Potential BCS antitrust case (merged)

The fact is there are roughly 50 teams in FBS who have a realistic odds of zero to ever have the opportunity to compete for a BCS title. That's a sham in and of itself. TCU could win every single game it plays for the next ten years and never get that shot. Anybody who defends that system needs to go snorkeling with cement flippers.

The national championship has always been referred to as the 'mythical national championship' for a reason. College football has never had it, it's always been a bunch of conference games with a couple non-conference matches scattered in then a handful of teams winning a handful of meaningless bowls at the end of every season.
 
its refered to as 'mythical' in an attempt to justify their desire for a playoff. Its only been around for a few years and was fueled by the media in a desire to boost rating in a normally dead period of cfb and the sheeple blindly follow.
 
This is a good read on the legal portion of the BCS.

Too Much Talk: Does the BCS Violate Antitrust Laws or Not?
Written by Christian Dennie
Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:03
During the college football season, nothing is more commonly discussed than the Bowl Championship Series ("BCS"). Conference commissioners and university presidents argue in favor of the BCS and indicate no desire to change the current system. Whereas, journalists, fans, and universities on the outside looking in detest the BCS and threaten legal action. For over a year, we have heard that the Utah Attorney General will soon file suit against the BCS. We have even heard President Obama call for change. Now, Alan G. Fishel of Arent Fox, LLP, on behalf of Boise State University and the Mountain West Conference, has drafted Overview: The BCS' 22 Tall Tales addressing arguments to overthrow the BCS and requesting that the Department of Justice take up the fight. In Mr. Fishel's 22 point argument, he calls the BCS every name in the book and chastises nearly every conceivable argument ever made by BCS officials and institutions making up the so-called automatic qualifiers ("AQ"). Specifically, Mr. Fishel states the following are simply untrue:
1. The BCS puts the two best teams in the national championship game every year.

2. The BCS ensures marquee matchups in the other four major bowls.

3. As a result of the BCS, "every game counts" in the college football regular season.

4. Under the BCS, the entire regular season is a playoff.

5. A playoff would destroy the regular season.

6. College football has the best regular season in all of sports.

7. Most bowls would cease to exist if there was a playoff.

8. Most college football players do not want a playoff.

9. A playoff would force the players to miss too much time from school.

10. A playoff involves too many games for the players.

11. The market demands the current system.

12. The college football system that the BCS has taken control over is purely voluntary.

13. The Non-AQ conferences have a true opportunity to become AQ conferences.

14. Under the BCS, every team has the same opportunity to win the national championship.

15. Non-AQ conferences receive at least as much revenue as AQ conferences for reaching a major bowl.

16. The BCS is far more equitable to teams outside of what are now called the AQ conferences than the old system.

17. The BCS scheme is fair.

18. There is no way to design a playoff.

19. If the BCS is forced to change its system, it will revert to the 1991 system, and will still not allow a playoff to occur.

20. The BCS scheme does not violate anti-trust law.

21. There is no reason for DOJ to commence a formal investigation of the BCS scheme.

22. Consumers are not harmed by the BCS scheme.

There has been a plethora of law review articles directed at both sides of the BCS equation. A band of journalists even drafted an entire book, Death to the BCS, on the topic. At the end of the day, what would a lawsuit against the BCS (simply a contract among the 11 FBS conferences) do? Would it create a playoff? No. The creation of a playoff is a possibility, but a judge is not going to enjoin the play of postseason college football until a playoff is created. A playoff would only be created on the agreement of the conferences. Then, a system for determining the 8 or 16 teams would have to be created. Of course, journalists would have no problem pointing out the flaws in choosing the top 16 teams. At the end of the day, a solid football team will be left out of any system and the representative from their district will argue the system is inherently flawed. This only shows that fans are passionate about their universities and college football. College football is a fabric of our culture and like the NFL is a juggernaut with substantial economic possibilities. Whenever money is on the line and passion is involved, people will argue.

The following is just a snapshot of what would be argued in an antitrust claim challenging the BCS. The plaintiff, whether it is the DOJ, a Non-AQ Conference, or a university, would argue that the BCS constitutes a group boycott and its operation has anticompetitive effects on the market place. One drawback for the plaintiff would be the requirement to show how the current system injures consumers (i.e., you and me—the fans). The seminal case Brown Shoe Co. v. United States clearly articulated the Sherman Act (antitrust act) protects competition, not competitors. It seems the argument is the system is unfair to Non-AQ teams. The plaintiff would have to show the BCS raises ticket prices or some other form of harm to the consumer. However, recent United States Supreme Court precedent relating to group boycotts has simply glossed over the consumer harm element of an antitrust claim, thus the plaintiff may be able to argue that the failure to establish consumer harm is not the end of the game.

