Potential TV Ratings Play No Role Whatsoever

[OneManGang]

let's say they do, hypothetically, and that's a dubious idea...why would a committee member care what they thought?

"That's a nice media contract your conference has. Be a pity if something happened to it and it was YOUR fault."

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I know why ESPN would care, but if I'm a committee member charged with picking the 8 best teams, why would I care? What is Gary Pinkel's interest in choosing a 14.2 ratings matchup instead of an 11.7?

None of the committee "pre decision" things could be released on ESPN without the CFP SPECIFICALLY wanting and letting them be released.

The CFP is doing this, creating this drama, releasing these lists to DRUM UP VIEWS FOR THE PLAYOFFS. It's not ESPN. The CFP is releasing these lists and ESPN is just reporting them.

If you still think the CFP is not interested in drumming up drama, creating buzz, AND GETTING VIEWERS FOR THE PLAYOFFS...... seriously no one can help you.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

Excellence equity is a thing . They couldn’t put Bama in 2022 bc they had 2 losses going into championship weekend and didn’t play for a conference title. TCU didn’t have a loss going into the Big 12 title game and I think lost in OT. Nobody thought they would beat Michigan and they did. Then UGA went belt to ass on them.

of course they could have- if ratings were what they cared about. Of course they don't and didn't.

I keep asking if SMU gets in over Bama this yr will that invalidate the theory, but I get lots of hemming and hawwing

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

None of the committee "pre decision" things could be released on ESPN without the CFP SPECIFICALLY wanting and letting them be released.

The CFP is doing this, creating this drama, releasing these lists to DRUM UP VIEWS FOR THE PLAYOFFS. It's not ESPN. The CFP is releasing these lists and ESPN is just reporting them.

If you still think the CFP is not interested in drumming up drama, creating buzz, AND GETTING VIEWERS FOR THE PLAYOFFS...... seriously no one can help you.

what in the world? What does ESPN having a selection show each week have to do with the price of rice in China? Good grief...

How does that answer this easy question?

I know why ESPN would care, but if I'm a committee member charged with picking the 8 best teams, why would I care? What is Gary Pinkel's interest in choosing a 14.2 ratings matchup instead of an 11.7?

 

[UTvols#1]

If you took the time to do this already to fuel your speculation, you need a hobby.

No, having a hobby is the problem with people it side tracks them from the reality of their life. Hobbies are just another form of entertainment and just a grown up way to play with yourself in you mancave which stems from people wanting to be batman and live in a batcave with all kind of cool toys to play with ...

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

"That's a nice media contract your conference has. Be a pity if something happened to it and it was YOUR fault."

That's a doozy...this is the kind of imagination, while crazy, I actually respect. Hoo boy...

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

And what are your suppositions based on? You seem to think that human beings are incapable of lying and/or showing bias. It's obvious you want to argue for the sake of argument, because your vision of the world is irrational. Alabama is in the playoffs regardless of who wins or loses this next weekend.

Not sure your last statement is true

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

what in the world? What does ESPN having a selection show each week have to do with the price of rice in China? Good grief...

How does that answer this easy question?

I know why ESPN would care, but if I'm a committee member charged with picking the 8 best teams, why would I care? What is Gary Pinkel's interest in choosing a 14.2 ratings matchup instead of an 11.7?

ESPN is getting the pre-release results, which could easily be secret, FROM THE CFP.

Ask yourself why they would release the "current standings" when they haven't made their selection yet?

It's called buzz, hype, generating discussions like we're having over who is where in the ranking and why, etc, etc.

Again, ESPN (and many other media outlets) are JUST REPORTING WHAT HAS BEEN RELEASED BY THE CFP.

Unless the CFP is interested in generating media talk and, in turn, media views for their product, why are they releasing these "this isn't our final decision yet" lists? It's all about making the product sell.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

ESPN is getting the pre-release results, which could easily be secret, FROM THE CFP.

Ask yourself why they would release the "current standings" when they haven't made their selection yet?

It's called buzz, hype, generating discussions like we're having over who is where in the ranking and why, etc, etc.

Again, ESPN (and many other media outlets) are JUST REPORTING WHAT HAS BEEN RELEASED BY THE CFP.

Unless the CFP is interested in generating media talk and, in turn, media views for their product, why are they releasing these "this isn't our final decision yet" lists? It's all about making the product sell.

Dude...they release their final rankings to ESPN early each week so they can have a show around it and have some time to generate graphics for said show. Just like the basketball committee does.

What are you thinking that says about the order of the rankings of the teams? What you're saying literally makes zero sense.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Dude...they release their final rankings to ESPN early each week so they can have a show around it and have some time to generate graphics for said show. Just like the basketball committee does.

