Pruitt & Staff incriminating texts - Fulmer's draft email in November

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Delmar said:
It’s easy to get caught if you are as stupid as this bunch was. The Three Stooges, Abbott and Costello and Laurel and Hardy all rolled up in one seedy ball. Led by Barney Fife.
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Actually with Cornbread’s grammar, he would be Gomer Pyle.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That's exactly why he should be inconspicuous around campus. Yes, it's ok to be there for sporting events, in his seat, but avoiding any publicity. He is from the town I've lived in on and off for the last 55 years. I saw him play in high school and college. No doubt he bleeds orange. His second job was the OL coach for the Vols. He was a GREAT OL COACH. Think about how good our OL was in the mid 1980s. The players he recruited were special. Bruce Wilkerson, Harry Galbreath, Antone Davis, Charles McRae, Mike Stowell, etc........

I was ALL IN on him being HC after Majors. Defended him often in the few years before the national championship. Looking back on it, I know he was a top shelf recruiter. His 2001 team was FREAKING loaded. We won because we had batter players than everyone. The Georgia and LSU losses were somewhat of game management incompetence. I won't even go into 2002-2008
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When Fulmer was fired....which schools tried to hire him as coach? He was a mediocre head coach who had good coaches around him...Cutt specifically. Chavis was good most of the time. Phil was a sucka$$ AD....his greatest accomplishment was bringing us the Beldar Cornbread hillbilly.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Also why the informant felt necessary to go around Fulmer?

In the end even with the penalties it saved the program millions and finally forced us to hire a competent AD.
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Pretty clear the informant did not implicate CPF or she would not have included him throughout the internal investigation and given him the great sendoff. Would have been suicide for her to do so.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
I was really saying

Shouldn't she have "KNOWN" that she was firing him?

By November that should have been a certainty. Especially after the damn Kentucky game.

But I mean of course she wouldn't want to say out loud that she knew she was gonna fire him.
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You're talking as a fan...she had to be more professional and weighted.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I dont buy Phil didnt know either. Not like Phil was squeaky clean in the 90's
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So you think Donde was stupid enough to cover for him and THEN give him a big sendoff? That is a it of a stretch after running with the whistleblower’s hot tips. He would have been on the same bus as the rest that got canned.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
So you think Donde was stupid enough to cover for him and THEN give him a big sendoff? That is a it of a stretch after running with the whistleblower’s hot tips. He would have been on the same bus as the rest that got canned.
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Who says Donde would have known? Phil made a career in the 90's not getting caught. I dont think Donde would have protected him if she had known that Phil had knowledge of any of this.
 
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from a recent article...pruitt states.

There were a number of other allegations, some of which Pruitt denied, including covering medical bills and vehicle down payments for players and families. It was determined that Pruitt and his wife made 75 cash withdrawals of four or five figures from 2018-2020, which he says was nothing new dating back to his time at Alabama.

wonder when the alabama investigation begins?
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
So you think Donde was stupid enough to cover for him and THEN give him a big sendoff? That is a it of a stretch after running with the whistleblower’s hot tips. He would have been on the same bus as the rest that got canned.
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If you fired Fulmer for cause (which you could have based on his contract), that essentially screams "lack of institutional control"

Instead, you negotiated a graceful exit for him, made Pruitt the fall guy, and gave Fulmer enough money where he would be cooperative in the investigation....
 
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Bunch of idiots! My head hurt reading that crap.

Literally, how can you play it that loose?

These are some low level thinkers right here, and this is why I constantly tell everyone, YES IT'S OKAY TO DOUBT coaches.

By trade they're obviously not some intellectual prodigies.
 
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It’s quite apparent that the school administration are the heroes in this situation…most especially Plowman. The football staff and the AD, were the very embodiment of lawless incompetence run-amok. It’s hard for me not to see ill-intent on the part of Pruitt toward the University. Could he be dumb enough to think if Tennessee got in hot water over this stuff that he would skate? I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem out of character.

Plowman deserves a medal for her proactive efforts. And Fulmer should be castigated by Volnation for his handling of Pruitt. At best he was incompetent, and at worst complicit. That’s twice he’s driven the program into the ditch now…both times with a huge buyout.
 
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My favorite: "We trying to do some epic sh!t".

Followed by: “All about the Benjamins”

Shelton Felton.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
It’s quite apparent that the school administration are the heroes in this situation…most especially Plowman. The football staff and the AD, were the very embodiment of lawless incompetence run-amok. It’s hard for me not to see ill-intent on the part of Pruitt toward the University. Could he be dumb enough to think if Tennessee got in hot water over this stuff that he would skate? I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem out of character.

Plowman deserves a medal for her proactive efforts. And Fulmer should be castigated by Volnation for his handling of Pruitt. At best he was incompetent, and at worst complicit. That’s twice he’s driven the program into the ditch now…both times with a huge buyout.
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Agree, I cringe at how this could have played out with someone like Cheek running the show.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
When Fulmer was fired....which schools tried to hire him as coach? He was a mediocre head coach who had good coaches around him...Cutt specifically. Chavis was good most of the time. Phil was a sucka$$ AD....his greatest accomplishment was bringing us the Beldar Cornbread hillbilly.
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This is a point I make often to Fulmer defenders - if he was such a great head coach, why weren't there more programs clamoring for his services after UT showed him the door? He had, what, allegedly maybe kind of an offer from Minnesota? Wasn't there some rumor that Arizona St. was kicking the tires on him? (or am I misremembering this?)

Cutcliffe was terrific. There's a part of me that wonders what might've happened if we'd hired Cutcliffe to replace Fulmer instead of Kiffin. And Fulmer, in the 90s, was a fantastic recruiter, one of the best if not THE best for a brief time. But the bottom line is that UT should have won 3 or 4 natties with the talent we had from, say, 1994-2001, and it took a ton of good fortune for him to even win 1. (everyone talks about the Stoerner fumble and rightfully so, but people sleep on that sketchy PI call that got us past Donovan McNabb and Syracuse in '98.)
 
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DowntownVol said:
This is a point I make often to Fulmer defenders - if he was such a great head coach, why weren't there more programs clamoring for his services after UT showed him the door? He had, what, allegedly maybe kind of an offer from Minnesota? Wasn't there some rumor that Arizona St. was kicking the tires on him? (or am I misremembering this?)

Cutcliffe was terrific. There's a part of me that wonders what might've happened if we'd hired Cutcliffe to replace Fulmer instead of Kiffin. And Fulmer, in the 90s, was a fantastic recruiter, one of the best if not THE best for a brief time. But the bottom line is that UT should have won 3 or 4 natties with the talent we had from, say, 1994-2001, and it took a ton of good fortune for him to even win 1. (everyone talks about the Stoerner fumble and rightfully so, but people sleep on that sketchy PI call that got us past Donovan McNabb and Syracuse in '98.)
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Those that want to feature the fumble in analysis ignore the DOCUMENTED missed call a couple of minutes earlier where we were forced to take a safety instead of the ball inside their 5 on the punt play. Both plays are there for posterity.
 
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