Portal issues?

[EastTNVol6240]

Did you see Kentucky and SC play? I hope they’re running circles. We’d just idiots on a forum. I suspect the staff are chasing what we need. Truth be told you don’t want to be the team having to raid the portal. This means you’re in a bad place.

 

[Vol4gzus]

Portal issues sounds like a form of ED. There's probably a pill for that bro

only if your mind takes you there and apparently it did. You and the BOOM! guy with his showing White House getting blown up are two Oscar Mayer contestants for sure.

 

[Vol4gzus]

Did you see Kentucky and SC play? I hope they’re running circles. We’d just idiots on a forum. I suspect the staff are chasing what we need. Truth be told you don’t want to be the team having to raid the portal. This means you’re in a bad place.

This Head Coach and staff seek to fill needs for true openings or more depth. We're not at a dumpster sale thankfully. I had forgotten we are still under a scholly reduction at least this recruiting class. Not sure if over or more time must be served.

 

[sami]

It’s been very disappointing for sure that we haven’t been doing much or getting many players in the portal this year and our recruiting class which at one time was ranked 7 has dropped to 14. Kentucky and Souh Carolina and Ole Miss are running circles around us right now in the portal.

You think that might have something to do with the lack of recruiting and more portal exits than we have here? USCjr is a mess, and Stoops is scrambling to fill holes from departing players, which tells me his depth will once again be poor. My guess is that Beamer won't find a WR close to what he's losing in Wells. Lane is a different deal, and will probably be a portal raider most seasons like Sanders.

 

[jcvols24]

only if your mind takes you there and apparently it did. You and the BOOM! guy with his showing White House getting blown up are two Oscar Mayer contestants for sure.

What's your problem with the white house boom gif? Were you spanked as a child during the Independence Day movie? It's commonly used in the recruiting forum for big commits and never saw anyone complain about it before.

 

[OrangeTsar]

What issues?

So far 10 have gone into the portal from UT. Which should we have kept?

The UT staff was clearly concentrating on keeping players they value rather than churning the roster. Should we recruit Mays or go take a chance in the portal? You think USCe will go into the portal and get a better WR than Wells?

This ^
We pretty much kept the players we needed. The very fact that so many good players chose NOT to enter the portal might just be the clearest sign yet that Heupel is doing something right. Players clearly want to play for the man. They see how he develops players and they appreciate his honesty and loyalty. The way he stuck with Milton gets noticed by the players

 

[bigorangepoppa]

It’s a whole new game with NIL. There’s definitely a cap to how much we can give to a single player. Spreading that around the roster is gonna be tough. I don’t think I’m going to like where this goes but it’s not going to go away, dealing with unconstrained “free-agency” every off-season is the new norm

Speaking of NIL, what happens if the Supreme Court rules that universities have to pay the players? Does NIL go away, or does that just go hand in hand with paying them? What happens in that era, how can the players get NIL and a salary from the school they play for? Is this the beginning of the end for college athletics? Just some random ?'s that ran through my mind.

 

[VOLociraptorr]

only if your mind takes you there and apparently it did. You and the BOOM! guy with his showing White House getting blown up are two Oscar Mayer contestants for sure.

On a scale of 1-10 at parties, I bet you're a solid 4

 

[Vol4gzus]

What's your problem with the white house boom gif? Were you spanked as a child during the Independence Day movie? It's commonly used in the recruiting forum for big commits and never saw anyone complain about it before.

seen lots of booms for recruits. Never one of White House exploding. You think its OK then so be it. Thats our capital of our nation. Just think in poor taste though I'm sure the user of it probably didn't have it in mind. You think White House exploding is cool so be it. Just may show how little respect we have for it these days. The fact that posting that didn't even possibly draw a pause speaks potential volumes of what is ok now. Some may just flush 9-11 from their mindsets. That's my problem with it sir. Wasn't a small child when the movie came out or the one that this GIF was from if not the same. So no Lee Greenwood singing God Bless the USA as would kinda contradict bombing White House as ok. We move on as I think I'm probably in the silent majority of those who were/are offended by inclusion of the post.

 

[Vol4gzus]

On a scale of 1-10 at parties, I bet you're a solid 4

Probably wouldn't find ourselves at same type of parties. Actually circles I run in tell me they were glad my bride and I came. Your agreeing with the ED innuendo gives a snapshot of what some think was/is cute versus just not going there into sordid tastelessness. Best book ever written very clear on "coarse jesting."

 

[Dougie_D]

I see so many going in and I understand that doesn’t mean they are leaving, but I don’t really see any coming in.

I see SC seemingly adding left and right and they are an absolute train wreck and then Missouri is the flavor of the moment, but there is no history there to think that it won’t turn around the other way in the near future.

There’s less substitution in football and especially on the offensive side for our style of play.

 

[17Vols]

Speaking of NIL, what happens if the Supreme Court rules that universities have to pay the players? Does NIL go away, or does that just go hand in hand with paying them? What happens in that era, how can the players get NIL and a salary from the school they play for? Is this the beginning of the end for college athletics? Just some random ?'s that ran through my mind.

Technically, NIL doesn’t come from the school, it’s between the player and whatever entity agrees to pay for their name, image, or likeness in order to represent or market their product or business. As far as schools paying players, that’s probably going to happen, my question would be this, could that agreement include a minimum period of time a player would be required to remain with that school? Something like a 3-4 year contract for example. And how would that even be enforceable. Players graduate early, declare early, so many moving parts it’s crazy!
Honestly, I don’t know why anyone would want to be a college level coach!

