Proof of the election fraud

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whodeycin85 said:
Lets see citizens had more money per household, inflations was at a lowest, we were energy independent, he support the 2nd amendment, and no wars....biden...no longer energy independant, inflation up, already starting trouble in middle east, no respect from Putin or Kim Jong..CNN is brainwashing you
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I don't watch CNN and you're picking random points in time to claim victory. He handed out $2T and promised more while also running trillion dollar deficits. Inflation was coming. He actually did limit 2a yet gets a surprising pass for it from the right. His immigration stance was the Trump border wall monument that did next to nothing. There was no reform

What was the state of the US when he left office? He enabled Biden to get elected which could be his biggest blunder. He just needed to be semi-competent but couldn't pull it off
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't watch CNN and you're picking random points in time to claim victory. He handed out $2T and promised more while also running trillion dollar deficits. Inflation was coming. He actually did limit 2a yet gets a surprising pass for it from the right. His immigration stance was the Trump border wall monument that did next to nothing. There was no reform

What was the state of the US when he left office?
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How much is immigration up?? Trump got plenty of **** for bump stock
.but never did he want to take away guns or people right to own them...stricter background checks yup agree with that.we are always running a defiect....biden already has handed out 4T and wants another 10T while not ptoducing goods...free money with no products means inflation


We will agree to disagree
 
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whodeycin85 said:
How much is immigration up?? Trump got plenty of **** for bump stock
.but never did he want to take away guns or people right to own them...stricter background checks yup agree with that.we are always running a defiect....biden already has handed out 4T and wants another 10T while not ptoducing goods...free money with no products means inflation


We will agree to disagree
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You wrongly dismiss Trump's actions because of Biden. It's a ridiculous argument. Trump was a disaster who spent like a drunk democrat and even promised more. We were headed this way regardless
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Lets see citizens had more money per household, inflations was at a lowest, we were energy independent, he support the 2nd amendment, and no wars....biden...no longer energy independant, inflation up, already starting trouble in middle east, no respect from Putin or Kim Jong..CNN is brainwashing you
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I don't watch CNN.

I see you couldn't list specific rights you've lost.
 
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utvolpj said:
You wrongly dismiss Trump's actions because of Biden. It's a ridiculous argument. Trump was a disaster who spent like a drunk democrat and even promised more. We were headed this way regardless
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Trump added 6.8T to defiect in 4 years..biden in on pace for 3T his first year
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't watch CNN and you're picking random points in time to claim victory. He handed out $2T and promised more while also running trillion dollar deficits. Inflation was coming. He actually did limit 2a yet gets a surprising pass for it from the right. His immigration stance was the Trump border wall monument that did next to nothing. There was no reform

What was the state of the US when he left office? He enabled Biden to get elected which could be his biggest blunder. He just needed to be semi-competent but couldn't pull it off
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Thanks, didnt even need to respond to him.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
If Trump/Desantis get in...I bet they will..eitber thru sanctions or pressure on trade goods
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I would hope so, but to be honest there's only so much you can accomplish in that manner if you don't have other sources for goods. Globalists royally screwed us over because you don't just recreate industries overnight, and certainly industry won't if the next administration is likely to sell out again to globalism.
 
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AM64 said:
I would hope so, but to be honest there's only so much you can accomplish in that manner if you don't have other sources for goods. Globalists royally screwed us over because you don't just recreate industries overnight, and certainly industry won't if the next administration is likely to sell out again to globalism.
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You are correct u fortunately it may not be the first 4 years as they try to indo and rebuild what Was messed up...hopefully the next we can start throwing our weight around again instead of hiding in the corner
 
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whodeycin85 said:
You are correct u fortunately it may not be the first 4 years as they try to indo and rebuild what Was messed up...hopefully the next we can start throwing our weight around again instead of hiding in the corner
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It will require a hard look at what's been sacred - the cost of US labor. Government and unions pumped that without ever considering where it put us competitively in the world. If the government continues to rule in such a way that unions always have the upper hand against corporations and set non-competitive minimum wages, we'll be right back in or never get out of this mess.
 
