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[BowlBrother85]

Should you be condemned for spreading lies? He does have a brother.

The statement released by Brad Raffensperger's office was worded a little strange and several publications misinterpreted what it was saying but the point is the same: Brad Raffensperger is not related to Ron Raffensperger, who works as an executive for a Chinese tech firm. Trump's tweet is still an outright lie.

 

[tnmarktx]

*than you. I read at a 5th grade level.

Let me know when you find Trump's retraction.

I could care less if he retracts or not. If you do, feel free to stalk his twitter feed. Do your research, stop spreading fake news, work on your TDS.

 

[tnmarktx]

The statement released by Brad Raffensperger's office was worded a little strange and several publications misinterpreted what it was saying but the point is the same: Brad Raffensperger is not related to Ron Raffensperger, who works as an executive for a Chinese tech firm. Trump's tweet is still an outright lie.

So was his statement.

 

[WBO]

Somebody got bent out of shape earlier when I suggested Dominion was making a mistake by opening this up in court. Everybody else has done a bang up job of seeing that the allegations never saw the inside of a courtroom. It has the makings of winning, suing the hecklers, and then getting your butt kicked in court by the hecklers. Common sense would dictate that Dominion just walk away without comment.

You guys are just scared that like everything else you've claimed about the election it will be proven in open court to be BS. You've lost 59 out of 60 legal decisions to date. The only one that they won was a request to Alito to order that ballots be preserved in Pennsylvania. Even then no improprieties were found. I'm guessing you missed where both Fox and Newsmax have run their "correction" interview.

All those experts have been proven to be conmen or just self-promoters like Giuliani, an old man trying to stay relevant when he can't even keep from passing gas during a pretend hearing.

I can't wait for the depositions and interrogatories to start going down.

As far as those videos are concerned, someone could take a home video of you and get it modified to show you having sex with Trump. Go check out 4chan or 8kun if you don't believe that.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So was his statement.

I think most people can understand the difference between misunderstanding a press release and simply making something up.

 

[tnmarktx]

I think most people can understand the difference between misunderstanding a press release and simply making something up.

What a complete and utter hypocrite. Obviously he saw that being reported and fell for it. A lie is a lie pure and simple. I could personally give a **** about either lie. However, the hypocrisy of some of you are so egregious that something needs to be said.

 

[clarksvol00]

I could care less if he retracts or not. If you do, feel free to stalk his twitter feed. Do your research, stop spreading fake news, work on your TDS.

You don't understand the difference between Trump, who will say anything regardless of its truth and never back down in the face of facts, and someone who will actually admit that they got something wrong. Talk about derangement...

 

[tnmarktx]

You don't understand the difference between Trump, who will say anything regardless of its truth and never back down in the face of facts, and someone who will actually admit that they got something wrong. Talk about derangement...

Thanks for making my point about your Trump derangement syndrome. Please keep raging on.

 

[clarksvol00]

Thanks for making my point about your Trump derangement syndrome. Please keep raging on.

Will do. Like I said, I owned my mistake. Let me know if Trump does or if you ever understand the distinction.

 

[tnmarktx]

Will do. Like I said, I owned my mistake. Let me know if Trump does or if you ever understand the distinction.

I understand perfectly. You both made posts based on reading false information on the internet. It is what it is.

 

[RavinDave]

I tend to agree; I'm just not certain it will be a gop sweep. I kept saying on election night Trump was going to lose GA; I may be surprised, but I expect the trend to continue with the runoff because I don't trust the process GA is using.

That is how I see it as well. Hope I turn out to be wrong, it would be nice to be wrong for a change lol.

 

[RavinDave]

I think we need to takea good, long look at the last few decades of voting issues, wipe the laws, and start from scratch. Free and fair elections do not include gerrymandering or suppression techniques. Nor do they include avenues that allow for other types of fraud including identity fraud and misrepresentation of self.

We're trying to operate in the 21st century like a Hatfield vs McCoy moonshine territory war instead of a mature sovereign nation. Both parties piss me off.

One of my Dad's grandfather's cousins was a victim of that Hatfield-McCoy business.

 

[AM64]

You guys are just scared that like everything else you've claimed about the election it will be proven in open court to be BS. You've lost 59 out of 60 legal decisions to date. The only one that they won was a request to Alito to order that ballots be preserved in Pennsylvania. Even then no improprieties were found. I'm guessing you missed where both Fox and Newsmax have run their "correction" interview.

All those experts have been proven to be conmen or just self-promoters like Giuliani, an old man trying to stay relevant when he can't even keep from passing gas during a pretend hearing.

I can't wait for the depositions and interrogatories to start going down.

As far as those videos are concerned, someone could take a home video of you and get it modified to show you having sex with Trump. Go check out 4chan or 8kun if you don't believe that.

I haven't lost anything in court regarding this election, and I don't suppose anyone else here has either. However, if allegations of wrongdoing (either intentional or by poorly designed processes) aren't investigated, then we have all lost something - the right to credible elections. After listening to some of the testimony in the GA Senate meeting, I'm even more amazed at how allegations have been ignored. If you've ever read my comments about Giuliani, you'd note I have no use for him in any capacity - should have been put out to pasture years ago.

To say that people working in the election process and the witnesses (who basically couldn't witness much this go around) are conmen or self promoters since they prepared many of the allegations is problematic. You are either accusing those people of bias, or you are accusing the people overseeing elections of poor judgement in selecting them. Neither is good.