What are you thinking that says about the order of the rankings of the teams? What you're saying literally makes zero sense.

Why would the CFP need to release "pre results" that aren't final if the committee is strictly going to pick the best teams at the end? Why?

There's no reason except to generate buzz for the product.

Why release a useless list?

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

Why would the CFP need to release "pre results" that aren't final if the committee is strictly going to pick the best teams at the end? Why?

There's no reason except to generate buzz for the product.

Why release a useless list?

Because ESPN wishes to have a weekly show for which they will sell advertising as part of their winning bid to broadcast the CFP? You realize that's how TV works, right?

What you haven't explained is how that would have anything to do with which teams are selected, something ESPN has literally nothing to do with. They report this news, but have nothing to do with its creation.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Because ESPN wishes to have a weekly show for which they will sell advertising as part of their winning bid to broadcast the CFP? You realize that's how TV works, right?

What you haven't explained is how that would have anything to do with which teams are selected, something ESPN has literally nothing to do with. They report this news, but have nothing to do with its creation.

I'm talking about CFP. They aren't part of ESPN and THEY are releasing the lists.

Why?

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

I'm talking about CFP. They aren't part of ESPN and THEY are releasing the lists.

Why?

Once again, Because ESPN wishes to have a weekly show for which they will sell advertising as part of their winning bid to broadcast the CFP? As part of the package with their partners they agreed to release the rankings of the CFP committee weekly.

Are you ever going to address what that has to do with which teams are selected?

 

[sami]

So they weren't biased in 2022, but got biased in 2023...Rrrrright...

you're twisting yourself into a logical pretzel lol

You have essentially become the black knight in this thread.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Once again, Because ESPN wishes to have a weekly show for which they will sell advertising as part of their winning bid to broadcast the CFP? As part of the package with their partners they agreed to release the rankings of the CFP committee weekly.

Are you ever going to address what that has to do with which teams are selected?

But why is the CFP even making "we're not there yet but here's a list that isn't final?"

If you're saying that they're making ESPN happy, hmmmmmm, interesting. I wonder if they'd skew the picks to make ESPN happier?

Oh no, they'd never do that. They'd help them make money with a show by making these useless lists, but they'd never help them make money my skewing the actual picks. Never. Never ever. Uh......

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

But why is the CFP even making "we're not there yet but here's a list that isn't final?"

If you're saying that they're making ESPN happy, hmmmmmm, interesting. I wonder if they'd skew the picks to make ESPN happier?

Oh no, they'd never do that. They'd help them make money with a show by making these useless lists, but they'd never help them make money my skewing the actual picks. Never. Never ever. Uh......

Releasing rankings weekly is part of their tasks as committee members...The leap you are making is no different than, "the Conferences make their partners happy by providing games every week, why wouldn't they also make them happy by fixing the games?". Therefore they probably fix the games. Some silly logic

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Releasing rankings weekly is part of their tasks as committee members...The leap you are making is no different than, "the Conferences make their partners happy by providing games every week, why wouldn't they also make them happy by fixing the games?". Therefore they probably fix the games. Some silly logic

It's not part of their task at all. Their job is to rank the teams AT THE END OF THE SEASON for the playoffs. They are obviously bending to ESPN.

I've never said fix games and don't believe that happens.

I believe they might skew the bubble picks, like Alabama, to make everyone more money than letting in a lesser brand like SMU (assuming they lose to Clemson.) I don't, and never will, think the games are fixed.

There's zero reason for the CFP to create useless lists so ESPN can make money with a "rankings show" so it's obvious there's a synergistic relationship for ESPN and CFP.

I'm suggesting that applies to the bubble teams. My issue is a 3 loss Alabama vs several 2 loss teams. It's the Bama brand that's tilting the scale.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

It's not part of their task at all. Their job is to rank the teams AT THE END OF THE SEASON for the playoffs. They are obviously bending to ESPN.

I've never said fix games and don't believe that happens.

I believe they might skew the bubble picks, like Alabama, to make everyone more money than letting in a lesser brand like SMU (assuming they lose to Clemson.) I don't, and never will, think the games are fixed.

There's zero reason for the CFP to create useless lists so ESPN can make money with a "rankings show" so it's obvious there's a synergistic relationship for ESPN and CFP.

I'm suggesting that applies to the bubble teams. My issue is a 3 loss Alabama vs several 2 loss teams. It's the Bama brand that's tilting the scale.

