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You keep repeating that false 160K dead number. Covid contributed to some % of those deaths. It was the listed CAUSE of only 6%.

It would be nice if CDC would release that data. They have collected it. They have FINALLY posted but not promoted tables on comorbidities. When you look at it... you see that these were very sick people. But the data likely doesn't fit the narrative that justifies all of the radical responses you are supporting... so if it is ever released... it won't be widely known.

They also have a habit of making data they don't "like" difficult to work with.

160k is not false just because it isn't what you would define it as. I'm aware that many of these people who have died have had preexisting conditions.

Just a question here, but since you are talking all about my narrative.

What exactly do I gain from promoting all this?

I lost my job, I can't see friends/family as much, I can't do some of the activities I like to do.

What is my insidious goal behind all this?

I promise you I'm yet to receive my Soros Check
 
It is good to build up an immunity to certain common germs yes. It is not good to just risk getting a new virus that we don't fully understand the ramifications of especially when the ramifications we do understand are 160k dead.

I can tell what you are by your insistence on repeating 160k.

You are part of the cave dwelling, I didnt have a life anyway feelz crowd.

People die, it sucks, but it happens. This virus has been very kind towards young people. It is literally advertising in a neon sign, proceed with your life.
 
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I can tell what you are by your insistence on repeating 160k.

You are part of the cave dwelling, I didnt have a life anyway feelz crowd.

People die, it sucks, but it happens. This virus has been very kind towards young people. It is literally advertising in a neon sign, proceed with your life.

Yeah I'm just a loser looking torpedo the lives of you winners lmfao.

You and your narrative may be proceeding with that sign. Healthcare officials, the virus, and I are not.
 
A big problem with that is that this virus isn't going anywhere, and the overwhelming majority of folks polled stated they would not take the vaccine. IMO, this virus will have a huge presence for several years until the masses trust and accept a vaccine. Spring or next Fall most likely will still see massive positive cases. Of course, I also believe that the "shut down the world mentality" will change in early November.
I will get the vaccine but not immediately but yea this virus isn’t going anywhere and unfortunately like the flu it won’t be seasonal and then we will have flare ups. This is a unbelievably infectious and tough virus and it may be 5 years before we get back to any kind of normalcy. This virus has forever changed the world and humanity.
 
Yeah I'm just a loser looking torpedo the lives of you winners lmfao.

You and your narrative may be proceeding with that sign. Healthcare officials, the virus, and I are not.

You dont know shat.

I've stated this on here before. I live amongst some of the top medical people in Knoxville. They literally let their kids play with mine anytime. I'd say their knowledge is greater than yours on the subject.
 
You dont know shat.

I've stated this on here before. I live amongst some of the top medical people in Knoxville. They literally let their kids play with mine anytime. I'd say their knowledge is greater than yours on the subject.

Oh I'm sure you do.
 
I will get the vaccine but not immediately but yea this virus isn’t going anywhere and unfortunately like the flu it won’t be seasonal and then we will have flare ups. This is a unbelievably infectious and tough virus and it may be 5 years before we get back to any kind of normalcy. This virus has forever changed the world and humanity.
5 years? Lol
 
You dont know shat.

I've stated this on here before. I live amongst some of the top medical people in Knoxville. They literally let their kids play with mine anytime. I'd say their knowledge is greater than yours on the subject.
If he actually heard the weekly meetings from local physicians and the health dept and the CDC and their actual beliefs, he probably wouldn’t be so gloom and doom
 
I will get the vaccine but not immediately but yea this virus isn’t going anywhere and unfortunately like the flu it won’t be seasonal and then we will have flare ups. This is a unbelievably infectious and tough virus and it may be 5 years before we get back to any kind of normalcy. This virus has forever changed the world and humanity.
As of right now, approximately .03% of the population have contracted the virus. Without a quality vaccine, one that people actually trust, the virus still has a ton of viable "hosts".
 
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As of right now, approximately .03% of the population have contracted the virus. Without a quality vaccine, one that people actually trust, the virus still has a ton of viable "hosts".

If we are talking US, that number is closer to 1.5% but your point is still valid.
 
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If we are talking US, that number is closer to 1.5% but your point is still valid.
True, I should have said that a very small portion of the population developed symptoms; you are correct that about 1.5% have contracted it.
 
The people in New York and New Jersey look at the south and say "don't those @sshats see what just happened to us?" Are they that freaking stupid? The stereotype of dumb country bumpkins is being solidly reinforced. Trust me I hear it every day.

Nobody wants to be cooped up at home. But there's people in the world with common sense and there's people who will kill other people with their ignorance and call it "their rights" LOL

Also, I build stuff for a living.

