Qanon -The Storm

Here’s a coincidence: Trump loses in court. Often. The only legal battles I can remember him winning in the last two years were brought by Michael Avenatti?

What’s the mathematical probability (numbers) of him masterminding the investigation, trial, and conviction of hundreds of corrupt civil servants when he can’t draft executive orders that pass constitutional muster?

You are such a negative Nancy. To pee on their parade...at Christmas time. The nerve!
 
Here’s a coincidence: Trump loses in court. Often. The only legal battles I can remember him winning in the last two years were brought by Michael Avenatti?

What’s the mathematical probability (numbers) of him masterminding the investigation, trial, and conviction of hundreds of corrupt civil servants when he can’t draft executive orders that pass constitutional muster?

Who said Trump masterminded the plan?

I've never claimed this or seen anyone else in this thread claim this either.

Where did you read it?
 
They can refute it in some illogical twisted measure... at which point I’ll call them liars. Notice neither Obama or Clinton mentioned a wall... a more solid solution that makes all the other waste unnecessary. After all if they can’t get foot on American soil there is no need for increased catch and release, no need to vet illegals for welfare, no need to spend more on prosecuting them. The wall would effectively cut out a lot of expense. Plus reducing drug routes, human trafficking and anchor babies.View attachment 185023
Logical post... barriers are just that, they restrict crossings, and hence will reduce costs associated with the requirement for numbers of boots on the border.
 
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Who said Trump masterminded the plan?

I've never claimed this or seen anyone else in this thread claim this either.

Where did you read it?

You mean aside from Q on October 28, 29, 31 of 2017 and probably more since then?

It's fairly complex, but the gist is that Trump and his team are actively working to take down the deep state.

I'm not claiming to understand it all. I'm simply convinced that the president is keeping his promise to drain the swamp.

The media is bought and paid for - propaganda - most Americans are ignorant to this fact.

I think the State of the Union will start to reveal some of what has happened and what is happening.

Q is asking questions so "Patriots" can find the answers for themselves. Most people will be shocked to find we've been lied to for decades.

Lookup Operation Mockingbird

Operation Mockingbird - Wikipedia

You may understand in the months/years to come.

My opinion below:

This is intelligence information that is being used to confirm current and future actions of our president & military to extract and freeze the assets of the people controlling the narrative.

Essentially we are at w@r with human rights violators and we will capture them as POW and prosecute by military tribunal.

The corruption is so far reaching this is the only way to root it out.

This is all just my opinion based on things I've read and the breadcrumbs that Q has dropped to help people find answers.
President Trump is making the fight against human trafficking a priority.

Watch the video

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I'll try to simplify this for you.

The Swamp = Deep State

POTUS + Patriots + Q = Drain The Swamp
No, Trump takes cues from no one.

Trump is confirming for all Q followers / doubters that this movement is real.
I'll admit I was wrong if I'm proven wrong.

You and the others trolling this thread haven't even considered the possibility that this is real.

Will you admit it? What evidence would you need to admit it?

Confirmation from Trump himself?

(Emphasis added, where appropriate.)

If you’re saying he’s not in control, then you’re just substituting one “deep state” for another.
 
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You mean aside from Q on October 28, 29, 31 of 2017 and probably more since then?











(Emphasis added, where appropriate.)

If you’re saying he’s not in control, then you’re just substituting one “deep state” for another.
I believe what he/she is saying is that no one said Trump masterminded this. In Q lore, Trump is a willing and central participant, but wasn't the mastermind.

In Q lore, "white hats" in the gov't (primarily military and intelligence) who saw the corruption and plans of the deep state and recruited Trump to run for president as an outsider who wouldn't be in the pocket for corporate special interest $$$, and who would work with the other white hats in gov't to stop the deep state plans, expose the political corruption and return the gov't to the people.

Emphasis or no, nothing you quoted said that Trump masterminded this whole thing. And my emphasis reminds you that in Q lore, it's not a matter of another deep state, but a matter of the white hats in legitimate gov't finally fighting off an ongoing coup and returning gov't to its intended servants.
 
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You mean aside from Q on October 28, 29, 31 of 2017 and probably more since then?











(Emphasis added, where appropriate.)

If you’re saying he’s not in control, then you’re just substituting one “deep state” for another.

Help me out and show me which one of those posts stated that Trump "masterminded the plan".

I'll save you some time - none of them said that.
 
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Here’s a coincidence: Trump loses in court. Often. The only legal battles I can remember him winning in the last two years were brought by Michael Avenatti?

What’s the mathematical probability (numbers) of him masterminding the investigation, trial, and conviction of hundreds of corrupt civil servants when he can’t draft executive orders that pass constitutional muster?
I just shook my head when his first EOs came out. It’s like go back to the constitutional lawyers and try again.
 
