Potential BCS antitrust case (merged)

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Body of work. If you aren't one of the top two teams at season's end, too bad.

Actually, if you are not the top ranked team in the nation, then you have left your destiny to exterior forces.
 
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therealUT said:
Body of work. If you aren't one of the top two teams at season's end, too bad.

Actually, if you are not the top ranked team in the nation, then you have left your destiny to exterior forces.
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2003 USC says the top team isn't excluded from that unknown destiny.
 
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That being said, the feds trying to get involved in this is laughable. I think they have their own problems to worry about.
 
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therealUT said:
Body of work. If you aren't one of the top two teams at season's end, too bad.

Actually, if you are not the top ranked team in the nation, then you have left your destiny to exterior forces.
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There needs to be a playoff to insure a true champion.

You could still use the bowl games. First rounds go to the lower tier bowls. So on so forth until you get to the BCS bowls. They would host the final 8 teams, rotating the Championship each year like they do now. The season wouldnt be any longer than it is now. Just not as many teams make the bracket as they do bowl games.
 
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CountVolcula said:
There needs to be a playoff to insure a true champion.

You could still use the bowl games. First rounds go to the lower tier bowls. So on so forth until you get to the BCS bowls. They would host the final 8 teams, rotating the Championship each year like they do now. The season wouldnt be any longer than it is now. Just not as many teams make the bracket as they do bowl games.
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Why eight teams? What are the arguments from five through eight if there was simply a four team playoff?

Tournaments no more ensure a "true champion" than the current system. Tournaments simply place a higher value on certain games (wins within the tournament) than other games (games within the season).
 
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I'm not really a fan of the BCS, but I'm much less of a fan of the government.

The government has stuck its nose where it doesn't belong far too often already.
 
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therealUT said:
Why eight teams? What are the arguments from five through eight if there was simply a four team playoff?

Tournaments no more ensure a "true champion" than the current system. Tournaments simply place a higher value on certain games (wins within the tournament) than other games (games within the season).
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Perfectly said.
 
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It is going to take someone super rich to say..."After the final bowl games, I will give the top 2 schools $30 million (pinky finger) each to play a one game showdown and winner gets a 10 mil bonus".

:rock:
 
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Personally, i think the DOJ has quite enough to worry about besides football. Holder should keep his mouth shut till the whole "gunrunner" situation is sorted out.
 
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therealUT said:
Why eight teams? What are the arguments from five through eight if there was simply a four team playoff?

Tournaments no more ensure a "true champion" than the current system. Tournaments simply place a higher value on certain games (wins within the tournament) than other games (games within the season).
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You would have more than eight teams. Only the final eight would play in the big four bowls.

Example:

32 teams would start the playoffs

Round 1: The first 16 games would go to the lower bowls like Liberty, Music City, etc

Round 2: The next 8 games go to the next tier of bowls like Capital One, Gator, Peach etc

Round 3: The next four games go to the lower 4 Elite bowls(Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta) by order. The bowl that hosted the previous championship game would drop to fourth, with the runner up moving to host the NC. The 3rd and 4th bowl would each host two of the 4 games.

Semi: This would go to the bowl that would host the NC in the next year

Final: The Elite bowl that is in current rotation to host NC game


Not really hard to understand and doesnt extend the season no longer than the bowls already do.
 
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Sorry, I like it. The fact that the NCAA is getting a letter they have to answer. And, I'm curious as to what their answer to the DOJ will be. Nothing may change, but I like the NCAA on the receiving end for a change.
 
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CountVolcula said:
You would have more than eight teams. Only the final eight would play in the big four bowls.

Example:

32 teams would start the playoffs

Round 1: The first 16 games would go to the lower bowls like Liberty, Music City, etc

Round 2: The next 8 games go to the next tier of bowls like Capital One, Gator, Peach etc

Round 3: The next four games go to the lower 4 Elite bowls(Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta) by order. The bowl that hosted the previous championship game would drop to fourth, with the runner up moving to host the NC. The 3rd and 4th bowl would each host two of the 4 games.

Semi: This would go to the bowl that would host the NC in the next year

Final: The Elite bowl that is in current rotation to host NC game


Not really hard to understand and doesnt extend the season no longer than the bowls already do.

Pretty simple if you have organizational skills
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Adding 6 games makes a ton of sense.
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CountVolcula said:
You would have more than eight teams. Only the final eight would play in the big four bowls.

Example:

32 teams would start the playoffs

Round 1: The first 16 games would go to the lower bowls like Liberty, Music City, etc

Round 2: The next 8 games go to the next tier of bowls like Capital One, Gator, Peach etc

Round 3: The next four games go to the lower 4 Elite bowls(Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta) by order. The bowl that hosted the previous championship game would drop to fourth, with the runner up moving to host the NC. The 3rd and 4th bowl would each host two of the 4 games.

Semi: This would go to the bowl that would host the NC in the next year

Final: The Elite bowl that is in current rotation to host NC game


Not really hard to understand and doesnt extend the season no longer than the bowls already do.
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This.

Why I hope the NCAA never even adds a plus one...
 
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JTrainDavis said:
Adding 6 games makes a ton of sense.
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You could make that argument

But we all know that there is too much money exchanging hands for the BCS to buckle under a letter from the DOJ.

The BCS will pull out the big guns to defend there position.

The question is whether the DOJ wil spend the time and money to defeat the monster that is the BCS.

IMO, the only thing that will kill the BCS is an outright boycott by schools and by fans
 
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I don't see that this is the DOJ's concern.

That said, if this is a catalyst to getting the entire system tossed onto the junk pile of history, why complain?
 
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I am pro-playoff, but the NCAA should respond with "None of your damn business". DOJ can find other ways to benefit JUSTICE in this country. If it wants to impact college football, start sniffing out these "handlers" and unlawful $$$ practices.
 
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CountVolcula said:
IMO, the only thing that will kill the BCS is an outright boycott by schools and by fans
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Thankfully that won't happen.

The BCS isn't the best thing, but there are far worse ways to determine a champion.


I do want a playoff, but only with 4 teams. The problem is there is no way it would stay that small.
 
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Here's a snippet from the article:
The Department of Justice sent a letter to NCAA president Mark Emmert this week seeking clarification on why college football doesn’t have a playoff in its largest division while noting there are “serious questions” about whether the Bowl Championship Series is violating federal anti-trust laws. It is a sign the DOJ is considering a groundbreaking anti-trust case against the embattled BCS, which already may face a similar suit from the state of Utah.
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Yahoo! Sports Article: Justice letter could signal big trouble for BCS - College Football - Rivals.com

ESPN.com Article: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6479279
 
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