President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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luthervol said:
lol....
I understand the definition.

Just because someone uses the word "probably" in no way means the subject was actually probable.

I saw something in the woods, it was probably Bigfoot..

Does that mean it was probably Bigfoot?
Does that mean I actually truly believe it was probably Bigfoot?
Would the fact that I had been eating mushrooms all day factor in?
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She didn’t imagine the showers with her father.

Or wait - do you believe she imagined the showers with her father?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
It was a 30 year oldwo.en dealing with trauma to explain why she is hypersexual, an addict, and id you read her diary you'd realize that she uses sex to gain favor from men..( I believe she even mentions that with regards to Joe, but I'll verify). So the fact that showering with her father was "probably" inappropriate from the view point of an older women reflecting tell you it wasn't appropriate.
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We simply disagree.
 
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McDad said:
Both with and without clothes. Once they were able to stand securely, I would wash them without being in shower with them.

The age at which children should stop being exposed to mommy and daddy undressed is when the child exhibits modesty.
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The thought of bathing with either kid just never crossed my mind however I agree with you. Diaper blowouts just led to me getting wet when it was too cold for the garden hose.
 
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luthervol said:
If you ask your 4 year old kid if he brushed his teeth and he says "probably", it means he probably did not.

If the cop asks the driver he just pulled over if he is sober, and the driver says "probably", it means he is probably not.

She was brainstorming possible explanations during a stream of consciousness, had it been inappropriate she would have gone into more detail.....it would have deserved far more reflection than one simple vague sentence.
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In both of those scenarios the subject is lying to avoid.

Who was Ashley Biden lying to in her personal diary she never expected anyone else to read?
 
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85SugarVol said:
Except she didn’t say “probably not inappropriate”.
She said “probably inappropriate”.

Your original line of attack on Biden showering with his adolescent daughter was a much better case.

Much more reasonable and rational than trying to say “probably” somehow equates to “not likely”.
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I know what she said and I've told you my interpretation and I've given you multiple examples of when "probably" means probably not.

And what original line of attack?

My line of attack has always been IT DEPENDS ON HOW OLD SHE WAS.

In the absence of that knowledge (she could have easily given her age - if she remembers), I'll stick with my interpretation.
 
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luthervol said:
I know what she said and I've told you my interpretation and I've given you multiple examples of when "probably" means probably not.

And what original line of attack?

My line of attack has always been IT DEPENDS ON HOW OLD SHE WAS.

In the absence of that knowledge (she could have easily given her age - if she remembers), I'll stick with my interpretation.
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There's no reason to "interpret" anything. Just take her at her word. Why not just take her at her word as written?
 
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85SugarVol said:
In both of those scenarios the subject is lying to avoid.

Who was Ashley Biden lying to in her personal diary she never expected anyone else to read?
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Possibly herself. She is trying to come up with answers as to why she is the way she is - and is looking for external reasons.
I see people blaming personal character flaws on external sources all the time....sometimes it's simply a comforting copout.
And the guy who was pulled over knows he has been drinking but could honestly be hoping that he is not drunk.
 
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Sea Ray said:
There's no reason to "interpret" anything. Just take her at her word. Why not just take her at her word as written?
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lol
Back to the starting point.

Most nuts on here think Biden is guilty of inappropriate behavior.

Why don't they take her at her word as written?

I never see them qualify their statement with the word "probably". They totally INTERPRET guilt.

At least try to be consistent.
 
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ButchPlz said:
...and it remains a place that exists, that was populated by a group of people. Would you rather me have used, say, Tennessee as an example? Tennessee isn't real because it wasn't a country? What about Appalachia? Are people of Appalachian culture just making it up? They must not be real either. Just saying something is "not real" doesn't solve anything and is a lazy ass way to look at the problem.

The reality is that as the UN agreements in 1948 at the end of the British Mandate (over what they called Palestine as well) created the "country" as we have it today. They also created the current nation state of Israel, which has almost nothing to do with the historical kingdoms of Israel (and at that time was populated almost entirely by Arabs). If they were both created out of the same UN agreement, how can one be real and one be "not real"? Are the modern Israelis entitled to the entire territory of the historical kingdom? Why?
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People treat them as though they are not entitled to a home anywhwere. Why? This is also the region biblically called Canaan that God served up to the Israelites/Jews as a homeland. In biblical history 'Israel' was God's name for his people that had no home, until he gave them Canaan.

Appalachia, like Palestine (land of the Philistines) is a geographic identity, not a state or nation, or nation state. Cultures will exist and vary. Tennessee is an established political state within a greater collection of politcal states comprising an organinized politcal country.

Ethnically indigenous Palestinians (Philistines) were neither Arab or Jewish. They settled in the area known as Gaza, and there is no historical evidence of where they came from.

As far as historical facts however, it stills remains that there has never been an established nation/political state of Palestine. Only a geogrphic region called Palestine, also known as Israel or Canaan, where the geo-political nation of Israel can be found. Much like within Appalachia you will find "parts" of Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, etc., etc.

To "free Palestine" would also mean to free the Jews that live in that region.
 
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luthervol said:
lol
Back to the starting point.

Most nuts on here think Biden is guilty of inappropriate behavior.

Why don't they take her at her word as written?

I never see them qualify their statement with the word "probably". They totally INTERPRET guilt.

At least try to be consistent.
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What she wrote is that he showered with her at a young age and that it probably was not appropriate. Whether that contributed to her issues, I don't know but he DID shower with her and I agree with her that it was inappropriate. As a father of a daughter, I'd never do that at any age
 
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