Predict the East

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Ut_Airade_Attack said:
1. Georgia
2. South Carolina
3. Missouri
4. Florida
5. Tennessee
6. Kentucky
7. Vanderbilt
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Flip Vandy and Kentucky and Florida and Missouri and I agree.

For all the people wanting to put Vandy behind ky and last in the East already, because their incoming recruiting class was awful last year, keep in mind that they redshirted virtually all of Franklin's last class in 2013....21 of em. That class will have a much bigger impact on this years team than the class they just signed in February.
 
#27
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Vol4life25 said:
Trolltrolltrolltrawl
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I love it when someone gives their honest opinion, they're blasted as a troll. Just because UT isn't in the top 2 of the East doesn't mean it isn't a valid prediction. I wouldn't put UT ahead of UGA, USC or FL right now either. Those teams are way ahead of us in terms of talent and depth.
 
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Dude our defense is returning more starters. They could be starting 3 freshman in the secondary. The went 11-2 in a very weak SEC east.

And we went 5-7 in a very weak SEC east.

I like the enthusiasm, but we have as many question marks or more as anybody else in the east. And it is not realistic to have us any higher than 3rd in the east (behind UGA and SCar), and half our fanbase predicts a victory over UF in the offseason every year and yet we still have a 9-game losing streak to them.
 
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KBVol said:
We'll return 3 (AJ, Cam, Randolph) starters on defense, including at least 3 freshmen (S, CB, LB and/or DT). We went 5-7 in a very weak SEC East. Plus, over the last 3 years, while we've won 15 games, they've won 33. They finished #4 in the country last year while we sat home in December.

We won last year and may win again this year, but their program and team is better and healthier overall at this point.
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You forgot Coleman at NB, he was a starter last year but moved from CB to NB. Also, Maggitt should be counted as a starter. McNeil IDK!
 
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fade route said:
Seriously? Their roster has a significant advantage in the talent and depth category. We are playing at their place, and if you think Spurrier has forgotten that his #10 ranked cocks lost to an unranked UT last year, you're insane. Not to mention just about every early prediction has them a top 10-15 team.
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This.

People tend to make the "exception" the "rule" when it makes them feel better about a certain situation. The USC game last year was an exception at this stage of UT's rebuilding process. Oregon, Bama, and Auburn were the rule.

I used to caddy at Kiawah back in the day and time after time I'd see guys line up for the middle of the fairway only to slice it in the junk over and over. When I'd suggest they aim left, 100% of the time their responses were, "What if I hit it straight?"
 
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KBVol said:
Flip Vandy and Kentucky and Florida and Missouri and I agree.

For all the people wanting to put Vandy behind ky and last in the East already, because their incoming recruiting class was awful last year, keep in mind that they redshirted virtually all of Franklin's last class in 2013....21 of em. That class will have a much bigger impact on this years team than the class they just signed in February.
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Not meant to be a factual statement.

Vandy is running a new system, with maybe a new QB, and they are switching to a 3-4 without the personnel to run it. They could be decent this year, but I doubt it.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
You forgot Coleman at NB, he was a starter last year but moved from CB to NB. Also, Maggitt should be counted as a starter. McNeil IDK!
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I did omit McNeil. Maggitt didn't play a snap last year. No way McNeil starts at safety based on everything I've heard and read...It'll be one of the freshmen. Either way, for the guy I was responding to to make it sound like we have some great advantage because SoCar only returns 3 defensive starters is both inaccurate and foolish.
 
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fade route said:
Seriously? Their roster has a significant advantage in the talent and depth category.
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Have you actually compared their depth and quality of depth or talent? It does not look as strong to me as it apparently does to you if you have.

We are playing at their place, and if you think Spurrier has forgotten that his #10 ranked cocks lost to an unranked UT last year, you're insane. Not to mention just about every early prediction has them a top 10-15 team.
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What did the early predictions say about Auburn, Mizzou, and UF last year this time? For whatever reason, Spurrier has never gotten great recruiting traction at USCe. Their success is as much if not more a function of the problems UT, UF, and UGA have been having than them getting better.

Spurrier is a great coach. They will be looking for revenge. The game is at their place. Considering where the two programs have been for the past few years, it is difficult to predict a UT win. However, some of us recognized that last year's game was a good match up for UT. Both teams lost some key players. The question then is how good is Jones and who replaces the lost players with the more talented players.

I don't know for sure if Jones can compete with Spurrier as a coach. USCe has a little more experience. UT will backfill with the more talented players.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Fun fact: That's the first non-VN team message board I've actually been able to read and understand. Ever.

They could really teach whoever's running the Vandy and Mizzou boards a thing or two. Those made my brain hurt.
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92volalum said:
Tn will be around 4th n that suxs n a travisty to stink this long..

BTW who cares who is above them we should be outrage that as a fan base we have had two 5 win seasons n most VN poster think we r headed for a third n its OK...geez oh wait 2016 will be the year.
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I'm not sure what I just read, but I think I agree?
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It appears to be pteradactylinese...
 
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sjt18 said:
Have you actually compared their depth and quality of depth or talent? It does not look as strong to me as it apparently does to you if you have.



