Potential BCS antitrust case (merged)

#51
#51
Glad they have time to butt in on this , it's not like the economy sucks, the debt ceiling is laughable and gas, well they'll soon want your first born at the pump.

A +1 would pretty much be a 4 team playoff, that would suffice for now.
 
#54
#54
volroadwarrior said:
I want the playoffs as much as the next guy, but the Feds should keep their noses out of this. They are infringing on all of our rights, activities, lifestyles, and every aspect of our lives and this is just one more thing they should butt out of.
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trevols81 said:
Don't they have more important matters to deal with?
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lylsmorr said:
Why in the hell is the government involved in this?
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I bet Standard Oil, AT&T, and Microsoft all thought the same thing.
 
#55
#55
i would like to see a playoff... i am sure there is a way we can use a playoff system and still use the bowl games to play out the playoff. i am curious as to why or how the DOJ got envolved. anyone wanna bet that one of the teams that got "jipped" out of the championship game got some of this started??
 
#56
#56
The BCS may violate the U.S. Antitrust laws. If this is true, and it very well may, because they exclude certain colleges from having a shot at the title, then the DOJ has every right to investigate the NCAA and the BCS system.
 
#57
#57
volroadwarrior said:
I want the playoffs as much as the next guy, but the Feds should keep their noses out of this. They are infringing on all of our rights, activities, lifestyles, and every aspect of our lives and this is just one more thing they should butt out of.
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Exactly. When they start jackin with our College Football, that's when I get mad
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Orangesmokey said:
i am curious as to why or how the DOJ got envolved. anyone wanna bet that one of the teams that got "jipped" out of the championship game got some of this started??
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That's kinda how antitrust works.

One party feels like they're getting harmed, paying too much, not getting the best products, etc - in other words, they feel like they "got jipped" - because another party has a monopoly, has cut them out of the marketplace, kept them from competing, etc.
 
#61
#61
Regardless of what type of system that will be put in place, it won't be fair! What if we had 16 teams in a play off scenerio and U.T. was # 17? What if we had a better strength of schedule than Boise State and Bosie State got in but we didn't? We would cry that it was not fair.
If you had 16 teams ,then team #17 would cry that it was not fair. If you had 8 teams, then team # 9 would cry that it was not fair.
It will never be totally fair! People just want change for the sake of change and that is it!
 
#62
#62
All of the people complaining about the government getting involved must not know what the DOJ does.

It doesn't take much resources for the DOJ to address this issue and this is exactly the type of thing that they should be looking into. Just because it relates to football does not mean that the anti-trust angle is not as important as it would be with any other entity.
 
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BigOrangeArsenal said:
More Bowls = More money! I think they should somehow keep the bowls while incorporating a 8-team playoff. I also think they are probably going to have to keep some form of a BCS/opinion-based poll in order to distinguish the top 8 seeds in the playoff.
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For who? The bowl directors?
Schools who play in the bowl games should not lose money, but they regularly do.
I am ready to destroy the entire system and start over.
 
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CountVolcula said:
The BCS may violate the U.S. Antitrust laws. If this is true, and it very well may, because they exclude certain colleges from having a shot at the title, then the DOJ has every right to investigate the NCAA and the BCS system.
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Yeah, there's nothing more important for them to focus on, anyway.
 
#66
#66
The Pac-10 just signed a 12 year, $3.7 billion bowl deal. No way is a playoff system near.
 
#67
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gainesvol82 said:
All of the people complaining about the government getting involved must not know what the DOJ does.

It doesn't take much resources for the DOJ to address this issue and this is exactly the type of thing that they should be looking into. Just because it relates to football does not mean that the anti-trust angle is not as important as it would be with any other entity.
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Bingo.

The playing field is not level for all eligible programs. Constitutional, business, federal regs/laws all apply. Many of the schools involved receive government funding on the state and federal level as well. A playoff system complies and the bowls can all still exist and do well in that environment. This is and has always been about power and greed. It is a huge industry and cannot escape the reach of the law of the land.

In addition, the polls all indicate the majority of the public wants a playoff system. Don't think for one second President Obama doesn't know that as we head toward 2012. Don't think for one second that Atty Gen. Holder doesn't want to please his boss.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Regardless of what type of system that will be put in place, it won't be fair! What if we had 16 teams in a play off scenerio and U.T. was # 17? What if we had a better strength of schedule than Boise State and Bosie State got in but we didn't? We would cry that it was not fair.
If you had 16 teams ,then team #17 would cry that it was not fair. If you had 8 teams, then team # 9 would cry that it was not fair.
It will never be totally fair! People just want change for the sake of change and that is it!
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But now we are having the argument whether the 2nd or 3rd ranked team should be in the championship game. And many times there is not that much difference in those two teams. I would much rather have the argument about the 8th or 9th ranked teams or an argument about the 16th or 17th ranked teams instead of the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams. Because the top three or four schools at the end of the year should be in a playoff or should have a chance for a National Championship no matter what.

And also they could still have meaningless bowl games. Just because there is a playoff would not make the Music City Bowl or the Chik Fil A Bowl any more irrelevant.
 
#70
#70
volroadwarrior said:
I want the playoffs as much as the next guy, but the Feds should keep their noses out of this. They are infringing on all of our rights, activities, lifestyles, and every aspect of our lives and this is just one more thing they should butt out of.
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I don't like them being involved either but if it's the only way of having a legitimate shot at getting a playoffs, so be it! Otherwise it may never happen.
 
#71
#71
Every team has had to prove themselves. Essentially every team with any history dating back more than 30 years, other than maybe Notre Dame, has probably had unbeaten seasons where they didn't get a shot at a national title. I don't see why Boise deserves special treatment.

Joe Paterno went unbeaten a few times with a Boise like schedule with no national title. He kept on putting together good teams, and eventually, he built Penn State into a college football power that won multiple national titles. Despite the fact it has been 25 years since they actually won a national title, they're still considered a major program today. I don't think that he would trade all that for a chance at a Cinderella run in the late 60's.
 
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RocknRollVol said:
Exactly. When they start jackin with our College Football, that's when I get mad
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When they get their nose under the tent, they will gradually eliminate hitting somebody "too hard" and start demanding that half the team must be girls.

It might get interesting if there is a girl snapping the ball to the QB, but the poor QB would go to jail for sexual harassment.
 
#75
#75
peyton=legend said:
But now we are having the argument whether the 2nd or 3rd ranked team should be in the championship game. And many times there is not that much difference in those two teams. I would much rather have the argument about the 8th or 9th ranked teams or an argument about the 16th or 17th ranked teams instead of the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams. Because the top three or four schools at the end of the year should be in a playoff or should have a chance for a National Championship no matter what.

And also they could still have meaningless bowl games. Just because there is a playoff would not make the Music City Bowl or the Chik Fil A Bowl any more irrelevant.
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Exactly! If a team arguing at #9 or 17 they should have gotten in, well then they should have just won another game. The problem now is there are teams that run their schedule and have no shot, despite being in the same division (FBS) as all the other schools. That is the anti-trust issue.

I could see using the four big bowls as a final four and then having a NCAA national championship game. This way the BCS could still be involved in selection. However, it might also be the end of automatic conference qualifiers. All the other meaningless bowls will remain meaningless.
 
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