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Help me out and show me which one of those posts stated that Trump "masterminded the plan".

I'll save you some time - none of them said that.

Q never predicted the Hawaii Balistic Missile alert, either. And yet, people think that it’s proof that Q is legitimate.

His posts about who’s in charge of this movement and who deserves the credit are much more clear than anything that’s been interpreted as prognostication.
 
Q never predicted the Hawaii Balistic Missile alert, either. And yet, people think that it’s proof that Q is legitimate.

His posts about who’s in charge of this movement and who deserves the credit are much more clear than anything that’s been interpreted as prognostication.

Sounds like scrambling from someone who spoke out of turn and has trouble admitting it.
 
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Q never predicted the Hawaii Balistic Missile alert, either. And yet, people think that it’s proof that Q is legitimate.

His posts about who’s in charge of this movement and who deserves the credit are much more clear than anything that’s been interpreted as prognostication.
No he didn’t predict it, they reacted to it. From my understanding one post sticks out from way back to explain the beginnings of the Q movement. I’ll try to find the post # for you17429F6A-AFAF-4839-AB6C-7205E932653A.png
 
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No he didn’t predict it, they reacted to it. From my understanding one post sticks out from way back to explain the beginnings of the Q movement. I’ll try to find the post # for youView attachment 185249

I appreciate your willingness to help.

Most of Q’s posts, read literally, say nothing and often mean absolutely nothing. There was one from January that wasn’t about a missile alert, then the alert happened and people assumed that’s what it was about after the fact. That assumption was fostered by Q. The narrative may have changed since then.

My point is that asking to be shown a specific post where Q uses a specific phrase or a clear announcement about who is in charge of “the storm” is a pretty disingenuous defense mechanism.

It seems like “hoax” is the best that can be hoped for Q. Otherwise, it looks a lot like propaganda aimed at priming the pump for a coup and incarceration of political opponents without evidence or due process.
 
I appreciate your willingness to help.

Most of Q’s posts, read literally, say nothing and often mean absolutely nothing. There was one from January that wasn’t about a missile alert, then the alert happened and people assumed that’s what it was about after the fact. That assumption was fostered by Q. The narrative may have changed since then.

My point is that asking to be shown a specific post where Q uses a specific phrase or a clear announcement about who is in charge of “the storm” is a pretty disingenuous defense mechanism.

It seems like “hoax” is the best that can be hoped for Q. Otherwise, it looks a lot like propaganda aimed at priming the pump for a coup and incarceration of political opponents without evidence or due process.

The above is a pretty disingenuous defense mechanism, as you accused specific claims. You quoted posts and added emphasis to "prove" your accusations of specific claims. Then when it was pointed out that you were rectum-talking, you're now deflecting.
 
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I appreciate your willingness to help.

Most of Q’s posts, read literally, say nothing and often mean absolutely nothing. There was one from January that wasn’t about a missile alert, then the alert happened and people assumed that’s what it was about after the fact. That assumption was fostered by Q. The narrative may have changed since then.

My point is that asking to be shown a specific post where Q uses a specific phrase or a clear announcement about who is in charge of “the storm” is a pretty disingenuous defense mechanism.

It seems like “hoax” is the best that can be hoped for Q. Otherwise, it looks a lot like propaganda aimed at priming the pump for a coup and incarceration of political opponents without evidence or due process.

I have noted a few inconsistencies, I get what you are saying, post 8 points out the NSA as the starter. NSA’s capabilities for info gathering would scare the public at large if they knew the amount of info and type that are captured. NSA makes sense to me.

As far as a red flaming flag with the sole proprietorships name on it, no I don’t think we will see that. Trumps involved, Rogers, I can guess at the rest.

As far as Q statements I pretty much get what he’s talking about most of the time, few times he’s lost me. Then I just follow what he’s given to the money.

Trump already has the presidency and most likely 2020, the senate is republicans with quite a few rhinos leaving including the speaker, the courts are filling up with his nominees so I am curious a coup against who?

I’m fairly sure all those who have left their seats on the bus of government agencies didn’t do so willingly. Comey, Campbell, Yates, Strzok, Page, Baker, Laufman, McCord, Brand, Kieran, McCabe, Priestrap... all out. That’s alot of senior members of FBI and DOJ. Yes for 2 “non political” departments that’s higher than normal recidivism on election year. Only 3 of those are appointed, rest are career. What do they have on them...To make them drop their careers like that.
 
I have noted a few inconsistencies, I get what you are saying, post 8 points out the NSA as the starter. NSA’s capabilities for info gathering would scare the public at large if they knew the amount of info and type that are captured. NSA makes sense to me.

