'25 Portal Thread

[MarcoVol]

Apparently, Ohio State does.

Well that’s 1

 

[TrippieRedd]

I’ll drop this here for y’all

 

[Weezer]

Well that’s 1

Haven't looked at the rest of their games, but Georgia's OL was solid against us.

 

[Weezer]

I’ll drop this here for y’all

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I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[IMissTheMidRangeGame]

OSU vs Vols: 4 sacks, 6 TFLs

OSU vs Oregon: 8 sacks, 13 TFLs

OSU vs TX: 4 sacks, 9 TFLs

Does anybody have a good OL coach?

Our OL performed better than Texa$ and Oregon’s $20+ million rosters and we played at their house. Hmmmmm

 

[Jimmy Football]

I’ll drop this here for y’all

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Are we taking Ohio’s Tate?

 

[MarcoVol]

Haven't looked at the rest of their games, but Georgia's OL was solid against us.

ND had 4 sacks, 9 TFLs vs them. Need to do it against the best teams to be considered good, right? Might not be your argument but I see it here often.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

I am all for Inniss if the coaches want him. When a WR ...especially a 5* WR...ONLY returns kicks and punts though it automatically worries me that they're like CP and arent capable of learning the playbook mentally. Which means they'll never play WR at UT.

I understand that OSU is a special case though and he might not get to play due to having Tate and the 2 starters in front of him. Thats kinda possible...BUT...your #4 WR gets lots of reps normally. Your #5 and #6 WR get plenty of reps...because there are 3 WR spots so thats just being a backup to the 3 starters. So is he the 7th or 8th best WR at OSU as a sophomore? Or is he just not smart enough to learn a playbook? I have no idea. Would like to have him either way though if the coaches want him and think he can contribute

When has any Vol fan cared about anyone learning the playbook. All i heard is MM should be starting. That's all I heard.

 

[dmwvol12]

Apparently, Ohio State does.

Weezer, you need a snickers. Where has our lovable abominable snowman gone? I am beginning to think someone has hacked your account? We qualified for the playoffs. We got beat by an NFL team at their home stadium. That team has since beaten Oregon and Texas on a neutral field. We led the SEC in rushing. There is a lot to be thankful for. Glass half empty is also half full. Discussions are great but something has changed in the tone. Not trying to be a jerk but let’s face it things are pretty good and only one team will win the championship.

 

[landscapingvol]

Our OL performed better than Texa$ and Oregon’s $20+ million rosters and we played at their house. Hmmmmm

Texas was in the game until the last drive; the Oregon game was over after the first quarter. Our game was over after the first drive of the third quarter, so no we didn’t out perform Texas but absolutely Oregon. I was more concerned with our defense vs Ohio State than our oline. We didn’t really stop them the entire game

 

[GVol1966]

Yeah, just 2 of the highest blue chip teams in the entire country. Most OLs had that issue against them.

Top 10 OL 3 straight years means objectively they’re pretty good. I thought that’s what ya asked for?

Yeah but do the people that give that award actually watch the O lines play or just look at stats?

We rack up stats against UTC, UTEp , Kent st and other weak teams.

How good we actually are is proven against
Above average teams.

 

[deatojl]

Texas was in the game until the last drive; the Oregon game was over after the first quarter. Our game was over after the first drive of the third quarter, so no we didn’t out perform Texas but absolutely Oregon. I was more concerned with our defense vs Ohio State than our oline. We didn’t really stop them the entire game

Well, we did have them stopped on a 3 and out their first drive until Simmons grabbed Howard's facemask. Then, about three plays later, we were down 7-0. I think that set the tone early, particularly after our offense did nothing their first possession and Ohio St hit us again for a quick TD. I don't know how much of a difference it would have made but it would have been nice to see how it would have played out if we don't give them that first down on the facemask penalty.

 

[deatojl]

Yeah but do the people that give that award actually watch the O lines play or just look at stats?

We rack up stats against UTC, UTEp , Kent st and other weak teams.

How good we actually are is proven against
Above average teams.

Well Cole Cubelic, who is the Joe Moore voting committee chairman, does a pretty in depth breakdown every week of SEC teams' performance.

 

[landscapingvol]

Well, we did have them stopped on a 3 and out their first drive until Simmons grabbed Howard's facemask. Then, about three plays later, we were down 7-0. I think that set the tone early, particularly after our offense did nothing their first possession and Ohio St hit us again for a quick TD. I don't know how much of a difference it would have made but it would have been nice to see how it would have played out if we don't give them that first down on the facemask penalty.

Agreed it would be nice to know how that could have changed the course of the game

 

[Vol423]

I’ll drop this here for y’all

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Thanks for all the context around that. Where is it from? What is it in response to? That could literally mean anything. It could be in response to the question, "Who was the Ohio State WR that dropped the easy, sure-fire TD in last night's game?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I doubt Heupel is reading VN for advice, so it should still be okay for us to express our opinions.

