Put up or Shut up Time for Coach Martin

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BigZiti09 said:
I like Jimmy Dykes but he is an absolute sheep for the SEC and it's not uncommon for coaches/former coaches to stick up for one another.
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Agree. Dyke's comment was something to the effect that 'Tennessee fans were crazy that were calling for a change.'

These national guys have no idea about the dynamics at play inside a program and the fan base, and too often make remarks by only looking at wins & losses, IMO.
 
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lostsheep said:
Agree. Dyke's comment was something to the effect that 'Tennessee fans were crazy that were calling for a change.'

These national guys have no idea about the dynamics at play inside a program and the fan base, and too often make remarks by only looking at wins & losses, IMO.
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I'd take the opinions of those that have actually worked in collegiate sports over those that act like they know just because they give money. He may not the actual details but he can generalize a lot better than any on this board.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I'd take the opinions of those that have actually worked in collegiate sports over those that act like they know just because they give money. He may not the actual details but he can generalize a lot better than any on this board.
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Again, he has no idea about the dynamics at each individual school, or how a coach has/has not endeared himself to the fan base.

Spending a few minutes talking to a coach before you broadcast a game doesn't exactly give one the ability to have 'their finger on the pulse' of a program.

That being said, you can take the opinions of whomever you choose to.
 
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lostsheep said:
Again, he has no idea about the dynamics at each individual school, or how a coach has/has not endeared himself to the fan base.

Spending a few minutes talking to a coach before you broadcast a game doesn't exactly give one the ability to have 'their finger on the pulse' of a program.

That being said, you can take the opinions of whomever you choose to.
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He can see a lot of other things. He can see the attendance, he can see the NCAA issues, he can see the original roster problems, etc. All things that you can see. However, he was actually in the coaching shoes and inside athletic departments. So, just because he is not inside this particular department, he can make an intelligent argument.

Your argument is like me acting like I know what's ACTUALLY wrong with my car just because I drive it all the time but a mechanic of 20 years doesn't give a decent ballpark diagnosis without going in depth.
 
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whobethis16 said:
He can see a lot of other things. He can see the attendance, he can see the NCAA issues, he can see the original roster problems, etc. All things that you can see. However, he was actually in the coaching shoes and inside athletic departments. So, just because he is not inside this particular department, he can make an intelligent argument.

Your argument is like me acting like I know what's ACTUALLY wrong with my car just because I drive it all the time but a mechanic of 20 years doesn't give a decent ballpark diagnosis without going in depth.
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I'll agree to disagree and move on.
 
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I think the NCAA two out of three or four years isn't unrealistic, with a sweet sixteen one of those years. That's what I'd like to see, and don't think it's unreasonable at all.
 
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UTBasketball2 said:
Oh look, more unrealistic expectations.
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Why? We have one of the most experienced lineups in the nation AND two first team All-SEC players. Unrealistic? We have well over 20,000 seats and you think this is unrealistic? Really?
Be a true fan and put some pressure on this Purdue transplant. We deserve nothing less than a Sweet 16 berth. It is our God-given right to have such.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
Why? We have one of the most experienced lineups in the nation AND two first team All-SEC players. Unrealistic? We have well over 20,000 seats and you think this is unrealistic? Really?
Be a true fan and put some pressure on this Purdue transplant. We deserve nothing less than a Sweet 16 berth. It is our God-given right to have such.
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You don't think an Elite 8 this year is unrealistic? I truly believe we can get to the Sweet 16 this year if everything goes our way but I can't see us going any farther than that.
 
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UTBasketball2 said:
You don't think an Elite 8 this year is unrealistic? I truly believe we can get to the Sweet 16 this year if everything goes our way but I can't see us going any farther than that.
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Win one at a time.....make a sweet sixteen .....we dont even know who we will play.....just have to win one game from there to make an elite eight.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
Why? We have one of the most experienced lineups in the nation AND two first team All-SEC players. Unrealistic? We have well over 20,000 seats and you think this is unrealistic? Really?
Be a true fan and put some pressure on this Purdue transplant. We deserve nothing less than a Sweet 16 berth. It is our God-given right to have such.
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1.) The number of chairs has zero correlation to talent of players.
2.) Yes, two All-SEC players, but 2 players does not make a full team. So, unless others step up consistently, having those 2 doesn't equal wins. Example, all those games where the 4 starters scored in double figures and the 5 others scored nothing. Not a great recipe for success.
 
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Godfatha said:
I think the NCAA two out of three or four years isn't unrealistic, with a sweet sixteen one of those years. That's what I'd like to see, and don't think it's unreasonable at all.
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Agreed. If greatness is not expected, greatness is never achieved.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Win one at a time.....make a sweet sixteen .....we dont even know who we will play.....just have to win one game from there to make an elite eight.
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They certainly have the talent to beat anyone. I truly believe that. It's just a matter of outting it all together
 
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whobethis16 said:
1.) The number of chairs has zero correlation to talent of players.
2.) Yes, two All-SEC players, but 2 players does not make a full team. So, unless others step up consistently, having those 2 doesn't equal wins. Example, all those games where the 4 starters scored in double figures and the 5 others scored nothing. Not a great recipe for success.
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Richardson is on the All-SEC Defensive team. No excuses.
 
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Coach Martin just put up. And now the negavols get to shut up. Game set match won by CCM. Flawless coaching in overtime.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Realistically what I'm hearing is Iowa has been on a losing streak, we have been winning, UMass does not belong at a 6 seed. I think we win two and can beat Dukie, based on Virginia win and our drilling of Virginia. When former Vandy players and coach are pretty much predicting at least two wins as much as we dislike one another, ALL the marbles may be on the line for Coach Martin.
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:blink:
 
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Not that I post much, but I saw a tenacious team that stayed in the game and pulled away when the chances rose in the OT. Add solid recruiting and development, these seem to be the core keys to success.
 
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Looks like he put up. You can credit that win to the style of play Martin has instilled for this team. We played awful on offense for 35 minutes and still won b/c we were stronger rebounders, drew tons of fouls, and absolutely dominated Iowa's half court offense. Those are Cuonzo trademarks. I we can win when we're awful imagine what happens if we catch UMASS or Duke when we're actually playing well for a whole game. Go Vols!
 
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utfantilidie said:
Realistically what I'm hearing is Iowa has been on a losing streak, we have been winning, UMass does not belong at a 6 seed. I think we win two and can beat Dukie, based on Virginia win and our drilling of Virginia. When former Vandy players and coach are pretty much predicting at least two wins as much as we dislike one another, ALL the marbles may be on the line for Coach Martin.
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bump
 
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#200
I'm starting to see where most of this stuff is coming from. Clay Travis is trolling hard tonight on Twitter, saying he still supports a coaching change at UT and still bringing up Pearl, and basically saying UT has beaten no one to get here.
 
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