Probably gonna get roasted for this, but.....

#76
#76
Who has the most quarters not being scored on?

You're correct there: 1939 Tennessee went 41 quarters before being scored on by USC in the second quarter of the Rose Bowl. So that would be the answer.

There were a couple of teams like 1919 Texas A&M that had a perfect 10-0, unscored on regular season, but didn't play in a bowl, so they couldn't have matched UT on that note.
 
#77
#77
You're correct there: 1939 Tennessee went 41 quarters before being scored on by USC in the second quarter of the Rose Bowl. So that would be the answer.

There were a couple of teams like 1919 Texas A&M that had a perfect 10-0, unscored on regular season, but didn't play in a bowl, so they couldn't have matched UT on that note.

With 30 quarters the year before, we went 71 quarters without an opponent scoring a point.
 
#79
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With 30 quarters the year before, we went 71 quarters without an opponent scoring a point.

Oh, well then that's still not the longest:

Texas A&M went 74 quarters between 1918 and 1920 without being scored on, from the first quarter of the last game of 1918, all 10 games in 1919, the first seven games of 1920, until the 2nd quarter of the eighth game, where they wound up surrendering a touchdown in the 3rd quarter.

4+40+28+2 = 74

There may be another long scoreless streak. I only had that one top of mind because I looked it up earlier for the unscored on 1919 team.

Though, for the sake of accuracy, A&M did play to a 0-0 tie against LSU in 1920, so Tennessee's streak is longer as far as unscored on with an unblemished record.
 
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With 30 quarters the year before, we went 71 quarters without an opponent scoring a point.

Wait, volly, your math isn't adding up.

Tennessee won their last 5 games without giving up a score in 1938: that's 20 quarters.

Then 40 quarters in the '39 regular season.

Then the first quarter of the Rose Bowl.

That's only 61. Or am I seeing something wrong?
 
#81
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Sources or "message boards and blogs?"

Whatever you'd like. We're talking opinions, so we could find polls from all over the place.

Let's not get confused here...

Who is the better coach? That's an opinion.

Is a quote real or not? That's not an opinion.
 
#82
#82
I think the key phrase here is "modern era" Not taking anything away fromA&M, but whenever I've seen UTs streak mentioned it always says modern era.
 
#83
#83
Here's a bammer education for you:

"You can't prove a negative."
-1 + -1 = -2

Negatives are proven every day in some of your better 6th grade math classes.

"You can't triple stamp a double stamp Lloyd! Lloooooooyd! You can't triple stamp a double stamp!"
 
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#84
I think the key phrase here is "modern era" Not taking anything away fromA&M, but whenever I've seen UTs streak mentioned it always says modern era.

I'm not sure what constitutes the "modern era". Football in 1939 was not all that different from football in 1919. From the advent of the forward pass until the two platoon system, the game didn't change all that much, other than the helmets.
 
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#85
Whatever you'd like. We're talking opinions, so we could find polls from all over the place.

Let's not get confused here...

Who is the better coach? That's an opinion.

Is a quote real or not? That's not an opinion.

Neyland win percentage .829. 6 undefeated seasons and 4 National Titles in 21 seasons.

Bryant win percentage .780. 4 undefeated seasons and 6 National Titles in 38 seasons.

Not opinion.
 
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#86
Wait, volly, your math isn't adding up.

Tennessee won their last 5 games without giving up a score in 1938: that's 20 quarters.

Then 40 quarters in the '39 regular season.

Then the first quarter of the Rose Bowl.

That's only 61. Or am I seeing something wrong?

Bama math is different. Maybe that's it.
 
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#87
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Neyland win percentage .829. 6 undefeated seasons and 4 National Titles in 21 seasons.

Bryant win percentage .780. 4 undefeated seasons and 6 National Titles in 38 seasons.

Not opinion.

Neyland didn't win 4 national championships, so there's your first problem. Tennessee did not win a national title in 1940, despite what the media guide says.

Bryant had 7 undefeated and untied regular seasons, which is a more accurate comparison since Neyland only coached 7 bowls in his entire career (2-5 by the way). And Neyland only managed to accomplish an unblemished regular season 4 times.
 
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I'm not sure what constitutes the "modern era". Football in 1939 was not all that different from football in 1919. From the advent of the forward pass until the two platoon system, the game didn't change all that much, other than the helmets.

Yeah, there's not really a definitive answer. Some say with the advent of the forward pass. Others say, when passing became more popular in the 1930s due to rule changes.
 
