Put a fork in him - Riley Ferguson is DONE. [attempted sarcasm]

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Reality - most likely scenario is Worley as starting QB and either RF or Dobbs playing backup and getting as much time in as possible going for next year. Very few QBs can come in and make that big difference as a freshman (or even as a sophomore). Wish it were different but whichever QB steps up this year should be pretty solid for 2015, which is when all our O and D weapons should start being fully lethal.

For those peeing on Riley's parade - consider that the O/W game was the first time he has ever taken a snap in front of that kind of crowd..and it is intimidating and distracting. My buddy who was 3rd string back in the day did it in the O/W game and promptly fumbled the snap! LOL
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I think a lot of people missed or forgot reports that Dobbs had some issues this spring. The beginning of spring he had fumbling issues. Also reported he was inconsistent with his throws.

Yeah, Dobbs is more experienced than Peterman and Ferguson... but you know how to fix that? Give them playing time.

And when it comes to speed, Ferguson is right behind Dobbs. Fergy isnt slow.

Plus we heard from Butch himself that Ferguson showed the most leadership. Something a lot of yall seem to forget
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I'm not sure RF isn't faster than Dobbs. Not getting in the nanna nanna boo boo stuff but Dobbs isn't that fast at all. I think he would be fine at QB but I wished he were more athletic and better arm strength.
 
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In my opinion that is based on nothing at all except for my own thoughts Worley will be the starter all season unless he gets hurt. If Worley gets hurt either Dobbs or Ferguson will come in. Peterman will probably transfer at some point, knowing that he's not going to rise above 4th string.

Mindblowingly brilliant isn't it?
 
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Other_Guy said:
So what exactly was the point of the thread again lol
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Not the OP, but the point of the thread appears to be that after one practice, now VN has relegated Riley Ferguson to nothing better than Water Boy for the team, and Dobbs is a shoe in for the heisman and will beat bama next year.

I still think Ferguson is the best QB and will end up starting before the end of the season.
 
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GLDunlap said:
How could you possibly know this? Ferguson has never played in a game. Dobbs was a true Freshman but he did throw 6 interceptions before he threw his first touchdown last year.

I have absolutely no preference who the starting QB is. My guess is at least three of them will get quality snaps this season regardless of who starts against USU.
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UT coaches and practice observers have been reporting all Spring that Riley Ferguson's been throwing a lot of interceptions. Of course it's always relayed with the silver lining that Ferguson plays with an aggressive "gunslinger" mentality and shows the best arm strength of the four QBs, but the fact remains that he is turnover prone. His showing in the Orange and White game - especially his fumble on a front-side sack from our second-team D-Line that he tried to run away from - just confirmed the observations we've heard about his game all Spring.
 
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f77f00 said:
I think you can count on sub par play from whoever we start at QB. I am not excited any of our choices right now.

Worley is a Senior that cannot clearly separate from the the rest. He may be our best choice, but I don't know anyone who thinks he is an SEC caliber QB. He can manage the game I guess. I think he got shafted with his development and is now like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

Riley may have a rocket arm and gunslinger attitude (that attribute is a mixed bag imo) but I question his ability to put it all together. I think he is the only one with serious raw talent. He is yet to prove that he can put it to use on the field though.

Dobbs might be brilliant with an abacus but I have seen nothing that shows his intelligence translates onto the field. Not when reading the D, not seeing wide open players, etc. Maybe he can run the ball for us and make things happen.

And Florida, that is all I will say about the last one other than seems like a nice kid.

I hope that with Worley gone next year we recruit someone over all the rest and get on with some TN level QB play.
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Nonsense. If you were at the game saturday, it would be evident to you that we have at least 3 serviceable SEC QBs. The quarterback position is no longer one of our top concerns.

D-line on the other hand...
 
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Remy said:
I see it as reversing Dobbs & Ferguson above. Ferguson has never taken an SEC snap. It depends on point in the season and how it's going, if and when Worley goes down or totally flops. A seasoned coach in a tight game tight situation will put in a youngster that has taken SEC snaps and game experience over one who as not ... period. Ferguson could get the nod over Dobbs on down the line but not if we're in a tight game, we're playing .500 or better ball, in front of a hostile away crowd, and Worley goes down. In that situation you'll not see Ferguson trot out, it will be Dobbs.
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This x1000. To those making excuses for Ferguson by saying he was just rattled by his first experience playing in front of a large crowd, we don't have the luxury of waiting for an unproven QB to get comfortable as we ease into the season. Ferguson isn't ready to be the starter at the beginning of the season, so the only scenario where he sees meaningful playing time would be the same kind of baptism-by-fire gauntlet that Dobbs went through last year. IMO, Ferguson won't play this year unless something goes terribly wrong with both Worley and Dobbs - an unlikely prospect given our new offensive weapons and their stellar performances in the O&W game.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
This x1000. To those making excuses for Ferguson by saying he was just rattled by his first experience playing in front of a large crowd, we don't have the luxury of waiting for an unproven QB to get comfortable as we ease into the season. Ferguson isn't ready to be the starter at the beginning of the season, so the only scenario where he sees meaningful playing time would be the same kind of baptism-by-fire gauntlet that Dobbs went through last year. IMO, Ferguson won't play this year unless something goes terribly wrong with both Worley and Dobbs - an unlikely prospect given our new offensive weapons and their stellar performances in the O&W game.
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So you're another Dobbonite thats fine with Dobbs going in during garbage time and wasting a year of eligibility so he can play against teams like Chattanooga?