The plaintiff will likely point to Metropolitan Intercollegiate Basketball Association v. NCAA (suit involving the NIT) and argue that the BCS prohibits the offering of the most competitive football contests and, thus, consumer welfare has been sufficiently damaged. As such, the plaintiff will make arguments indicating the BCS is anticompetitive as follows:

1. Quality high ranked teams have been excluded from BCS competition (i.e., Boise State).

2. There is a gross disparity in the amounts paid to AQ schools and Non-AQ schools and, therefore, such payments create gross competitive disparities.

3. Recent surveys (ESPN polls) show both fans and football student-athletes favor a playoff system.

In the event the plaintiff is able to sufficiently establish consumer harm, the BCS would be afforded the opportunity to argue the positive aspects of the BCS system. Following United States Supreme Court precedent established in Board of Regents v. NCAA, the court will apply the Rule of Reason test, which is simply a balancing test allowing the defendant (BCS) to show why the BCS system is pro-competitive. The BCS has argued in congressional hearings and a variety of other forums as follows:

1. The BCS offers a national championship game and four popular bowl games.

2. Every regular season games counts.

3. Attendance has improved following the creation of the BCS.

4. The BCS national championship game creates a guaranteed No. 1 v. No. 2 matchup.

5. The creation of the BCS strengthened the bowl system overall.

6. A playoff system would extend the season and university presidents are unwilling to tax student-athletes academically anymore than necessary.

7. Non-AQs have access to BCS games.

At the end of the day, a jury will decide the fate of the BCS. The question remains: what will a jury verdict in favor of the plaintiff do other than provide substantial monetary damages (antitrust damages are trebled)? Several prominent presidents and conference commissioners have indicated the system will revert to the old bowl tie-in system. Big 10 Commissioner Jim Delaney has made it clear that the Rose Bowl is their most cherished partner and they have no desire to change that. Do you think the Rose Bowl would be happy with the third team from the Big 10 if a playoff system is created? Doubtful. If you think the Non-AQ teams have trouble getting into big time bowls now, wait and see how difficult it will be to bypass a tie-in system. Either way, litigation relating to the BCS will create more litigation (i.e., bowls will likely bring suit), more confusion, and more debate.


Too Much Talk: Does the BCS Violate Antitrust Laws or Not? | College Sports Law Blog - Barlow Garsek & Simon, LLP
 
March Madness has that many great, season defining moments every single year. A playoff in college football would so the same, even a small one.

But on that note...what about all of the great moments that didn't matter because the BCS didn't allow them to?

- Cincinnati's thrilling end to its 2009 season
- Boise State's choke against Nevada
- Auburn's epic early season victory over LSU in 2004
- Half of Oregon's 2001 season
- Miami's thriller over Florida State in 2000, which the BCS intelligently used as a springboard for...Florida State?
- Washington's thriller over Miami in 2000, which no one remembers even though Washington also had only one loss, yet people only complain about Miami getting snubbed (and so many other close games involving the Husklies that year, including a 33-30 victory over one loss Oregon State)
Wouldn't a playoff of more than 4 teams probably render all of those games irrelevant?
 
The fact is there are roughly 50 teams in FBS who have a realistic odds of zero to ever have the opportunity to compete for a BCS title. That's a sham in and of itself. TCU could win every single game it plays for the next ten years and never get that shot.
You don't really believe that, do you?
 
You don't really believe that, do you?

History has shown it to be true.

A team from a non-BCS conference will likely never play for the national title. The joke of matching TCU and Boise State a few years ago (instead of at least letting them prove themselves against BCS schools, as BSU AND TCU have done before) only shows how big of a farce the whole system is.
 
if BSU or TCU were worthy enough to be considered in playing for a NC then all sports writers and coach had to do was give them 1st or 2nd place votes. They didnt. End of story.
 
One way or another, this thing is probably going to court and Mark Shurtleff is going to make the case that the current structure of the D-IA post season is illegal. Even Jim Delany is growing tired of defending the BCS, and this is a whole new can of worms: Estimates of up to $5mil and months after months of court defense for a system whose support is eroding. Not to mention the notion of being put under oath about what the network of bowl games. John Junker was just the tip of the iceberg. This mother is going down and most of the rest of us will be celebrating.
 