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#89
From a 1998 SI article
By the 1939 game against Alabama, the Vols were also on their way to setting two NCAA records that may never be broken: They would hold their opponents scoreless through 17 straight regular-season games and 71 consecutive quarters, from the second quarter of the game against LSU on Oct. 29, 1938, to me first quarter of the game against the Crimson Tide on Oct. 19, 1940. Tennessee was also in the midst of what could turn out to be the last unflawed regular season in college football, a campaign in which the Vols went undefeated, untied and unscored upon. They won their 10 regular-season games in '39 by a combined score of 212-0.

Of all that these Volunteers are remembered for, however, nothing remotely approaches the drama that ensued on Oct. 21 when the 5'10", 160-pound Butler, playing tailback in Tennessee's single-wing offense, took the snap from Norbert Ackerman on the Tennessee 44-yard line. Butler took off left and swept toward the corner, chasing his blocking back, Ike Peel, as Peel dropped his shoulder and flattened Alabama end Gene Blackwell. Butler crossed the 50, cut suddenly right and raced across the field to the other sideline, the hands of Tide defenders grabbing at him as he went. At the 40-yard line defensive halfback Jimmy Nelson reached for him but missed, whereupon Butler turned back toward the middle of the gridiron. He feinted, stopped, swiveled and spun away from All-America tackle Fred Davis and several other defenders. Then there was Mosley, awaiting him near the 30. Butler sprinted straight at him, faked right, cut left. "I leaned, and the little pissant cut back right again!" Mosley says. "He cut twice on me! Fooled me."

Butler blew past Mosley, and as he got to the 20, he danced in front of Nelson, who had raced back into the play, until Peel reappeared and cut Nelson down. Loose at last, Butler raced the final 20 yards to score and put the Vols ahead 6-0. He sprawled on his back in the end zone, breathing great gulps of air, as the Tennessee trainer rushed to his side and jubilant fans came out of the stands and danced around the uprights.

It was officially a 56-yard gallop, but most observers believe Butler went at least twice that far. "It must have taken the better part of three minutes," recalls Ed Cifers, a Volunteers end from 1938 to '40. "Everybody on the club had a shot at knocking somebody down. It was quite a spectacle."
 
#90
#90
Bama math is different. Maybe that's it.

Every single moment of my math learnin' was done in the great state of Tennessee.

In all seriousness, I'm willing to accept that I'm reading results incorrectly. But I only see 61 quarters. Not that that isn't incredibly impressive.
 
#91
#91
Neyland didn't win 4 national championships, so there's your first problem. Tennessee did not win a national title in 1940, despite what the media guide says.

Bryant had 7 undefeated and untied regular seasons, which is a more accurate comparison since Neyland only coached 7 bowls in his entire career (2-5 by the way). And Neyland only managed to accomplish an unblemished regular season 4 times.

Ok man, I was with you up until this. Everyone knows that there were much fewer bowls back then and they were looked at completely different as far as importance of winning
 
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It will always be impossible to ever know who was actually the greatest to ever coach. There is just too many stipulations to apply to each coach. The only thing to say is how historically important each was to their school. With that said Neyland will always be the greatest to me for what he done for UT and more importantly what he done for our country with his service (He stopped coaching to go to war twice while at UT.). Name another coach ever in any sport to go 31-2 and be named national champs in their sport in 3 seasons and then leave to go to war, then when he was done winning a World War he comes back and has 2 more teams named national champs. The definition of greatness should be a picture of General Neyland.
 
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Ok man, I was with you up until this. Everyone knows that there were much fewer bowls back then and they were looked at completely different as far as importance of winning

True. That's why I took the bowl out of Bryant's record so that we were comparing apples-to-apples.

I'm giving Neyland credit for 4 unblemished seasons even though he lost bowl games after three of them.
 
#95
#95
True. That's why I took the bowl out of Bryant's record so that we were comparing apples-to-apples.

I'm giving Neyland credit for 4 unblemished seasons even though he lost bowl games after three of them.

To be fair, Neyland only coached 20 seasons. Bryant coached 37 I believe
 
#98
#98
Bama numbers......never gets old.

The way I see it, the years 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 38 (Neyland's undefeated seasons) equal six - not 4....but no on ever accused a bammer of having adequate math skills.

Also, it's funny to see a bammer talking about how another team's title "doesn't count". By your knowledge, since UT's '40 didn't count because they lost the bowl, Alabama's '64 doesn't count (L orange bowl) nor does '73 count (L sugar bowl).
 
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