into such sites in Canberra, Australia following environmentalists’ complaints.

Larry O’Loughlin, executive director of the ACT Conservation Council, spoke to The Guardian about the environmental threat he says waste-to-plastic sites pose. He rejected the notion that the industry is a form of recycling, as the plastics may only be used once before being turned into fuel. He also argued that widespread adoption of the method could slow efforts to find fuel alternatives, saying: “At a time of reducing carbon emissions, they are introducing another fossil fuel. The ACT is trying to move to zero emissions by 2050. How are we going to do that by setting up a refinery here?”

Which is typical of the environmental crowd. No matter what is new and potentially helpful, they don't want it.

 

[Grand Vol]

I think what you are wanting to say is it would also be helpful to reduce plastic pollution if they didn't "advocate" needle use. Maybe so, Grand.

No, I'm saying there needs to be enhanced recycling efforts nationwide instead of selected areas banning certain materials. Here in this nation rather than shipping it overseas where it ends up being resold to us.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

We didn't even have plastic trash bags when I grew up. We used our paper grocery bags. Talking about a mess when stuff leaked in them. We did have a garbage disposal under the kitchen sink to grind stuff up.

Kids these days:

 

[Grand Vol]

And Mick, not to go down the rabbit hole, but the same rationale holds for gun control.

"Ermahgerd! Gun are bad! We should ban!"

"Ermahgerd! Plastic straws are bad! We should ban!"

Banning doesn't solve the problem.

 

[Grand Vol]

Kids these days:

Congrats on getting trolled by AOC.

 

[McDad]

Rail guns
Melt it too a small mass and launch it.


I can get behind that idea

I have had an idea for a while and I want to get your insight considering your occupation.

Do you think much of the plastic waste could be recycled into building materials? I'm thinking of external items like decking, fascia, siding, etc. But aslo interior components like mouldings, framing studs, backer board. Studs, for example, could be engineered with say a 60/40 plastics to wood chip held together with the help of strong adhesives.

 

[lawgator1]

Trump has secret plan to send all of our trash to Mexico. Or to Mars.

 

[Grand Vol]

Trump has secret plan to send all of our trash to Mexico. Or to Mars.

Liberals already have the option to move to Mexico. Are you thinking he should forcibly deport them?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Glad you and Grand see eye to eye that California is to blame for the plastics in the oceans because of it's clean needle program. They are not the only state with such programs and if you exchange your old needle for a new one that is one less needle that makes it way into the oceans.

Yea the druggies are waiting to get high and walk blocks to exchange them instead of just picking one up laying there.

You all are some of the most naive people in the world. Looks great on paper, no way in hell is it happening that way.

 

[hog88]

I have had an idea for a while and I want to get your insight considering your occupation.

Do you think much of the plastic waste could be recycled into building materials? I'm thinking of external items like decking, fascia, siding, etc. But aslo interior components like mouldings, framing studs, backer board. Studs, for example, could be engineered with say a 60/40 plastics to wood chip held together with the help of strong adhesives.

Pretty sure Trex is mostly recycled material.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I have had an idea for a while and I want to get your insight considering your occupation.

Do you think much of the plastic waste could be recycled into building materials? I'm thinking of external items like decking, fascia, siding, etc. But aslo interior components like mouldings, framing studs, backer board. Studs, for example, could be engineered with say a 60/40 plastics to wood chip held together with the help of strong adhesives.

I’ve been experimenting with this idea already.
I currently have 4 miserable failures to speak of.

 

[1972 Grad]

Pretty sure Trex is mostly recycled material.

I think it is. I am getting ready to buy some Trex Transcend decking for our house build.

 

[McDad]

I’ve been experimenting with this idea already.
I currently have 4 miserable failures to speak of.

I would really like to hear more, if you have time.

 

[McDad]

Pretty sure Trex is mostly recycled material.

There are some plastic exterior trim components, too.

 

[Grand Vol]

I’ve been experimenting with this idea already.
I currently have 4 miserable failures to speak of.

I know Vinyl gets used as siding. Why can't other plastics get used as other building materials? I.E. #6 into insulation? PET into structural components out of the sunlight? Etc.