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BowlBrother85 said:
It wasn't a lie. By definition, a lie isn't simply saying something which is inaccurate. A lie involves an intent to deceive. That is not what this was. In this case, a poster saw multiple reports that Brad Raffensperger didn't actually have a brother, and it was posted here. There was no reason to "lie". Whether or not Brad Raffensperger had a brother was not germane to whether or not that brother worked for a Chinese tech firm, as Trump had claimed.

LIE : VERB ... An assertion that is believed to be false, typically used with the purpose of deceiving someone.
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He had stated Trump had lied. The hypocrisy of it all is that they did the same thing. Read false information and made a post about it. If his assessment was that Trump lied, then he essentially lied as well. Suggesting anything different would be totally hypocritical.
 
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tnmarktx said:
He had stated Trump had lied. The hypocrisy of it all is that they did the same thing. Read false information and made a post about it. If his assessment was that Trump lied, then he essentially lied as well. Suggesting anything different would be totally hypocritical.
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At least I'm honest enough to admit I got one wrong. You'll never be honest enough to recognize the distinction.

Edit: I could take the portion that says Raffesnperger doesn't have a brother out of the post you responded to and it would still have the same meaning. Unfortunately, I doubt you can conceptualize that either.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
At least I'm honest enough to admit I got one wrong. You'll never be honest enough to recognize the distinction.

Edit: I could take the portion that says Raffesnperger doesn't have a brother out of the post you responded to and it would still have the same meaning. Unfortunately, I doubt you can conceptualize that either.
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There is no distinction. You'd have everyone believe that Trump was the source of said story. I'm sure he got suckered into a false story just like you did. Just like everyone has from time to time. You're just mad that you got called out on it.
 
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tnmarktx said:
He had stated Trump had lied. The hypocrisy of it all is that they did the same thing. Read false information and made a post about it. If his assessment was that Trump lied, then he essentially lied as well. Suggesting anything different would be totally hypocritical.
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The only places where Trump could have read that Ron Raffensperger was Brad Raffensperger's brother were social media and conspiracy laden sites such as Qanon. Trump didn't read that misinformation anywhere except where any reasonably intelligent person would expect to see fabricated conspiracy theories. There is a difference. He had to know that more likely than not, what he was disseminating on Twitter was not true... and yet, he tweeted that falsehood anyway.
 
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tnmarktx said:
There is no distinction. You'd have everyone believe that Trump was the source of said story. I'm sure he got suckered into a false story just like you did. Just like everyone has from time to time. You're just mad that you got called out on it.
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Not mad at all, but when I get it wrong, I'll admit it. Like I've said... if you think Trump and I are the same, point to where Trump admitted he got it wrong.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The only places where Trump could have read that Ron Raffensperger was Brad Raffensperger's brother were social media and conspiracy laden sites such as Qanon. Trump didn't read that misinformation anywhere except where any reasonably intelligent person would expect to see fabricated conspiracy theories. There is a difference. He had to know that more likely than not, what he was disseminating on Twitter was not true... and yet, he tweeted that falsehood anyway.
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Fake news is fake news.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Not mad at all, but when I get it wrong, I'll admit it. Like I've said... if you think Trump and I are the same, point to where Trump admitted he got it wrong.
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You're actually not the same. He's been president, it's probably safe to say you haven't. You both fell for some fake news today.
 
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tnmarktx said:
You're actually not the same. He's been president, it's probably safe to say you haven't. You both fell for some fake news today.
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Alright you win. Its perfectly acceptable to assert something as truth in the public forum when you have a major platform and not retract it when its demonstrably false. If you have kids, that will be a great lesson for you to teach them about honesty and responsibility. We seem to be going in circles on this so you are more than welcome to take the last word.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Alright you win. Its perfectly acceptable to assert something as truth in the public forum when you have a major platform and not retract it when its demonstrably false. If you have kids, that will be a great lesson for you to teach them about honesty and responsibility. We seem to be going in circles on this so you are more than welcome to take the last word.
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Says the guy that's been quoting me all night.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Fake news is fake news.
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"Fake news" is used to describe something reported which has no basis whatsoever in fact. It's pure fabrication from scratch. That was not the case here. It is a fact that Brad Raffensperger does not have a brother who works for the Chinese tech firm known as Huawei. One aspect of the initial reporting was that Brad Raffensperger didn't have a brother at all... but even with that being false, the premise of the reporting was factual. Ron Raffensperger is not related to Georgia's Secretary of State as Trump implied in a tweet.
 
