Pre-spring QB poll

[KBVol]

I agreed and Worley was 13th QB among SEC, only one better than Kentucky QB in 2013season as I saw his performance all games in 2013seasons at Neyland Stadium. And, the low performance caused Florida Game starter QB Peterman. And, Georgia and South Carolina Games led by RB, WR and OL, he is not good performance in terms of QB performance evaluation, the pass accuracy was inconsistent. Therefore, Dobbs or Ferguson cannot exceed Worley in 2014seaon, we should use Freshman QB who is highly touted and may be recruited by BJ in 2015season.

What? I know this is English but .....

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

I agreed and Worley was 13th QB among SEC, only one better than Kentucky QB in 2013season as I saw his performance all games in 2013seasons at Neyland Stadium. And, the low performance caused Florida Game starter QB Peterman. And, Georgia and South Carolina Games led by RB, WR and OL, he is not good performance in terms of QB performance evaluation, the pass accuracy was inconsistent. Therefore, Dobbs or Ferguson cannot exceed Worley in 2014seaon, we should use Freshman QB who is highly touted and may be recruited by BJ in 2015season.

Maybe he was thirteenth because he only played part of the season?

Or translated for you...


Worley thirteenth SEC QB performanced based partially season stats in error.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Worley was considered a better prospect than Dobbs as was Peterman. Worley was one of the most prolific passers in HSFB. Questions about arm strength were more than answered by the positive comparisons to Bray a couple of years ago.

I agree that whoever the starter is they will have FAR more help at WR than Worley had last year... while many of you were judging his talent of lack of it.

Worley was a 3 star coming out of school and put up monster numbers in an offense that did nothing but pass.

And the whole thing about his arm strength comes from one comment during a game where an announcer mentioned Worley wasn't too far behind bray when measured by a radar gun. That means nothing and we don't even know the context of the competition. Both were probably just chucking the hell out of a ball at a dude 10 or 15 yards away. That one piece of circumstantial evidence doesn't trump what we saw on tape every year Worley has played: he floats some passed and doesn't throw a very strong deep ball.

That doesn't mean he might not be our best option this season. But saying he has more upside than Dobbs is insane.

 

[gnm53108]

Maybe he was thirteenth because he only played part of the season?

Or translated for you...


Worley thirteenth SEC QB performanced based partially season stats in error.

Well nicely did.

 

[sjt18]

Worley was a 3 star coming out of school and put up monster numbers in an offense that did nothing but pass.

And the whole thing about his arm strength comes from one comment during a game where an announcer mentioned Worley wasn't too far behind bray when measured by a radar gun. That means nothing and we don't even know the context of the competition. Both were probably just chucking the hell out of a ball at a dude 10 or 15 yards away. That one piece of circumstantial evidence doesn't trump what we saw on tape every year Worley has played: he floats some passed and doesn't throw a very strong deep ball.

That doesn't mean he might not be our best option this season. But saying he has more upside than Dobbs is insane.

I am not sure I said he had more. I don't think I have said any of them have more than the others. I HAVE said that all four have the natural talent to be very good SEC QB's.

For what little it is actually worth, Dobbs and Ferguson were also 3* players. Peterman was a 4*.

 

[sjt18]

I agreed and Worley was 13th QB among SEC, only one better than Kentucky QB in 2013season as I saw his performance all games in 2013seasons at Neyland Stadium. And, the low performance caused Florida Game starter QB Peterman. And, Georgia and South Carolina Games led by RB, WR and OL, he is not good performance in terms of QB performance evaluation, the pass accuracy was inconsistent. Therefore, Dobbs or Ferguson cannot exceed Worley in 2014seaon, we should use Freshman QB who is highly touted and may be recruited by BJ in 2015season.

If my translation from gibberish to English is correct... you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

I am not sure I said he had more. I don't think I have said any of them have more than the others. I HAVE said that all four have the natural talent to be very good SEC QB's.

For what little it is actually worth, Dobbs and Ferguson were also 3* players. Peterman was a 4*.

I guess it depends what recruiting service you use, but ferguson and Dobbs were more highly rated by more scouting services than any of our others. They're both 4 stars by ESPN and 247 and are composite 4 stars

None of our other QBs have that going for them (not that it makes a difference on the field necessarily). Recruiting analysts obviously thought more highly of those two than Peterman or Worley

Edit: also, my original response was to a poster who said Worley had more chemistry with the receivers than the freshman. That's what I was clarifying.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

We are devastating if Worley starts QB this year. The reasons are many but significant one is what he has no skills to compete among SEC though he is senior. I will hope Dobbs or Ferguson will compete this year and start QB position meaningfully.