Only considering if Worley starts and stays healthy.
 
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FWIW...

Heres VQs version of the post spring depth chart. Doesnt come from the coaches, but comes from guys who cover the team and get to see the practices. Although, I know there will be some of yall who dont look at it because you think theres a conspiracy that the media is working with CBJ to trick us. And theres also some of you who think the media guys lie to us about certain players.

https://tennessee.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
FWIW...

Heres VQs version of the post spring depth chart. Doesnt come from the coaches, but comes from guys who cover the team and get to see the practices. Although, I know there will be some of yall who dont look at it because you think theres a conspiracy that the media is working with CBJ to trick us. And theres also some of you who think the media guys lie to us about certain players.

https://tennessee.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp
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Well POA, now you've done it..... you and your shouting from the rooftops and anointing Riley and all .....

I do have one question though. Alex Ellis starting at TE?
 
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Depth Chart:
Worley
Ferguson
Peterman
Dobbs (Redshirt)

IMHO. If we have so many injuries that Justin can't play 10 games, then i expect we'll be 5-7, but if justin plays the whole year we might be able to win 7. (if we find a defense)
 
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KBVol said:
Well POA, now you've done it..... you and your shouting from the rooftops and anointing Riley and all .....

I do have one question though. Alex Ellis starting at TE?
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"He was the first guy with the ones all spring. Now, Wolf and Helm played a lot with the ones as well."
-Fortenberry

EDIT: yeah people keep saying that im shouting that Ferg is the man.... when really all im doing is questioning why they are writing him off after 1 scrimmage... when at the same time, noting the other guys have had bad performances in the past.
 
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Guy's I sat in Neyland in 1994 with a friend and watched warm up's before the game and Brandon Stewart had a lot better touch on the ball and threw the deep ball on target better than Peyton.My friend and I both said Stewart would be the man !!!Were we wrong !!!
 
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AboveAllNations said:
Josh Dobbs is bigger, faster, smarter, more accurate, more experienced, and less turnover-prone than Riley Ferguson, but Ferguson is still the better quarterback because... ?
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I'm a Dobbs man and will tell you right now that Dobbs has shown a tendency to juggle and fumble snaps. Now, I'm not sure if it's because he gets low snaps from the center a lot or softens his hands with with olive oil and coconut grease. But it happens more than it should.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
"He was the first guy with the ones all spring. Now, Wolf and Helm played a lot with the ones as well."
-Fortenberry
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Thanks. I didn't hear much about him all Spring. Guess Butch had all the writers/observers on lockdown and a pinky swear not to say much about him. 😊
 
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cookVol1 said:
Guy's I sat in Neyland in 1994 with a friend and watched warm up's before the game and Brandon Stewart had a lot better touch on the ball and threw the deep ball on target better than Peyton.My friend and I both said Stewart would be the man !!!Were we wrong !!!
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Not trying to flame here but who has said Riley will be the man? Nearly 100% have said, and I believe correctly, that it will be Worley. I know I've never once said it will be Riley, have just regurgitated what those close to the program have said and that's that he's been splitting team one snaps with Worley.... and I've got guys saying I'm naive or wrong or that I'm trying to anoint him as the starter. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
So you're another Dobbonite thats fine with Dobbs going in during garbage time and wasting a year of eligibility so he can play against teams like Chattanooga?

Only considering if Worley starts and stays healthy.
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I stand by my statement that Ferguson won't get "meaningful playing time" (i.e., a start or action in a close game) unless both Worley and Dobbs are already out of the picture. Ferguson might get some garbage time mop-up duty this year, but I don't think the coaches are going to get cute with the depth chart in an attempt to redshirt Dobbs.

In an ideal world, it works out best if the depth chart for every position (including QB) is staggered by class (SR, JR, Soph, FR) so you don't have a drop-off if two guys graduate in one year. While he may not be the starter against Utah State, Josh Dobbs WILL be needed at some point this season. Worrying about his eligibility for 2017 is silly, IMO.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
I still see the depth chart as:

Worley
Ferguson


Dobbs
Peterman
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who told anyone that this was the way the depth chart is? then fergy fans get all butthurt when folk bring up his play in the spring game and the fact that this couldn't possibly be correct.

yet, it continues to be done....smmfh
 
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KBVol said:
Well POA, now you've done it..... you and your shouting from the rooftops and anointing Riley and all .....

I do have one question though. Alex Ellis starting at TE?
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but the qb part must obviously be correct, right? smmfh
 
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lexkyvol said:
who told anyone that this was the way the depth chart is? then fergy fans get all butthurt when folk bring up his play in the spring game and the fact that this couldn't possibly be correct.

yet, it continues to be done....smmfh
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The VQ post spring depth chart said that's the way the depth chart is.
 
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