President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[SpaceCoastVol]

If you are not a citizen but are allowed to be in the United States, you are a guest. The US does not owe you a guarantee of a lifetime residency. You can be asked to leave at any time.
Try this, go to Germany on a work or student visa and then take part in a neo Nazi protest. You will be on a flight home faster than you can say Auf Wiedersehen

Yeah but we are supposed to take in all the scum from the rest of the planet without question

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Russian red?

Well since Trump is a Russian agent and all....

 

[hog88]

The whole thing is F’ed

Yes it is

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

100% agree but birthright citizenship as we know it needs to end along with allowing dual citizenship.

Absolutely. Dual citizenship is something I have never understood.. We allow people to come here and retain their allegiance to their former country, but if I want to go to another country and become a citizen I have to renounce my American citizenship. Blatant double standard.

 

[hog88]

So you want to deport Elon Musk. We finally agree on something.

Are you a mental patient with access to the internet? You must be to get that idiot take from my post.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Are you a mental patient with access to the internet? You must be to get that idiot take from my post.

You have read his body of work. I don't think he has said one intelligent thing since his first post.

 

[hog88]

You have read his body of work. I don't think he has said one intelligent thing since his first post.

I tagged you with a question in the OT thread.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I tagged you with a question in the OT thread.

I'll go find it

 

[EasternVol]

If you are not a citizen but are allowed to be in the United States, you are a guest. The US does not owe you a guarantee of a lifetime residency. You can be asked to leave at any time.
Try this, go to Germany on a work or student visa and then take part in a neo Nazi protest. You will be on a flight home faster than you can say Auf Wiedersehen

That neonazi protest in Germany would be illegal. What crime has the candidate deportee committed here?

 

[EasternVol]

Ironic comment is ironic.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That neonazi protest in Germany would be illegal. What crime has the candidate deportee committed here?

So the Germans don't believe in free speech. Got it. That makes the foreign national coming in here and stirring up hate and discontent acceptable. Yeah. Everybody should be subject to the protections of our Constitution. Hopefully Al Quaida and ISIS and whatever Johnny Jihad organization will be able to take advantage of that as well. Let's just do away with visas and borders while we are at it.

 

[BreatheUT]

They literally had a bipartisan bill that he killed to keep it in chaos to use for his election campaign.

Repeat a lie long enough......

 

[EasternVol]

Ya, me too, but what have you seen in the last 20 years that makes you think the next guy from either team will be any different than what we are currently seeing?

Hope springs eternal.

 

[swampfoxfan]

This is year zero. Day one start Jan 20, 2026.

I guess so, is recession good now?

 

[EasternVol]

So the Germans don't believe in free speech. Got it. That makes the foreign national coming in here and stirring up hate and discontent acceptable. Yeah. Everybody should be subject to the protections of our Constitution. Hopefully Al Quaida and ISIS and whatever Johnny Jihad organization will be able to take advantage of that as well. Let's just do away with visas and borders while we are at it.

Overreact much?

 

[swampfoxfan]

Let’s make it simple …..

If I am buying a product and one costs more (because it has a tariff) and one is less because it is manufactured in the US so there is no tariff. If I buy the US product, I am not paying the tariff.

Additionally, it is not forced like property TAX, income TAX, and sales TAX.

Buy a toaster made in America, buy a pair of shoes or socks made in America. Buy fresh lettuce in January grown in America.

Not forced if you decide to do without shoes or fresh food

America who's income is below the poverty level spenda much higher % of income on necessities of life, there is no real choice to buy higher priced products. Wealthier Americans are less affected .

 

[swampfoxfan]

100% agree but birthright citizenship as we know it needs to end along with allowing dual citizenship.

I'm sure native Americans would agree but back date the ammendment 300 years.

 

[luthervol]

Repeat a lie long enough......

bannon/stone/manafort/trump 101

 

[BreatheUT]

bannon/stone/manafort/trump 101

I was thinking more Goebbels and the Boshevik Revolution common to marxists.

 

[luthervol]

I was thinking more Goebbels and the Boshevik Revolution common to marxists.

Sure....but it was a prominent plank it the bannon/stone/manafort/trump campaign in 2016.
It was one of Stone's basic rules.
Goebbels would have certainly admired how well trump used his techniques.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

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In reality, when a tariff is imposed on a commodity like steel or aluminum, domestic firms generally just raise their prices proportionately - or slightly less - and simply reap the benefit of higher margins. Why wouldn't they? Who pays for that? We consumers do. And this is obviously inflationary in nature.

It's a zero-sum game. Potentially negative overall, in fact.

Further, this is going to come to roost in Tennessee. Firms like Jack Daniels have already been caught up in the trade war. The EU just set a date for the imposition of an additional 50% tariff on liquor imported from the US. This will definitely cause a major loss in sales for JD... just like it did when the same thing happened during Trump's first term.

This is why most economists agree that most tariffs simply don't work.

Respect your position…..why did it work so well under Trump’s first term? Tariff‘s were a centerpiece of his strong economy.

 

[McDad]

I guess so, is recession good now?

"Year zero" is a joke which goes back to the Dooley and Butch years.

I hate it for others but recession is great for me.

 

[Majors]

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If you do not view that as pathetic, you just might be a trumper.

You voted for Kamala who wasn’t the elected nominee. Not sure you need to use the term pathetic at this point.

 

[Orange_Crush]

They do not however enjoy a right to be here without the permission of our government. A green card is a privilege, NOT a right.

SCOTUS has ruled that once they have a green card, they enjoy every constitutional right as US citizens (including explicitly the same free speech rights), except where explicitly limited by immigration law. So to deport, they have to have a valid reason beyond what he says at a protest--unless that speech is not covered--i.e. harassment, incitement to violence, etc...

They can, however deport him for other reasons like promoting a foreign terrorist group (especially one that has US hostages right now), or promoting a group that has documented its purpose as the destruction of western civilization, which his group actually defines themselves by.

There seems to be lots of possible ways to get rid of him, but it has to be within the structure of our laws and constitution.

 

[VOLS INC.]

You voted for Kamala who wasn’t the elected nominee. Not sure you need to use the term pathetic at this point.

He was completely fine with democracy being turned upside down by a presidential candidate being installed because of polls. He’s such a joke. He has no shame. He just hates Trump and whatever it takes to stop Trump is a righteous act in his warped little brain. Clearly a dangerous position to take.