Ya,
That’s what I just did dufuss

 

[knoxvol52]

Thanks for all the context around that. Where is it from? What is it in response to? That could literally mean anything. It could be in response to the question, "Who was the Ohio State WR that dropped the easy, sure-fire TD in last night's game?

Yes.

 

[Vol423]

Yes.

Nice try, but I intentionally didn't ask any yes or no questions.

 

[Weezer]

Weezer, you need a snickers. Where has our lovable abominable snowman gone? I am beginning to think someone has hacked your account? We qualified for the playoffs. We got beat by an NFL team at their home stadium. That team has since beaten Oregon and Texas on a neutral field. We led the SEC in rushing. There is a lot to be thankful for. Glass half empty is also half full. Discussions are great but something has changed in the tone. Not trying to be a jerk but let’s face it things are pretty good and only one team will win the championship.

Things are good, but the discussion is how to make it better. The goal is to win championships. My honest opinion is we should replace Pope and Elarbee. I just haven't seen the development of their players. And I also think there's a better than average chance we miss the playoffs next season due to our overall inexperience. We lose a lot from this team IMO. But, it's not like I'm screaming for Heupel's head. I think next season is just part of the natural progression. But in no way are we stacking classes like OSU, or Georgia, or Bama. Until we get to a point where we're stacking talent, you can't expect to be in the playoffs every year. So you build toward that. I don't think that's being negative. I think that's realistic.

 

[dmwvol12]

Things are good, but the discussion is how to make it better. The goal is to win championships. My honest opinion is we should replace Pope and Elarbee. I just haven't seen the development of their players. And I also think there's a better than average chance we miss the playoffs next season due to our overall inexperience. We lose a lot from this team IMO. But, it's not like I'm screaming for Heupel's head. I think next season is just part of the natural progression. But in no way are we stacking classes like OSU, or Georgia, or Bama. Until we get to a point where we're stacking talent, you can't expect to be in the playoffs every year. So you build toward that. I don't think that's being negative. I think that's realistic.

Good deal just wondering if the extreme negativity was getting to you. I agree expecting playoffs every year is a fools errand and just setting yourself up for disappointment. However, I do think that’s got to be the goal or you will lose the locker room. I liked what coach Caldwell said yesterday about the seniors on this year’s team being her players and she wanted to see them be successful. I suppose Heupel has a similar mindset. I think it’s hard to know if a position coach is doing their job well or not. I personally get the concern with Pope but don’t really understand all the hate for Ellarbee. Our OL, while not the best has been in the top of the SEC during his tenure. Also the highly rated guys are all very young. I also really believe in stability and am not a fan of there’s always a better coach on the shelf somewhere. When head coaches start firing a bunch of coaches it’s usually about to fall apart. Anyway, thanks for the balanced response and not going scorched earth on me.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yeah but do the people that give that award actually watch the O lines play or just look at stats?

We rack up stats against UTC, UTEp , Kent st and other weak teams.

How good we actually are is proven against
Above average teams.

The thing about stats is that everyone played weak teams, and those figure into their stats as well. Not every team played in the SEC. Not every team led the SEC in rushing. I'd say most of the teams in the SEC are above average, and we played more of them than we did weak teams.

 

[MarcoVol]

The thing about stats is that everyone played weak teams, and those figure into their stats as well. Not every team played in the SEC. Not every team led the SEC in rushing. I'd say most of the teams in the SEC are above average, and we played more of them than we did weak teams.

No no don’t you know the Vols are the only team that played weak opponents.

We didn’t accumulate our stats vs the powerhouses of Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Michigan State, Purdue, NW, etc

 

[Orange_Crush]

You don’t think losing pretty one sided to the two best teams we played against is cause for concern considering we lost our best olineman, wide receiver, and running back from said team? We looked pretty inept offensively against both teams and those are the programs we are hoping to compete against, correct? If we are just content with making the playoffs or competing to make them, then great I am ok with that but if the target is a NC then we have areas of concern. Personally, I believe we had a great season but I believe the target should be a NC imho

See my recent post about where we've come from.

Posts like this and others read like someone who was in an almost fatal car crash complaining about the staff that saved them because the stitches itch during the healing PROCESS.

Pretty much every single VN posting member was on here four years ago, posting suicidal and wondering if we'd EVER even be relevant again. We just won 30 games over three seasons and played in the NCAAF playoffs.

Anyone with half sense would look at where we were and where we are, and answer, "Yah. For this moment in time. I'm fine with where we are."

And further, considering the staff that resurrected the program FAR sooner than any of us would have dreamed to hope for, we should probably just say, "Yah, we have areas to improve, but I trust the staff to do what we need to do."

 

[SugarCC]

He's been an integral part of their offense. Unless coaches are bailing, I seriously doubt it's Tate.

Before last night, he had caught 2 passes for 28 yards in the playoffs.

 

[Weezer]

Before last night, he had caught 2 passes for 28 yards in the playoffs.

Didn't someone post season stats earlier that showed he had more receptions this season as their #3 WR than any of our WRs? And next year he'll probably be their #2.