As far as a red flaming flag with the sole proprietorships name on it, no I don’t think we will see that. Trumps involved, Rogers, I can guess at the rest.

As far as Q statements I pretty much get what he’s talking about most of the time, few times he’s lost me. Then I just follow what he’s given to the money.

Trump already has the presidency and most likely 2020, the senate is republicans with quite a few rhinos leaving including the speaker, the courts are filling up with his nominees so I am curious a coup against who?

I’m fairly sure all those who have left their seats on the bus of government agencies didn’t do so willingly. Comey, Campbell, Yates, Strzok, Page, Baker, Laufman, McCord, Brand, Kieran, McCabe, Priestrap... all out. That’s alot of senior members of FBI and DOJ. Yes for 2 “non political” departments that’s higher than normal recidivism on election year. Only 3 of those are appointed, rest are career. What do they have on them...To make them drop their careers like that.

Not sure of your take, but Q is a "they" in my opinion.

If I had to guess there are at least 5 or 6 posting as Q.
 
Is this still a thing? After all the prognostication fails, I'm surprised there are still holdouts.

Fight the good fight boys, I guess.
 
Q never predicted the Hawaii Balistic Missile alert, either. And yet, people think that it’s proof that Q is legitimate.

His posts about who’s in charge of this movement and who deserves the credit are much more clear than anything that’s been interpreted as prognostication.

I think you've already made up your mind without reading/researching the Q posts yourself.

Here's 3 separate Q drops that go with the bold text above

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I have noted a few inconsistencies, I get what you are saying, post 8 points out the NSA as the starter. NSA’s capabilities for info gathering would scare the public at large if they knew the amount of info and type that are captured. NSA makes sense to me.

As far as a red flaming flag with the sole proprietorships name on it, no I don’t think we will see that. Trumps involved, Rogers, I can guess at the rest.

As far as Q statements I pretty much get what he’s talking about most of the time, few times he’s lost me. Then I just follow what he’s given to the money.

Trump already has the presidency and most likely 2020, the senate is republicans with quite a few rhinos leaving including the speaker, the courts are filling up with his nominees so I am curious a coup against who?

I’m fairly sure all those who have left their seats on the bus of government agencies didn’t do so willingly. Comey, Campbell, Yates, Strzok, Page, Baker, Laufman, McCord, Brand, Kieran, McCabe, Priestrap... all out. That’s alot of senior members of FBI and DOJ. Yes for 2 “non political” departments that’s higher than normal recidivism on election year. Only 3 of those are appointed, rest are career. What do they have on them...To make them drop their careers like that.

Six of the seven posts that preceded post 8 suggest Trump was in control of this and that NSA was important because of the data collection.

Rogers announced his retirement like two months after that post. Seems unlikely he’d leave at the start of a successful revolution, or whatever, that he started.

In terms of the coup, I’m not saying it’s my opinion that that’s what’s happening. I think this is all propaganda designed to give tribal partisans something to hold on to in the face of the obvious incompetence of this administration. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump or the Trump family was in some way involved in it. It would explain all of the “proofs.”

That said, the idea that there doesn’t need to be a coup because republicans control the government is a bit myopic. Trump has been aggrieved by a number of democratic institutions: the judiciary, the Democratic Party, the media, the constitution, and even the legislative process. Taken at face value, QAnon lays a foundation for Trump to do away with any number of these. It’s exactly the same tactic used by other authoritarian regimes to subvert more inclusive forms of government: Create an enemy or the illusion of an enemy, convince people your ideas are the solution, and declare that anybody who opposes the solution is an agent of the enemy. It’s so historically cliche that it was basically the plot of the Star Wars prequels...

The other incongruence in all of this is that, if it’s not being run by the president in an open and public trial process, then it literally is the/another deep state. What reason do you have to believe that whoever is in charge is acting in anyone’s best interest, if you’re not even certain who that is?

I think you've already made up your mind without reading/researching the Q posts yourself.

Here's 3 separate Q drops that go with the bold text above

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I have read and researched plenty, and yes, I’ve made up my mind. I also read and researched the communist manifesto at some point in my life. That was another ideology full of promises that it was “for” its subscribers. Didn’t work out so great for them.

If this were real and in any way legitimately in your best interest, it would be handled out in the open and you’d be able to name the person (or even the number of persons) responsible for it.

It’s political fiction, probably now being authored by members of Trump Inc, at best designed to cause you to ascribe some attribute other than incompetence to the cable news president, or at worst to cause you to support him when his time runs out and he throws the inevitable mother of all temper tantrums and tries to retain power.
 

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