The mail in ballot security was poor - criminally poor. There's no real verification that the person supposedly casting a vote actually received the ballot, made the selections, or sent the ballot back. The in person voting system used in GA where the voter uses a touch screen and the system prints out a receipt to be scanned is absurd - at best a gimmick to sell equipment. I do believe the first comments about faulty equipment and the inability to repeat results - doesn't say much when we use the old adage "every vote counts" and they couldn't get tallies anywhere near one vote. Nothing about any of that passes the smell test. It's just that simple.

 

[AM64]

One of my Dad's grandfather's cousins was a victim of that Hatfield-McCoy business.

Not on the Sicilian side I presume.

 

[VolinWayne]

I didn't see where that was even alleged in the article you linked. This looks to be the same video we were discussing previously. AJC provided an explanation here:

"Election workers had put uncounted absentee ballots in ballot containers when they thought they were going home for the night around 10 p.m. on Nov. 3, said Gabriel Sterling, the state’s voting system manager.

Then a Fulton County elections official told poll watchers and media that ballot counting was done for the night after a long day of work. No one was forced to leave, said Richard Barron, the county’s elections director.

Ballot counting resumed soon afterward when the secretary of state’s office asked Fulton to keep working, Sterling said. Video shows the elections manager taking a phone call and informing staff that their work wasn’t done. Though poll watchers were gone, the process was recorded, and a monitor from the secretary of state’s office arrived about an hour later.

Election workers unpacked absentee ballots from their containers, which were ballot storage containers, not “suitcases.” Then they resumed counting until about 1 a.m.

The chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office told Channel 2 Action News she saw no evidence of wrongdoing."

You see not problem with them running the same exact batch of ballots 3 times in a row??

 

[VolinWayne]

That was from a month ago. Why aren't any of these "bombshell allegations" ever made in court? Could it be that this is just a political exercise? You cannot escape the disconnect between what Trump's legal representation is willing to allege while on cable news and in front of fellow Republicans in one of these "hearings", versus what they will allege while standing before a Justice in a court of law, where there can be ramifications for their law licenses, if they are caught lying or misrepresenting "evidence".

I think the obvious answer is the courts are corrupt. They are not even looking at the evidence!! For what it's worth Stacy Abrams sister was the judge that blocked the Ga Voter elegibility Challenge.

 

[RavinDave]

Not on the Sicilian side I presume.

Correct.

 

[Wafflestomper]

You see not problem with them running the same exact batch of ballots 3 times in a row??

No, I didn't see them do that and I didn't see where anyone but you said that.

 

[clarksvol00]

I understand perfectly. You both made posts based on reading false information on the internet. It is what it is.

Ok. Let me know if Trump ever acknowledges his error and I'll admit we're the same.

 

[VolinWayne]

No, I didn't see them do that and I didn't see where anyone but you said that.

It might help if you watch the video

Edit; not sure if its in the video that was attached and I apologize if it's not in a compressed video (I assumed it was) but a key point that was shown today was a segment of the video where to poll workers very clearly ran the same exact batches through the tabulation machine 3 times in a row.

 

[VolinWayne]

GA Voter Fraud Hearing Successfully Pressures Legislators to Audit Ballots | USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

 

[BowlBrother85]

What a complete and utter hypocrite. Obviously he saw that being reported and fell for it. A lie is a lie pure and simple. I could personally give a **** about either lie. However, the hypocrisy of some of you are so egregious that something needs to be said.

It wasn't a lie. By definition, a lie isn't simply saying something which is inaccurate. A lie involves an intent to deceive. That is not what this was. In this case, a poster saw multiple reports that Brad Raffensperger didn't actually have a brother, and it was posted here. There was no reason to "lie". Whether or not Brad Raffensperger had a brother was not germane to whether or not that brother worked for a Chinese tech firm, as Trump had claimed.

LIE : VERB ... An assertion that is believed to be false, typically used with the purpose of deceiving someone.

 

[BowlBrother85]

GA Voter Fraud Hearing Successfully Pressures Legislators to Audit Ballots | USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

What are you going to do when that audit doesn't result in a change in the outcome? Let the fraud narrative go? Nah, I didn't think so. The goal posts will be moved yet again.... all the way to the parking lot next time.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I think the obvious answer is the courts are corrupt. They are not even looking at the evidence!! For what it's worth Stacy Abrams sister was the judge that blocked the Ga Voter elegibility Challenge.

That is wrong. Justice Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wanted to hear the evidence. He wanted Trump's legal representation to call witnesses and present their case. All they did was hand over unsubstantiated anecdotal accounts... which Bibas determined to be mere speculation, unsupported by the presentation of facts. When rendering his decision, Bibas said that Trump's legal representation had failed on the merits of their case. It's absurd to dismiss that as bias. Bibas is a conservative, who was appointed by Trump.

 

[AM64]

GA Voter Fraud Hearing Successfully Pressures Legislators to Audit Ballots | USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

That was interesting. I don't think I'm completely sold on Pulitzer's argument about the misalignment issue; but if that percentage of ballots required adjudication, then there's definitely something wrong. If you can demonstrate that republican districts got one kind of ballot and democratic another, then there's reason to question - or if one was people generated and the other was machine reproduced, but how would you know when the envelope supposedly proving provenance can't be put back with the ballot? My hang-up goes back to the QR code that the idiot voting system prints out. The voter selects on a touchscreen and the printer prints out a piece of paper with a QR code - who can read the QR code and know it is an honest representation of the voter preference?

One thing I completely agree with and said it some time ago is that the process including ballots, machines ... the whole rotten mess belongs to the people - not to the election commissions who have everything locked up like there is something to hide. Of course, as custodians they have the obligation to insure secure storage, but it's not their role to say "Nothing to see here, move on, we're not showing you anything or answering your silly questions." There are plenty of questions; but as he says, no one is getting close enough to the raw information to make any determinations.