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This lady is going through every state and analyzing all of the election data. Here is some interesting data from SC here. Not necessarily proof but some data that definitely will make you go hmm.


 
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whodeycin85 said:
Trump added 6.8T to defiect in 4 years..biden in on pace for 3T his first year
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* You are conflating the "debt" with budget "deficits". They are not the same thing. A deficit is a budget shortfall, whereas debt is the current running total of deficits and surpluses.

* You also don't seem to understand how the fiscal year calendar works. For example, President Donald Trump took office on January 20, 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget until October 1, 2017, just as President Joe Biden will be operating the first part of his term under President Trump's budget until October 1, 2021. So, in other words, the book isn't closed on Trump just yet.

The best way to measure what Trump contributed to the debt, would be to add his budget deficit of $966 Billion for the 2021 fiscal year to the debt level as of September 30, 2020 (the end of the 2020 fiscal year), which was $26.9T. When you do that ($966B + $26.9T), you come up with $27.86T. You then take that number ($27.86T) and subtract the debt level as of September 30, 2017 ($20.24T). That leaves you with $27.86T - $20.24T = $7.62 Trillion... as a close projection of what the Trump Administration will have added to the debt in their full four years in office.

As far as President Barack Obama is concerned, the debt increase from September 30, 2009 ($11.91T) through September 30, 2017 ($20.24T) was $20.24T - $11.91T = $8.33 Trillion.

So, technically speaking... Yes, Barack Obama did add approximately $710 Billion more than Donald Trump to the debt ... but, Obama also served as the President of the United States for twice as long as Trump did. If Trump had been re-elected, he would have easily passed Obama, with just one more fiscal year. Let's not forget that while running for President in 2016, Donald Trump pledged to eliminate the debt in 8 years. Instead, he added more to the debt than any one term president ever has.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
* You are conflating the "debt" with budget "deficits". They are not the same thing. A deficit is a budget shortfall, whereas debt is the current running total of deficits and surpluses.

* You also don't seem to understand how the fiscal year calendar works. For example, President Donald Trump took office on January 20, 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget until October 1, 2017, just as President Joe Biden will be operating the first part of his term under President Trump's budget until October 1, 2021. So, in other words, the book isn't closed on Trump just yet.

The best way to measure what Trump contributed to the debt, would be to add his budget deficit of $966 billion for the 2021 fiscal year to the debt level as of September 30, 2020 (the end of the 2020 fiscal year), which was $26.9T. When you do that ($966B + $26.9T), you come up with $27.86T. You then take that number ($27.86T) and subtract the debt level as of September 30, 2017 ($20.24T). That leaves you with $27.86T - 20.24T = $7.62 Trillion... as a close projection of what the Trump Administration spent.

As far as President Barack Obama is concerned, the debt increase from September 30, 2009 ($11.91T) through September 30, 2017 ($20.24T) was $20.24T - $11.91T = $8.33 Trillion.

So, technically speaking... Yes, Barack Obama did spend approximately $710 Billion more than Donald Trump ... but, Obama also served as the President of the United States for twice as long as Trump did. If Trump had been re-elected, he would have easily passed Obama, with just one more fiscal year. And let's not forget, while running for President in 2016, Donald Trump absurdly pledged to eliminate the debt in 8 years.
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Obama contributed to 74% of the debt...Trump 33% Obama was right AFTER a recession and Trump was shut down for his last year..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Obama contributed to 74% of the debt...Trump 33% Obama was right AFTER a recession and Trump was shut down for his last year..
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Once again, you are wrong. "The Great Recession" is considered by economists to have run between December of 2007 through June of 2009. Beyond it's duration, the Great Recession had significant impact on economic growth.
 
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