President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

Lets play a mental exercise game. Hypothetically, what if the Russians are not going in like bulls in a china shop and wrecking havoc all over the place, but are going in and trying to maintain civil services (water, electricity, gas, hospitals, etc)? What if they are moving in methodically and doing their best to not break any eggs because they have no interest in destroying or rebuilding Ukraine? They could easily pull a shock and awe like attack and level the entire place and create a humanitarian catastrophe, but that isn't necessarily happening right now.
This has been debunked, the realities on the ground in besieged cities is all the evidence needed. It's bullshat.
 
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm pointing out that they have cornered themselves into no other reasonable option but to increase domestic output. All other reasonable import options are closing up... or they could lift these sanctions and try real diplomacy for a change. If they can humble themselves to go to Iran, Maduro and the Saudis, then he could do the same with Putin and Lavrov and work out a resolution to this entire mess.
Diplomacy? In order for there to be real discussion the gun must be lowered first. There is no diplomacy without a cease fire and de-escalation.

You call for diplomacy from the west but excuse Russia for unilaterally invading a neighbor. Do you not see how illogical that stance is?
 
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm pointing out that they have cornered themselves into no other reasonable option but to increase domestic output. All other reasonable import options are closing up... or they could lift these sanctions and try real diplomacy for a change. If they can humble themselves to go to Iran, Maduro and the Saudis, then he could do the same with Putin and Lavrov and work out a resolution to this entire mess.

Better yet, Biden could try his hand with domestic oil producers. I did see a day ago that at $110/barrel that some shale producers are considering working again. We'd have said at one time things like "bless their hearts" and "that's mighty white of them" ... but some of that's probably too racist now. I'll have to admit this one time on this one topic that there's some blame for prices that don't have to do with the idiot in the WH. Too bad the oil industry is too concentrated, consumers are bent over a barrel (petroleum need is too inelastic), and consumers can't use their own side of the supply and demand equation.
 
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Better yet, Biden could try his hand with domestic oil producers. I did see a day ago that at $110/barrel that some shale producers are considering working again. We'd have said at one time things like "bless their hearts" and "that's mighty white of them" ... but some of that's probably too racist now. I'll have to admit this one time on this one topic that there's some blame for prices that don't have to do with the idiot in the WH. Too bad the oil industry is too concentrated, consumers are bent over a barrel (petroleum need is too inelastic), and consumers can't use their own side of the supply and demand equation.
The reason that U.S. shale producers aren't already producing more is that they know that whenever their increased production is no longer politically convenient for the idiot-in-chief, he will pull the rug out from under them again. You can't make multiple year investments when you're dealing with an administration that is openly hostile to your very existence.
 
You call for diplomacy from the west but excuse Russia for unilaterally invading a neighbor. Do you not see how illogical that stance is?
They got that from the US.

Also, you continue to ignore the Ukrainian govt attacking ethnic Russians since 2014 and not abiding by the Minsk II ceasefire agreements.
 
The reason that U.S. shale producers aren't already producing more is that they know that whenever their increased production is no longer politically convenient for the idiot-in-chief, he will pull the rug out from under them again. You can't make multiple year investments when you're dealing with an administration that is openly hostile to your very existence.
That is interesting. Never considered that angle. Seems logical.
 
They got that from the US.

Also, you continue to ignore the Ukrainian govt attacking ethnic Russians since 2014 and not abiding by the Minsk II ceasefire agreements.
You also ignore the ethnic Russians taking up arms against the government, that doesn't fly anywhere in the world with no response.
 
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I am tired of all this blame game regarding gas prices and inflation...we can argue to the cows come home. Biden...you may of been dealt a bad hand but you wanted the job.
Moving beyond this, We are where we are, so what are the solutions? No rhetoric will overcome what people see with their daily livelihoods.
 
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They got that from the US.

Also, you continue to ignore the Ukrainian govt attacking ethnic Russians since 2014 and not abiding by the Minsk II ceasefire agreements.
You mean the same ethnic russians who brought their tanks from the motherland, and lead an armed revolt against Ukraine, and also didnt abide by the Minsk agreement?
 
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