President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
I think this POS needs to be shipped back to the Land she loves most. Go bitch there.
She's no good to us living here among the American people. She's very ungrateful.

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Why do all these twitter headlines read like that? She isn't 'disgraced'. I agree she is a worthless POS, but she hasn't been disgraced.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fair take.

I'll just add that it may seem like I'm jumping on foolish things he says or does so often that it dilutes the rightful criticisms. Thing is, Trump's never ending stream of consciousness, no filter, nonsense makes it hard to hold back for sake of narrowing the focus.
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In what might be a first, I agree with with everything you said in a substantive post! 😁

Does that make me an Independent now? 🤣
 
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Orangeburst said:
Maybe too high but not much imo, then throw in tens of thousands personnel, maintenance, 70 plus aircraft at say 60M each.

13B Ford
6B x (2) AB
3B CG
Underway replenishment ships Unknown

A great many of the carrier aircraft have to be used for CAP just for defense of the CAG. I see no need to control blue ocean airspace when there would be nothing to protect.
Now I am not saying no carriers..maybe 8.

The strike version of Stingray will add tens of billions more. Just keep the S-3 tanker version. Already there, cheap, easy to maintain...If you really want to doing it correctly, develop at least a 1000K mile radius strike plane or drone.
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Yes, true - Carrier groups cost a lot of money.
Also true - In an island chain conflict in the Pacific theatre, boats will be important.

I love B-21 and Virginia as much as you, but they simply cannot perform the same function as a carrier in the mobile base of operations role.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yes, true - Carrier groups cost a lot of money.
Also true - In an island chain conflict in the Pacific theatre, boats will be important.

I love B-21 and Virginia as much as you, but they simply cannot perform the same function as a carrier in the mobile base of operations role.
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yea, but contradicts your dispersement and big target issues
 
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Orangeburst said:
yea, but contradicts your dispersement and big target issues
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Something will always be the biggest target.

A Lightning Carrier can perform the same function as a Super Carrier, just with a smaller capacity. And yes, I would prefer 2 Light to 1 Super - but we need a mix of both.

I’m also an advocate for a more diverse(!) submarine force in terms of size, function, mission.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Something will always be the biggest target.

A Lightning Carrier can perform the same function as a Super Carrier, just with a smaller capacity. And yes, I would prefer 2 Light to 1 Super - but we need a mix of both.

I’m also an advocate for a more diverse(!) submarine force in terms of size, function, mission.
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just give me 20 CBG, 10 ARG, 100 SSN, 400 B-21

a boy can dream
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
One of the best aviation emergency scenes ever.

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As young as I was, it will always be one of my life's greatest experiences to have stepped up into that bad ass for a couple of years, almost every Sunday morning from 1966-67. While I never actually served, I have a great fondness of the military experience my Dad and Mom gave me at the end of a career in the military. The benefits certainly carried on into retirement. For me, until I was 22 and a senior in college. Being able to visit the greatest Air Bases around the world was absolutely priceless, almost literally 😆
 
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lawgator1 said:
Depends on whether you believe Putin and the Russians have worked to interfere in our elections, social media, etc. I believe that to be the case and so am naturally concerned when Trump, who without question benefited from such interference at various points, acts to thwart efforts to detect and combat it. Anyone with common sense would have that concern.

If you believe that Putin and the Russians did not interfere, then you presumably would not have the same concerns. I can't debate or discuss it with you if you take that position, which I believe to be fundamentally at odds with objective evidence that they DID interfere.

But, having said that, I think the ultimate issue is the DEGREE to which that interference occurred. There is no way to quantify that, but in my view if we can't be certain of that now, then the absolute LAST thing we should be doing is reducing our ability to detect it moving forward.
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I think millions of Hillary voters ran to the polls and pulled the lever for Trump, because of a smattering, of ambiguous Russia-sponsored online media.
That's essentially what you're saying. You shouldn't even need this to disprove a preposterous assertion - it's basic common sense awareness - but:

therecord.media

Russian interference had no meaningful effect on 2016 election result, study finds

A new study challenges assumptions that Russian social media operations had a significant impact on the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
therecord.media therecord.media
The research from the Center for Social Media and Politics at New York University, published on Monday in the journal Nature Communications, found “no evidence of a meaningful relationship between exposure to the Russian foreign influence campaign and changes in attitudes, polarization, or voting behavior” among those who had been exposed to it.
 
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NCFisher said:
I think millions of Hillary voters ran to the polls and pulled the lever for Trump, because of a smattering, of ambiguous Russia-sponsored online media.
That's essentially what you're saying. You shouldn't even need this to disprove a preposterous assertion - it's basic common sense awareness - but:

therecord.media

Russian interference had no meaningful effect on 2016 election result, study finds

A new study challenges assumptions that Russian social media operations had a significant impact on the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
therecord.media therecord.media
The research from the Center for Social Media and Politics at New York University, published on Monday in the journal Nature Communications, found “no evidence of a meaningful relationship between exposure to the Russian foreign influence campaign and changes in attitudes, polarization, or voting behavior” among those who had been exposed to it.
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I think millions of Americans voted for Trump because they couldn't stand Hillary and thought she should have already gone away. It's hilarious she's responsible for facking the Democratic party. The all time gift thrown away by HFC and her obsessive desire for power
 
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