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Speaking of NIL, what happens if the Supreme Court rules that universities have to pay the players? Does NIL go away, or does that just go hand in hand with paying them? What happens in that era, how can the players get NIL and a salary from the school they play for? Is this the beginning of the end for college athletics? Just some random ?'s that ran through my mind.

Just like pros like the Kelce brothers doing all kinds of NIL commercials, yes.

Aside from the use of their team logos, which the NFL can control, those two guys seem to be all over TV. Those are NIL deals.

 

[uncle chewii]

SCjr is trying to salvage their program. Beamer ain’t panning out too well. Every year with them it’s like putting a clean sock on a dirty foot

Which is the sock and which is the foot. They both dirty imo. Better analogy may be washing a dirty car with muddy water.

 

[Lars]

I am sorry to see Slaughter leaving and wonder why he would leave Tennessee for Arkansas.
MSN

 

[K87vol]

Anyone hearing reports on three of the Bammer refs hitting the portal?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Umm Wtf? Barron and McDonald going to Ole Miss ?

 

[volfanhill]

I am sorry to see Slaughter leaving and wonder why he would leave Tennessee for Arkansas.
MSN

 

[bigorangepoppa]

Just like pros like the Kelce brothers doing all kinds of NIL commercials, yes.

Aside from the use of their team logos, which the NFL can control, those two guys seem to be all over TV. Those are NIL deals.

You're right about those being NIL deals for the Kelce Brothers, but they also have contracts with the Chiefs and Eagles that pay them according to the terms of their contracts. Their contracts are a result of their play on the field and the value the teams place on them.

My question is concerning paying players along with NIL deals. The Supreme Court is probably going to rule for the athletes, giving them employee status. So how will that work? NIL already makes it a matter of who gives them the best offer, and employee status means they can negotiate with the schools that are recruiting them for the best deal.

So how is that gonna affect college athletics? Some teams will get the best players because they can afford them, while others will get the players left over. What are your (collective) thoughts?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

You're right about those being NIL deals for the Kelce Brothers, but they also have contracts with the Chiefs and Eagles that pay them according to the terms of their contracts. Their contracts are a result of their play on the field and the value the teams place on them.

My question is concerning paying players along with NIL deals. The Supreme Court is probably going to rule for the athletes, giving them employee status. So how will that work? NIL already makes it a matter of who gives them the best offer, and employee status means they can negotiate with the schools that are recruiting them for the best deal.

So how is that gonna affect college athletics? Some teams will get the best players because they can afford them, while others will get the players left over. What are your (collective) thoughts?

NIL deals will still be there. They're legally not going anywhere, nor will schools or the NCAA restrict them beyond morality, embarrassment to the league clauses like the pros.

Salaries will be via collective bargaining with a players union, most likely. This is what will suck because schools will NEVER be able to pay the volleyball team, lacrosse team, etc but it will be difficult to say "these athletes are employees, but those athletes aren't" at the schools.

Schools will either get out of athletics or at least drop a lot of sports to lower the payroll. Some smaller schools will never be able to pay players and unless the courts somehow "draw a line around the revenue schools," lots of athletes in D2 and D3 won't have the chance to compete.

That's why this is a big, big deal. It's a terrible mess and I'm unsure anything can prevent college athletics from being completely destroyed.

 

[aRmo]

UT is focused on getting the senior lineman to return with NIL monies. That has been a major focus and seems to be working. They have also been working on TE and DBs from the portal. Those will happen but you're not going to see massive additions from the portal.

Why not WR? Our WR core wasnt very good this year.

 

[LWSVOL]

Why not WR? Our WR core wasnt very good this year.

they would take one if it was a good fit. Having to manage numbers closely right now. They are close to the max with signing day coming up and still working portal... They are looking at the Tulane WR and would take him if he wants to come..

 

[bigorangepoppa]

NIL deals will still be there. They're legally not going anywhere, nor will schools or the NCAA restrict them beyond morality, embarrassment to the league clauses like the pros.

Salaries will be via collective bargaining with a players union, most likely. This is what will suck because schools will NEVER be able to pay the volleyball team, lacrosse team, etc but it will be difficult to say "these athletes are employees, but those athletes aren't" at the schools.

Schools will either get out of athletics or at least drop a lot of sports to lower the payroll. Some smaller schools will never be able to pay players and unless the courts somehow "draw a line around the revenue schools," lots of athletes in D2 and D3 won't have the chance to compete.

That's why this is a big, big deal. It's a terrible mess and I'm unsure anything can prevent college athletics from being completely destroyed.

Unfortunately, you and I are in agreement on this. That was my whole reason for asking the question. I don't see how this won't destroy college athletics. The sad part for me is that these athletes know as they are growing up and improving their skills, that their athletic abilities are what is paying for their education. Not to mention how much they will make as a professional athlete.

I guess the universities can argue that, basically, they are being paid, via athletic scholarships, free meals, physical strength training, and all the other benefits that the average student doesn't get.

 

[VolFanNC09]

With the players we are keeping and the incoming players, I am not sure how active we need to be. If we see a true Day 1 starter at any position, sure lets get them. Right now it would be good to get another CB, maybe another TE, another WR. We could use depth on OL, but I think we are pretty set. Maybe another DE, but I think we are set with that position too.

I think we really want another CB, but for the rest we can be picky. Its hard for me to see someone come in as a day 1 starter with the returning players we have outside of a CB.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Did someone say portal?