Not necessarily. Worley has shown the most promise. I feel much more comfortable with him starting than an unknown. Dobbs was a deer in the headlights last year, and Peterman...Christ don't get me started on that guy. We have noooo idea how Fergie would fare but given his CFB virgin status I would bet he would play similar to Dobbs. Thus, I think Worley is our best bet

 

[volsohard99]

peterman likely will transfer if he doesn't start. it might not be too late for him to be productive elsewhere...that being said i dont think hes a bad qb at all i think that florida DLine was brutal. but i would probably transfer if it were me and i didnt get the starting job. he could easily start or at least play elsewhere.

worley may be too late to transfer. and i feel really bad because he has his moments and you know the talent is sometimes there but he's just off a lot. maybe because comparing him to tyler bray is not very fair. bray has just an insane talent...largely wasted but talented nonetheless.

but for some reason I feel like Dobbs is going to get the starting job. Not sure. I think the coaches love him and I think he did a fair job near the end of the season and weirdly just as Worley was the "safest" last year it seems like Dobbs is the safest this year. Worley clearly didn't cut it. Peterman will likely be given another chance.. and I think Peterman if given a fair comparison is probably better than Ferguson.

All in all Dobbs starts.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

peterman likely will transfer if he doesn't start. it might not be too late for him to be productive elsewhere...that being said i dont think hes a bad qb at all i think that florida DLine was brutal. but i would probably transfer if it were me and i didnt get the starting job. he could easily start or at least play elsewhere.

worley may be too late to transfer. and i feel really bad because he has his moments and you know the talent is sometimes there but he's just off a lot. maybe because comparing him to tyler bray is not very fair. bray has just an insane talent...largely wasted but talented nonetheless.

but for some reason I feel like Dobbs is going to get the starting job. Not sure. I think the coaches love him and I think he did a fair job near the end of the season and weirdly just as Worley was the "safest" last year it seems like Dobbs is the safest this year. Worley clearly didn't cut it. Peterman will likely be given another chance.. and I think Peterman if given a fair comparison is probably better than Ferguson.

All in all Dobbs starts.

Peterman is the de facto starter next year unless one of the freshman step up. If he's the #2 I doubt hell transfer; he'd have to sit out a year wouldn't he?

 

[sjt18]

peterman likely will transfer if he doesn't start. it might not be too late for him to be productive elsewhere...that being said i dont think hes a bad qb at all i think that florida DLine was brutal. but i would probably transfer if it were me and i didnt get the starting job. he could easily start or at least play elsewhere.

Agree. That beating was just something that will be difficult to overcome psychologically. If he did somehow come around then you would have to believe that Dobbs, Ferguson, or both would look at transferring. For that reason, I think he would have to WIN the job by a margin in order to win the job.

worley may be too late to transfer. and i feel really bad because he has his moments and you know the talent is sometimes there but he's just off a lot. maybe because comparing him to tyler bray is not very fair. bray has just an insane talent...largely wasted but talented nonetheless.

Him being off couldn't have anything to do with WR's not playing well? To see what he's capable of when playing with confidence and confidence in his receivers, I'd suggest looking at his passes vs MTSU with D Rogers. He put the ball in some very small windows on a regular basis. If the WR's do their job then I have confidence that at least 3 of these QB's can do theirs... including Worley.

but for some reason I feel like Dobbs is going to get the starting job. Not sure. I think the coaches love him and I think he did a fair job near the end of the season and weirdly just as Worley was the "safest" last year it seems like Dobbs is the safest this year.

Hardly.

Worley clearly didn't cut it.

Clearly? You might want to look at the last two games he played healthy... UGA and USCe. He made plays and avoided turnovers. He and the WR's were just beginning to develop rapport... and THEY were just starting to play with a modest amount of consistency.

You could construe from my comments that I am pro-Worley. I'm not. I want the best guy out there regardless. I am just anti-anti-Worley because I think virtually all of the justifications for writing him off are based on poor reasoning.

Peterman will likely be given another chance.. and I think Peterman if given a fair comparison is probably better than Ferguson.

All in all Dobbs starts.

I will support whoever starts and trust that the coaches will start the right guy. I choose NOT to develop expectations so that I am not "disappointed" for no good reason if "my guy" isn't the starter.

Based on everything we "know", I think Worley will start. But I believe all 4 have the natural talent to be very good QB's for this team.

 

[Volador]

Worley plays the first quarter. The other 47 quarters are clearly up for grabs