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AM64 said:
I haven't lost anything in court regarding this election, and I don't suppose anyone else here has either. However, if allegations of wrongdoing (either intentional or by poorly designed processes) aren't investigated, then we have all lost something - the right to credible elections. After listening to some of the testimony in the GA Senate meeting, I'm even more amazed at how allegations have been ignored. If you've ever read my comments about Giuliani, you'd note I have no use for him in any capacity - should have been put out to pasture years ago.

To say that people working in the election process and the witnesses (who basically couldn't witness much this go around) are conmen or self promoters since they prepared many of the allegations is problematic. You are either accusing those people of bias, or you are accusing the people overseeing elections of poor judgement in selecting them. Neither is good.

The mail in ballot security was poor - criminally poor. There's no real verification that the person supposedly casting a vote actually received the ballot, made the selections, or sent the ballot back. The in person voting system used in GA where the voter uses a touch screen and the system prints out a receipt to be scanned is absurd - at best a gimmick to sell equipment. I do believe the first comments about faulty equipment and the inability to repeat results - doesn't say much when we use the old adage "every vote counts" and they couldn't get tallies anywhere near one vote. Nothing about any of that passes the smell test. It's just that simple.
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Where is your legitimate proof, not wacko conspiracy crap, at? Try winning in the courts, but you won't because all of your assertions are just made up.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
"Fake news" is used to describe something reported which has no basis whatsoever in fact. It's pure fabrication from scratch. That was not the case here. It is a fact that Brad Raffensperger does not have a brother who works for the Chinese tech firm known as Huawei. One aspect of the initial reporting was that Brad Raffensperger didn't have a brother at all... but even with that being false, the premise of the reporting was factual. Ron Raffensperger is not related to Georgia's Secretary of State as Trump implied in a tweet.
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Fake news is where he got it.
 
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Here is a picture of Sasquatch outside of Atlanta on November 2nd. China's PLA Tiger Kung Fu Team was also reported entering the Atlanta area on that same day. Why were Sasquatch and the PLA Tiger Team at the same place at the same time, the day before Election? Coincidence, I think not. What were they both doing there if not to steal the Election for Biden? How much evidence do you need?!
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tnmarktx said:
There is no distinction. You'd have everyone believe that Trump was the source of said story. I'm sure he got suckered into a false story just like you did. Just like everyone has from time to time. You're just mad that you got called out on it.
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Trump retweets whatever supports his narrative of the day, and that narrative is often false. He seems to be like committed Bolsheviks, who define truth as whatever serves their cause. As far as Trump is concerned, whatever comes along that serves his interest and purpose is the truth. He deliberately retweets misinformation. Is that lying? Unless the man is so psychotic and disconnected from reality that he is unable to distinguish fact from fabrication, yes, he is lying. The sorry truth is that he does not care that a lie is a lie, as long as it serves his interests.
 
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Vol Main said:
Trump retweets whatever supports his narrative of the day, and that narrative is often false. He seems to be like committed Bolsheviks, who define truth as whatever serves their cause. As far as Trump is concerned, whatever comes along that serves his interest and purpose is the truth. He deliberately retweets misinformation. Is that lying? Unless the man is so psychotic and disconnected from reality that he is unable to distinguish fact from fabrication, yes, he is lying. The sorry truth is that he does not care that a lie is a lie, as long as it serves his interests.
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TDS is strong in this one.
 
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1972 Grad said:
These people will never recover and let Trump go. He will live in their heads until they die.
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The flip side to that is that most Trumper's will never admit that Trump was a horrendously despicable human and a disaster as a president, but will cling to the bizarre fantasy that Trump was somehow actually making America great again.
 
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luthervol said:
The flip side to that is that most Trumper's will never admit that Trump was a horrendously despicable human and a disaster as a president, but will cling to the bizarre fantasy that Trump was somehow actually making America great again.
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We've had plenty to say about Trump twitting like a little girl and being inarticulate. We've also had plenty to say that in spite of all that and a poor record in finding good people to work with him, that Trump has actually made a lot of good decisions. Maybe he's a marketing con man and self promoter (isn't that generally what marketing is anyway), but again he's done more in four years to right a lot of stuff than politicians of 40 years and self promoters/agitators also know as community developers. Trump's problem in your eyes is that he didn't believe in your agenda, so you just pile on with the rest of the crap. When Biden and the Tramp take over, the sucking sound will be jobs on the way out and bad policy decisions ... and the money flow from your pockets.
 
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