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Nash_Vol97 said:
Hope a new manager bump can at least grind out a few more wins. 17th place the last 2 seasons has been 38 points and Everton sit at 17 with about 18 games to go. I think 17th place this year could be a little lower than the last two years. Big log jam at the bottom.

Hope y’all can figure out a hire that will be good enough to get you out of the drop zone and safe. I don’t want to see Everton relegated.
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The league is really top heavy this year. Massive gap between the top sides and everyone else, so probably 7-8 teams only realistically capable of picking up wins when they play each other. With that in mind, we have to stop being the Relegation Fodder Charity…
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
No idea, and no idea if changing the manager even matters right now. The club is so fundamentally rotten down to it’s core that a change in whoever is on the sideline is unlikely to make a huge difference. The squad is still completely unbalanced and well below PL standard. The board and the supporters are locked in a toxic civil war that hangs over everything. A £750M stadium is halfway built with hardly any way to pay for it even if we aren’t relegated, and God only knows what becomes of it if we go down.

All that said, we’re only 3 points off 14th with 19 games to play, and there are an abundance of awful clubs in the bottom half this year. We have one of the best keepers in the PL, and until the WC hiatus, had one of the most solid defences in the league. A couple serviceable loans up top to increase the goals even slightly, and a decent hire of someone who knows how to get a team grinding out results in a relegation fight and it’s still there to be salvaged.
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I explained this to my boys this weekend. They have some issues with their current club coach. Told them don't look at your coach. Look beyond. If leadership is poor and not aligned (President, Owner, Director, etc..) it doesn't matter who the coach is. Toxicity flows downhill. It would take a rare person to be able to not only improve Everton's performance on the field, but also to inspire those above to be better.

I suggest Vincent Company. The man oozes class, discipline, intelligence, and winning.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I explained this to my boys this weekend. They have some issues with their current club coach. Told them don't look at your coach. Look beyond. If leadership is poor and not aligned (President, Owner, Director, etc..) it doesn't matter who the coach is. Toxicity flows downhill. It would take a rare person to be able to not only improve Everton's performance on the field, but also to inspire those above to be better.

I suggest Vincent Company. The man oozes class, discipline, intelligence, and winning.
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Kompany would be great. But…no chance he’s leaving his current job with the squad he’s built that is currently about to stroll back into the PL next year to jump about the sinking ship that is Everton right now.
 
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Chelsea has pissed off so many clubs with their FFP loophole that UEFA is about to close it next summer 😬 no wonder Boehly is trying to still spend another 150M this window because UEFA apparently won’t enact the loop hole closure on players purchases this window, but will starting in the summer.

 
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Fair or not, I couldn't ever quite get past Lampard and John Terry etc with the whole thing at Heathrow after 9/11, so it was always tough to wish Everton well while he was there. And that sucks, because I really enjoyed Everton back when David Moyes was manager. LD's loan stint, Tim Howard, Fellaini's hair, Arteta, Europa League appearances. Kind of fitting that Lampard got sacked after losing to Moyes's West Ham. I don't know the first thing about Moshiri but I hope everyone gets rowing in the same direction there.
 
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mad4vols said:
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I know Reynolds and McElhenney aren't hurting for money, but Wrexham is going take significant outside investment to ever become a club above League 1.

I would think that would take away their controlling interest in that case. But I'm not an expert, and would love to see them make a leap like that.
 
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Probably the best final day relegation battle ever.



The West Brom great escape of 2005 was certainly the most dramatic. Bottom of the table on Christmas day, bottom of the table going into the last day, and competing with Norwich, Southampton, and Crystal Palace for 17th place.

Going in to the final round of fixtures, the table was as follows:

17th. Norwich City 33 Points
18th. Southampton 32 Points
19th. Crystal Palace 32 Points
20th. West Bromwich Albion 31 Points

The fixtures:

Fulham vs Norwich City
Southampton vs Man Utd
Charlton Athletic vs Crystal Palace
West Brom vs Portsmouth

Bear in mind all these matches took place simultaneously.

There was the subplot of Southampton, managed at the time by Harry Redknapp, trying to hold onto their proud record of being in the top division for 27 consecutive years.

The drama began in the 10th minute. The Saints took the lead against Utd while Norwich, safe in 17th place going into the day, conceded at Fulham, sending Southampton to safety. But Utd soon equalized. However, with Palace losing at Charlton, and with Norwich collapsing against Fulham, Southampton remained above Norwich thanks to their superior goal difference. Could Southampton hold on for a draw?

Things took a twist in the 54th minute, Crystal Palace equalized at Charlton, and by virtue of a better goal difference, leapfrogged Norwich into 18th but remained behind Southampton. Meanwhile, it was still goal-less at West Brom.

The table looked like this:

17th. Southampton 33 Points (damn: -20)
18th. Crystal Palace 33 Points (damn -21)
19th. Norwich City 33 Points (damn -32)
20th. West Bromwich Albion 31 Points (damn -25)

Southampton had to pray their bitter rivals Portsmouth did not concede against West Brom. But that wasn't to be. Geoff Horsfield gave West Brom the lead in the 58th, and Kieran Richardson doubled it in the 75th, sending the Baggies to 17th. In this period, Norwich conceded yet again to go 4-0 down, while Ruud van Nistelrooy gave Utd the lead against Southampton in the 64th.

Things were looking good for West Brom. Alas, not for long, because news reached that Charlton conceded a penalty against Palace, which Andrew Johnson promptly converted, giving Palace the lead. All Palace had to do now was hold on for another 15 minutes.

Norwich ended up losing 6-0.
Southampton lost 2-1.
West Brom won 2-0.

Crystal Palace did not hold onto their lead. They drew 2-2, and West Brom pulled off the Great Escape.
 
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