President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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LouderVol said:
you are going through a lot of twisting to avoid calling them "dumb" outright. how does it make it any better to say they have a lower IQ than to say they are dumb? Both are insults. if anything you are doubly insulting them because your cleaned up insult can exploit how dumb they are.

not quite the same with the abnormal person vs a person with abnormal qualities, but it creates a similar problem. you are using more words than necessary to obscure that you are saying the same thing.
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I simply do not believe that a person with an abnormality is an abnormal human.
Nor to I believe that a person with a lesser IQ is a lesser human.

You may view it as simply semantics, but it seems to have deeper relevance to me.
 
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C-south said:
Because he hasn’t cured avian flu?
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Ask Hog, he’s the one who said he “called it” that the anti-MAGA posters would be back when Trump screwed up. There’s only one way to interpret that which means you are barking up the wrong tree.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
If you carry about 5-6 sticks on the side and take $150,000 in income in addition to it, that's kind of "rich". If you're talking just income alone, no, it isn't rich
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In another escape to relativism and an effort to not admit to facts that would hurt his logic, he said that he would not call anyone dumb if they were lower on an IQ spectrum. Yet he's called people that and worse in here, usually when he's trying to close out another debate that's gotten away from him.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
In another escape to relativism and an effort to not admit to facts that would hurt his logic, he said that he would not call anyone dumb if they were lower on an IQ spectrum. Yet he's called people that and worse in here, usually when he's trying to close out another debate that's gotten away from him.
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Ok. Again, it's your opinion he's not measuring up in the debate. That's fine and perfectly acceptable, but it's in a forum where the deck is stacked really high against him, ideologically wise, AND Trump Republican wise
 
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luthervol said:
I simply do not believe that a person with an abnormality is an abnormal human.
Nor to I believe that a person with a lesser IQ is a lesser human.

You may view it as simply semantics, but it seems to have deeper relevance to me.
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No one is saying anyone is "lesser". They're saying that they are abnormal. This may help:

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The logic that you took issue with is that:

No fingers for a human is unusual/different/abnormal for humans. No one said that they are lesser. Nothing in the definition says that 'lesser' should be inferred from its usage.

Your "to me" relativity aside, that's the plain English having been used, and obvious definition of the word that you are trying to redefine.
 
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