You don't really believe that, do you?

You really believe a mid major will ever get voted into the BCSMNCG short of all other major conference teams but one having two losses?

It's the height of naivete to think that any midmajor can earn their way any time they play hard enough. Between getting dodged by major programs, and the way the "national championship game" is picked (which spits in the face of competition), there is a system in place which completely minimizes any mid-major team's chances to play for a title.
 
The fact is there are roughly 50 teams in FBS who have a realistic odds of zero to ever have the opportunity to compete for a BCS title. That's a sham in and of itself.

And that would not change at all if the system were switched to a playoff that included 100 teams.
 
One way or another, this thing is probably going to court and Mark Shurtleff is going to make the case that the current structure of the D-IA post season is illegal. Even Jim Delany is growing tired of defending the BCS, and this is a whole new can of worms: Estimates of up to $5mil and months after months of court defense for a system whose support is eroding. Not to mention the notion of being put under oath about what the network of bowl games. John Junker was just the tip of the iceberg. This mother is going down and most of the rest of us will be celebrating.

your assumption is that the NCAA/BCS will lose and be ruled as anti trust. Big assumption considering the definition of how to prove anti trust. Have you bothered to read it?
 
I also think Boise and other mid majors have a better chance of winning a national title under the current setup than if there was a change.
 
TCU probably would have played for the title last year if Auburn or Oregon had a loss.
So? They won all their games. Not saying I would have voted for them over Oregon or Auburn, but they won all their games and had no shot to earn a MNC.

And that would not change at all if the system were switched to a playoff that included 100 teams.
I don't want that many, but I feel reasonably safe in assuming that even an 8 team playoff would encompass anybody who went undefeated within the polls. "You win all your games and you'll get your shot."

I'd hope the obviousness of mid-majors having a chance to lose on a field of competition rather than lose out in some meaningless poll isn't lost on you.

your assumption is that the NCAA/BCS will lose and be ruled as anti trust. Big assumption considering the definition of how to prove anti trust. Have you bothered to read it?
We can delve into patronizing comments if you'd like, but I'd prefer not to. Yes, I know what anti-competitive conduct is. Yes, I know what barriers to entry are. Yes, I have looked up anti-trust case studies to compare it to how the BCS works. Yes, I believe there is a very good chance that the BCS will be dissolved or changed.
 
I also think Boise and other mid majors have a better chance of winning a national title under the current setup than if there was a change.

The difference is giving them a shot to win it on the field rather than having to tell them "Win all your games then hope all but one of the sixty major conference teams aren't very good this year."

That's not competition, it's a beauty contest. Auburn didn't win a real national championship last year, they won the SEC then won a single, meaningless game at the end of the season. The BCS is only a baby step forward from the old system and nearly every bit as inadequate for determining a national champion.
 
I don't want that many, but I feel reasonably safe in assuming that even an 8 team playoff would encompass anybody who went undefeated within the polls. "You win all your games and you'll get your shot."
The problem is it also includes teams that don't deserve a shot. I think 4 should be fine. The absolute worst case is it turns out like 2009, and I'd rather one team (that wasn't going to win, anyways) cry a little than make it a worse system..
 
That's fine, but there is no such thing as a system worse than one in which a team can go undefeated and wind up only with a cookie and a consolation bowl game.
 
That's fine, but there is no such thing as a system worse than one in which a team can go undefeated and wind up only with a cookie and a consolation bowl game.
If you're simply trying to determine who was the team over the course of the entire season, then I'm not so sure I agree.
 
I have a hard time believing a mid-major would really prefer to enter a playoff with the BCS elite over hoping to get a chance with the current system and then pulling off a one game miracle.
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I'm not sticking up for mid-majors here, I'm saying that we've got a national championship system that is more akin to a beauty pageant than it is football.

If we introduced a playoff next season and a mid-major never won a national championship, I'd be fine with that. At least they lost out on a field instead of a ballot.
 
I have a hard time believing a mid-major would really prefer to enter a playoff with the BCS elite over hoping to get a chance with the current system and then pulling off a one game miracle.
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Agreed.

In all honesty, SEC teams may be the ones who should be complaining the loudest, but that is masked by the SEC's recent dominance in title games.
 
I have a hard time believing a mid-major would really prefer to enter a playoff with the BCS elite over hoping to get a chance with the current system and then pulling off a one game miracle.
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Boise agrees.
 

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