No, actually part of their task is to create the rankings weekly. And remember, the committee is made up of individuals...there is not any reason in the world for committee member as individuals to consider ratings. It impacts them as individuals in no way...or at least so tangentially in the most miniscule way as to be not worth considering.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It's not part of their task at all. Their job is to rank the teams AT THE END OF THE SEASON for the playoffs. They are obviously bending to ESPN.

I've never said fix games and don't believe that happens.

I believe they might skew the bubble picks, like Alabama, to make everyone more money than letting in a lesser brand like SMU (assuming they lose to Clemson.) I don't, and never will, think the games are fixed.

There's zero reason for the CFP to create useless lists so ESPN can make money with a "rankings show" so it's obvious there's a synergistic relationship for ESPN and CFP.

I'm suggesting that applies to the bubble teams. My issue is a 3 loss Alabama vs several 2 loss teams. It's the Bama brand that's tilting the scale.

It’s brand excellence. As much as we hate to say it, they’re gonna get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a bubble situation. Is it right? not necessarily . But it’s a tale as old as time. If ESPN cannot cross too much of a line they’re going to get that Bama at Notre Dame Friday primetime kickoff . I don’t like it. I think Ole Miss is more deserving if we’re getting into 3 loss teams, but I won’t be shocked either .

This is about the casual fan, more than the hardcore fans. You and I are going to watch, most people who love college football will watch, but my neighbor who cares a lot less than we do watched Rudy and Forrest Gump and that’s their connection. It sounds stupid, but that’s your casual fan.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

No, actually part of their task is to create the rankings weekly. And remember, the committee is made up of individuals...there is not any reason in the world for committee member as individuals to consider ratings. It impacts them as individuals in no way...or at least so tangentially in the most miniscule way as to be not worth considering.

You're still acting like this is a jury of unrelated people. These are people in the football business, hired by a company, to do the best thing for the company business.

Your entire premise that these are disinterested impartial "juror like" people is flawed from the getgo. It's neither impartial nor are the jurors anonymous.

They are selected for their football knowledge to do a job for a company.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

You're still acting like this is a jury of unrelated people. These are people in the football business, hired by a company, to do the best thing for the company business.

Your entire premise that these are disinterested impartial "juror like" people is flawed from the getgo. It's neither impartial nor are the jurors anonymous.

They are selected for their football knowledge to do a job for a company.

What happens if they don’t do what the company wants?

 

[ntxVOL]

It's not part of their task at all. Their job is to rank the teams AT THE END OF THE SEASON for the playoffs. They are obviously bending to ESPN.

I've never said fix games and don't believe that happens.

I believe they might skew the bubble picks, like Alabama, to make everyone more money than letting in a lesser brand like SMU (assuming they lose to Clemson.) I don't, and never will, think the games are fixed.

There's zero reason for the CFP to create useless lists so ESPN can make money with a "rankings show" so it's obvious there's a synergistic relationship for ESPN and CFP.

I'm suggesting that applies to the bubble teams. My issue is a 3 loss Alabama vs several 2 loss teams. It's the Bama brand that's tilting the scale.

Well since ALL the money the conferences/teams receive from the CFP comes from ESPN, it should be obvious that ESPN gets whatever they want.

ESPN is paying the bills here, don't understand why people don't see this.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

What happens if they don’t do what the company wants?

How the hell would anyone not in the business know such a question?

What I do know is: the people picking are chosen by a company to do a job for the company.

You've been harping for days that "they're independent" when they aren't, that they are autonomous when they were actually hired, that they don't have an interest when they are all in the business, etc, etc.

It's a business decision to even have a CFP. It's obviously a business decision to choose the teams and not some impartial, jury like, "try the spirits to see if they are worthy" selection.

It's business.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Well since ALL the money the conferences/teams receive from the CFP comes from ESPN, it should be obvious that ESPN gets whatever they want.

ESPN is paying the bills here, don't understand why people don't see this.

The hoops people jump through to insist the whole playoffs or previously the bowl system ISN'T and WASN'T a massive money oriented business is pretty astounding.

The next thing you know they'll be insisting that the massive media driven spectacle known as Christmas isn't primarily about sales but about the birth of Jesus.

Money corrupts, absolute fortunes of money corrupt absolutely.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

The hoops people jump through to insist the whole playoffs or previously the bowl system ISN'T and WASN'T a massive money oriented business is pretty astounding.

The next thing you know they'll be insisting that the massive media driven spectacle known as Christmas isn't primarily about sales but about the birth of Jesus.

Money corrupts, absolute fortunes of money corrupt absolutely.

Where did people say it wasn’t a massive money oriented business?

Still, all these posts later, no one can tell me why a committee member would vote differently based on what ESPN might want

And really, that says it all