President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

[85SugarVol]

I have absolutely no desire......but you feel free

Keep in mind that you are talking about a 3 year old who saw his mom and little sister die as he received multiple serious injuries.
Keep in mint that you are talking about a 2 year old who received severe head injuries as he witnessed his mom and little sister die.

Or feel free to completely discount the short and long term effects of that type of childhood trauma.
It's sadly hilarious how many will point to the alleged childhood trauma that Ashley endured as rationale for why she is the way she is as they point the finger of blame at her father.
Yet those same morons say nothing about the horrific trauma Beau and Hunter endured while completely discounting any effects that may have had on their mental and emotional health as adults.

I expect that from a lot of posters, but for some reason I had assumed you were above that.
Live and learn.

A 2 and 3 year old probably wouldn’t remember that.

 

[ButchPlz]

I was thinking a bit more on this concept of president's kids.
Based on the public knowledge of the kids, every president's kids have turned out better than Bidens.
Trump
Obama
Bush
Clinton
Bush
Reagan
Carter
Ford
Nixon

Joe's had some bad luck with kids and everyone else has had good luck or something else is going on.

If this isn't in a continuum image I can't understand it.

 

[luthervol]

Thought i was talking about adult kids of presidents. For me, the children even in college, are off limits.

I understand you better now. You simply made the wrong judgement. Happens to many...some more than others.

WTH???????
Please stop digging.
How many on here talked about the alleged CHILDHOOD trauma of Ashley, and said that trauma led to her having the difficulties she has had as an adult?

How many on here have talked about Hunter's difficulties without ever mentioning once the far greater trauma we know he endured? Plus the unknown long tern effects of the severe head injury.

 

[luthervol]

A 2 and 3 year old probably wouldn’t remember that.

WHAT????????????????????
Please tell me you guys aren't that dumb.

 

[McDad]

If this isn't in a continuum image I can't understand it.

That's fair. Which kids of presidents seem to be well adjusted folks, making good decisions with good judgement?
From left to right (well adjusted to poorly adjusted)
Carter, Nixon, Ford, Clinton, Bush 1, Obama, Reagan, Bush 2, Trump, ........................Biden.

Does this help?

 

[McDad]

WTH???????
Please stop digging.
How many on here talked about the alleged CHILDHOOD trauma of Ashley, and said that trauma led to her having the difficulties she has had as an adult?

How many on here have talked about Hunter's difficulties without ever mentioning once the far greater trauma we know he endured? Plus the unknown long tern effects of the severe head injury.

I don't know the answers.

I thought a new discussion about them now was warranted because those discussions were rehashed.

I've known people who medicate with recreational drugs. I think my brother did that to an extent. Do you think Hunter smokes crack because he has brain damage?

 

[volinbham]

WHAT????????????????????
Please tell me you guys aren't that dumb.

I believe it's a diary reference

 

[McDad]

I believe it's a diary reference

 

[luthervol]

Here's a continuum you can overlay the other one with

Childhood trauma suffered. From left to right (little to massive)

Carter,
Obama,
Nixon,
Ford,
Bush,
Clinton,
Bush 1,............Reagan..........................Trump........................................................................................................................... Biden

 

[Majors]

I'm sure this will not go over well, but who cares.

If my children were forced to spend a week at either the Biden's or the Trump's, I would unequivocally choose the Biden's.

But this is a really dumb hypothetical.

Showers and cocaine

 

[luthervol]

I don't know the answers.

I thought a new discussion about them now was warranted because those discussions were rehashed.

I've known people who medicate with recreational drugs. I think my brother did that to an extent. Do you think Hunter smokes crack because he has brain damage?

I think there is no way of knowing.
But refusing to acknowledge or completely discounting the possibility is simple minded at best.

 

[luthervol]

Showers and cocaine

Dumb and dumber

 

[McDad]

I think there is no way of knowing.
But refusing to acknowledge or completely discounting the possibility is simple minded at best.

It might explain why he makes really poor decisions...like having an affair with his dead brother's widow.

If you say there is no way of knowing, why are you so adamant to connect the brain damage and his decision making?

 

[hog88]

It might explain why he makes really poor decisions...like having an affair with his dead brother's widow.

If you say there is no way of knowing, why are you so adamant to connect the brain damage and his decision making?

Because he doesn't support Biden.

 

[Majors]

Dumb and dumber

Hell of a way to describe your kids. Does one go by Lloyd and the other Harry?

 

[luthervol]

It might explain why he makes really poor decisions...like having an affair with his dead brother's widow.

If you say there is no way of knowing, why are you so adamant to connect the brain damage and his decision making?

I am far less adamant to connect than you guys are adamant to ignore.

But the angle is clear.

You're really having a bad day.

 

[McDad]

I am far less adamant to connect than you guys are adamant to ignore.

But the angle is clear.

You're really having a bad day.

Have Biden's kids had a harder, more unfortunate upbringing than the kids from Nixon through Trump?

 

[LouderVol]

I am far less adamant to connect than you guys are adamant to ignore.

But the angle is clear.

You're really having a bad day.

whats the argument they were only traumatized when the bad stuff happened, but weren't traumatized when they were going thru and getting degrees or accomplishing the things you listed due to the parenting they received?

and its not like these results are specific to trauma. Affluenza covers most their problems too.

 

[volinbham]

I am far less adamant to connect than you guys are adamant to ignore.

But the angle is clear.

You're really having a bad day.

No basis for this claim but it's what you always do.

Now if we are to link all childhood experiences to what you become as an adult then what you labeled a stupid comment (my joke about Biden's drunk driving lie) must also be factored in. To take a tragic accident and explain it away by blaming a innocent victim would have to have some impact on how Hunter interprets the world and why he's a victim of other's wrong doing rather than just an unlucky person.

 

[DC_Vol]

Wow. This is a new low for Luth. So much gymnastics to keep the worldview intact.

 

[McDad]

Wow. This is a new low for Luth. So much gymnastics to keep the worldview intact.

The crazy part is I didn't go down this path to attack his, or anyone's, world view. It was an impromptu post about presidents and their kids which got the ball rolling. And the more I considered Biden's kids, the worse it looks. It isn't an R or D thing, either. I think there have been great parents from both parties.

I think what may be the hardest for Luther and some others is that Trump's kids seem to trump Biden's kids. That's got to be a very large, bitter pill to swallow. It doesn't have to be. But some make it so.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yep....

 

[McDad]

Yep....

He's fine. Nothing to see here.

 

[luthervol]

Have Biden's kids had a harder, more unfortunate upbringing than the kids from Nixon through Trump?

The trauma suffered by Beau and Hunter is immeasurably greater than anything experienced by the others.
And the effects of a severe head injury on a two year old are unknowable.

 

[luthervol]

whats the argument they were only traumatized when the bad stuff happened, but weren't traumatized when they were going thru and getting degrees or accomplishing the things you listed due to the parenting they received?

and its not like these results are specific to trauma. Affluenza covers most their problems too.

Your question makes no sense.
Trauma can manifest itself in multiple ways, both positive and negative.

My point is that the nuts on here screaming one thing about Ashley while ignoring the far more significant implications for Hunter are simple minded at best, and blatantly biased P'sOS at worst.