We didn’t jam elderly in nursing homes like NY and NJ. These bumpkins have taken care of the risky population better.

Don’t go drive anywhere. Other people’s ignorance may get you killed if they hit you.

Also I am in healthcare. When I’m not , not hiding from a virus. 😁
 
Again, you do not understand that different viruses react differently to vaccines. No vaccine is 100% effective in producing antibodies against any virus. DNA vaccines are the ones which have been used since the first polio vaccine back in the 50s. The vaccine against measles is more than 95% effective in preventing measles in infants and young adults. The efficy of Flu vaccine varies from year to year based upon which viruses are included in the vaccines and the Flu viruses which circulate each year. Vaccines do not provide protection against all viruses. We still do not have a vaccine against the AIDs virus. T cells are not able to protect any person from the virus. Fortunately, drug treatments have been developed to halt the progress of the disease, but not prevent or cure Aids. It is too early to determine if the vaccines being developed against the Covid-19 will prevent infection. It appears that it might, but one still does not know how long those antibodies will last if they are indeed produced by the vaccine or infection.
When it comes to AIDS, it is difficult again to create an antiviral against a virus that deactivates your immune system. Remember it requires a functioning immune system for antivirals to work. I grow tired of discussions with people that simply rehash their argument. I am tired if boring others. Bottom line, NO antiviral will be effective for those who have seriously insufficient immune systems, period. My end if the discussion is over. Continue to argue with yourself if you so desire.
 
Last word. The viruses do not directly react to the vaccine. You are thinking more along the lines of how a bacteria reacts to a antibiotic. An antibiotic actually kills the the bacteria. A virus is not alive. It is how the immune system reacts with either antibodies to deactivate or t- cells to attack. For goodness sake, the viral vaccine is actually some form of a deactivated or seriously weakened virus directly injected into the bloodstream for the immune system to react to.
Try getting a shot of penicillin for the flu and see how well it helps.[ First, viruses are alive. If they were not alive, how could they be killed or attenuated to make current vaccines. In those vaccine the body manufacture antibodies to attack and kill the invading viruses. Sometimes the body can make very effective antibodies and sometimes they do not. For a novel virus the body has never been exposed to the virus and it has no antibodies to fight the virus when the body is first exposed.

Viruses are not killed by antibiotics including penicillin. Some bacteria can be killed by different antibiotics, not all antibiotics kill all bacteria. There are no vaccines to prevent or kill of the Herpes viruses.
 
When it comes to AIDS, it is difficult again to create an antiviral against a virus that deactivates your immune system. Remember it requires a functioning immune system for antivirals to work. I grow tired of discussions with people that simply rehash their argument. I am tired if boring others. Bottom line, NO antiviral will be effective for those who have seriously insufficient immune systems, period. My end if the discussion is over. Continue to argue with yourself if you so desire.
Because of the AIDS outbreaks a lot of research was conducted to develop a vaccines and treatments to prevent and cure AIDS. No effective vaccine has yet been developed to prevent AIDs. However, treatments have been developed to treat and effectively keep the virus somewhat under control. A byproduct of all this research was the. Development of antivirals to treat Herpes Virus infections. These drugs are Acyclovir, Famclclovir, and Valacylovir. These do not cure Herpes but do shorten the disease course and makes the patient more comfortable. There are a number of people who are immunocompromised and those people are treated Gamma-globulin when exposed to Chicken Pox or a killed vaccine when appropriate. I do not have to argue with myself or other people who do not know the facts.
 
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I can tell what you are by your insistence on repeating 160k.

You are part of the cave dwelling, I didnt have a life anyway feelz crowd.

People die, it sucks, but it happens. This virus has been very kind towards young people. It is literally advertising in a neon sign, proceed with your life.
I heard lyin' biden say it was 150 million dead from chinavirus.
 
Risk of death to athletes is low. Their contraction, spread, and possible long term implication is much different.

Cases are going up because we have no leadership. We have some people following guidelines and others sayinf screw it. Other countries with coordinated efforts are handling it very well.

"The virus is going to virus." Equivalent to saying I dont really care what it does, we can't stop it. Totally untrue.

Shutting down is not ideal but its better than losing another hundred or two hundred thousand lives needlessly.

Cases went up during shutdowns. Cases went up with or without masks. It has nothing to do with leadership. If you think anyone has the capacity to control this thing then you are beyond help.
 
Cases went up during shutdowns. Cases went up with or without masks. It has nothing to do with leadership. If you think anyone has the capacity to control this thing then you are beyond help.

So what about Europe? Shutdowns fail there? Masks fail there?
 

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