What did the early predictions say about Auburn, Mizzou, and UF last year this time? For whatever reason, Spurrier has never gotten great recruiting traction at USCe. Their success is as much if not more a function of the problems UT, UF, and UGA have been having than them getting better.

Spurrier is a great coach. They will be looking for revenge. The game is at their place. Considering where the two programs have been for the past few years, it is difficult to predict a UT win. However, some of us recognized that last year's game was a good match up for UT. Both teams lost some key players. The question then is how good is Jones and who replaces the lost players with the more talented players.

I don't know for sure if Jones can compete with Spurrier as a coach. USCe has a little more experience. UT will backfill with the more talented players.
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Kinda think last year's win with a pathetic roster in terms of talent and mentality showed Jones can compete with Spurrier as a coach.

He didn't show he can't compete with Muschamp, Malzahn, Helfrich, Pinkle and Saban as a coach last year, but he did vs Spurrier ...and Franklin and Richt for that matter
 
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UGA
UF/UT
UF/UT/USCe
USCe/UT
Vandy
Mizzou
UK

Difficult to peg UT before they firmly establish a LT. I'm guessing 2-4.

UF and UGA are the most talented teams. Neither has great coaching. USCe has great coaching but not great talent. Mizzou lost pretty much all of the playmakers who helped them take advantage of a charmed schedule last fall. I expect them to tumble. Vandy is suddenly in bad shape. UK doesn't seem to be upgrading much if any.

The door is wide open for UT if the Vols and Jones can step through it.
 
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When hoping for an 8 win season, it helps to remember that we still have Jancek and Martinez running the D.
 
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sjt18 said:
Have you actually compared their depth and quality of depth or talent? It does not look as strong to me as it apparently does to you if you have.



What did the early predictions say about Auburn, Mizzou, and UF last year this time? For whatever reason, Spurrier has never gotten great recruiting traction at USCe. Their success is as much if not more a function of the problems UT, UF, and UGA have been having than them getting better.

Spurrier is a great coach. They will be looking for revenge. The game is at their place. Considering where the two programs have been for the past few years, it is difficult to predict a UT win. However, some of us recognized that last year's game was a good match up for UT. Both teams lost some key players. The question then is how good is Jones and who replaces the lost players with the more talented players.

I don't know for sure if Jones can compete with Spurrier as a coach. USCe has a little more experience. UT will backfill with the more talented players.
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He hasn't gotten traction in recruiting because Columbia is a ****hole.
 
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VolAllen said:
He hasn't gotten traction in recruiting because Columbia is a ****hole.
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Be that as it may, he's competing with lesser talent. He gets some studs and builds around them. They will always be a beatable team due to that if you have talent across the board and competitive coaching.

If I were a SC kid intent on staying in state, I'd probably choose Clemson. But my wife is from there and USCe does have a loyal following.
 
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sjt18 said:
Have you actually compared their depth and quality of depth or talent? It does not look as strong to me as it apparently does to you if you have.



What did the early predictions say about Auburn, Mizzou, and UF last year this time? For whatever reason, Spurrier has never gotten great recruiting traction at USCe. Their success is as much if not more a function of the problems UT, UF, and UGA have been having than them getting better.

Spurrier is a great coach. They will be looking for revenge. The game is at their place. Considering where the two programs have been for the past few years, it is difficult to predict a UT win. However, some of us recognized that last year's game was a good match up for UT. Both teams lost some key players. The question then is how good is Jones and who replaces the lost players with the more talented players.

I don't know for sure if Jones can compete with Spurrier as a coach. USCe has a little more experience. UT will backfill with the more talented players.
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If Spurrier's success can be attributed to UGA and UF being on a down cycle, then why haven't we capitalized on the same thing? Hint: because SC is a deeper, more talented team and have been for the better part of the last half decade.
 
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sjt18 said:
Be that as it may, he's competing with lesser talent. He gets some studs and builds around them. They will always be a beatable team due to that if you have talent across the board and competitive coaching.

If I were a SC kid intent on staying in state, I'd probably choose Clemson. But my wife is from there and USCe does have a loyal following.
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I've lived in South Carolina for a long time and I'll tell you this. Since Spurrier arrived, there are many more Cock fans than Tiger fans. And if I had to choose where to live between Cola or Clemson, I'm going Cola 10 times out of 10.
 
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92volalum said:
Tn will be around 4th n that suxs n a travisty to stink this long..

BTW who cares who is above them we should be outrage that as a fan base we have had two 5 win seasons n most VN poster think we r headed for a third n its OK...geez oh wait 2016 will be the year.
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volalum? Based on your incoherent sentence Vol State, maybe? #HarvardontheHighway #PrincetononthePike
 
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#49
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south carolina wins the east because i believe south carolina will beat georgia.

i don't think anyone from the east beats alabama, auburn or lsu next season.

the sec east has been criticized for being weak the last few seasons and i honestly believe this is going to be the weakest the division has ever been.

makes me shed a tear as i think one of ron zook's teams could seriously contend to win the sec east this year. that's how bad this division is. what a spurrier team would do to the division is no longer allowed by law.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Why USC jr over UT?
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"4. South Carolina-they haven't been able to recruit with the rest of the pack, and will suffer from major loses on the dline."

Does this perhaps sound like a familiar theme? Perhaps what our competition is saying about us?
 
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