Qanon -The Storm

[Stew Cook]

QAnon has a digital signature. But it'd also be hard to duplicate the social media marker times with Trump posts the way Q has repeatedly done. You're referencing a social media debate when this would probably be better as a cryptographic and statistical discussion.

In other words, you're more than welcome to share the proof that "QAnon has been coopted from the beginning", but you'll need to consider the cryptographic and statistical points as well. If Q gives evidence that he/she/they is/are working closely with President Trump, then it undermines even the need to discuss whether Q has been coopted.

If you are referring to the airtight 4chan generated identifier, I'm not so sure I would place much faith in that. But if it goes deeper than that, I'll entertain the idea of compromise being unlikely.

 

[Orange_Crush]

If you are referring to the airtight 4chan generated identifier, I'm not so sure I would place much faith in that. But if it goes deeper than that, I'll entertain the idea of compromise being unlikely.

I am. And without researching its technology or the underlying cryptography, I'm not sure I do either. But that, the timestamps, and other things are a much different conversation than:

Because QAnon has been coopted from the beginning. Evidenced by the debate on wether Q is the original Q. And that doesn't even matter, because with Twitter/Social Media anyone/group can identify as being representative.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but what has QAnon, as an entity, done to disavow the problem posers?

Q has been co-opted because there's a debate about whether Q has been co-opted. That right there is just unassailable logic: "The fact that there's debate about this proves my side of the debate."

 

[Stew Cook]

I am. And without researching its technology or the underlying cryptography, I'm not sure I do either. But that, the timestamps, and other things are a much different conversation than:



Q has been co-opted because there's a debate about whether Q has been co-opted. That right there is just unassailable logic: "The fact that there's debate about this proves my side of the debate."

I get that, and coopted isn't the best description, unless it's applied to the moniker. Official or not, there is a split. And the WWG1WGA, especially, isn't holding up, in reality.

But NMWYGTYA

 

[NurseGoodVol]

No, I'm not talking about the mentally ill. I'm talking about the movement and bad elements within.

The movement are people like Aj and I. Neither of us would take the actions the 2 people in the article took. I think the media is creating a monster that doesn't exist. It's been called a cult, you've called it a cult. I think a following would be more accurate.
If I decide to completely ignore it, no one comes to my house, I don't get reeducated. It's a choice to seek information. I find some things pertinent, some are just not.

 

[Wireless1]

Because the only degrees people get in college is in women's studies and philosophy (you probably don't know, but a ton of lawyers majored in philosophy).

That explains a lot

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Or it means you were dumb enough to go in thousands of dollars in debt to get a Women’s studies or Philosophy degree and end up bartending or Driving an uber

2 with masters degree running the local storage facility. Philosophy and finance.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Maybe one or more people forced the gate open, who knows? Legally, I think they're in hot water, as pointing guns at trespassers is generally not OK. Regardless, if they can be convincing that they were in fear for their lives, I doubt much will come of it.

Castle doctrine

 

[Stew Cook]

Castle doctrine

Could be if Missouri is different than most, generally though, that applies to personal private property. Again, I think they'll pay a fine at worst and it will amount to nothing at best. Nobody died.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Could be if Missouri is different than most, generally though, that applies to personal private property. Again, I think they'll pay a fine at worst and it will amount to nothing at best. Nobody died.

It's political on both sides. The DA is woke and the AG is proving how conservative he is. I predict it'll be interesting to watch.

 

[ajvol01]

Because QAnon has been coopted from the beginning. Evidenced by the debate on wether Q is the original Q. And that doesn't even matter, because with Twitter/Social Media anyone/group can identify as being representative.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but what has QAnon, as an entity, done to disavow the problem posers?

Nope.

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Q Only on 8chan/8kun Platform
Q!UW.yye1fxo8 Jan 2018 - 11:29:38 PM
IMPORTANT:
NO private comms past/present/future.
NO comms made outside of this platform.
Any claims that contradict the above should be considered FAKE NEWS and disregarded immediately.
WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL.
PATRIOTS.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

It's political on both sides. The DA is woke and the AG is proving how conservative he is. I predict it'll be interesting to watch.

Didn't the governor say a pardon was on the table no matter what?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Could be if Missouri is different than most, generally though, that applies to personal private property. Again, I think they'll pay a fine at worst and it will amount to nothing at best. Nobody died.

The entire gated community was personal private property.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I doubt much will come of it at all since you had a mob of people had trespassed on private property, during a time when mobs of people are burning, looting, beating and murdering.

The legal question is, "Did you fear for the life or bodily harm of yourself or others?"

(1) That's an incredibly subjective question.

(2) In this time and climate, it's not a hard legal argument to make.

(2b) The dude's an attorney. I'm sure he knows that.

It's kind of like similar news stories. You don;t have the right to run over people just because they are blocking your progress in your car. It's a completely different situation when people are blocking your progress while a mob descends on your car, screaming and knocking your car windows out.

Face it. It's a dangerous time to be a member of a mob right now. You probably don't want to be a member of a mob that's trespassing or descending on vehicles.

Yeah..huh?

It's almost like it's dangerous and a terrible idea to be part of an angry mob that is trespassing, looting, burning, assaulting, damaging property, or murdering. Strangely all those ILLEGAL activities are the dangerous ones that will get your teeth knocked out...get you shot...get you run over...get you arrested...etc etc

For the smart folks who want to exercise their rights to protest and be heard:

They can (and do) get a permit to protest dirt cheap...and the local government will actually provide cops to keep you safe while you peacefully protest...even if the cops are the reason FOR your protest. They will keep you safe from any counter protestors or folks who simply disagree with you. We have more freedom to protest the government here in the US than pretty much anywhere else on Earth. With zero danger.

It's almost like people who respect the laws of our country stay safe...and those dirty criminals are a danger to themselves and those around them are the ones who endanger themselves in the act of being shtupid....

 

[Stew Cook]

The entire gated community was personal private property.

Sure, just saying if it wasn't their personal private property, that may not wash under the Castle Doctrine.. I think people misunderstanding gun laws is pretty common. Ill not pretend to know everything, just offering my opinion.

 

[OldVolMan]

I think it’s had a calming effect (Calm before the storm ) for some who might have felt some need to act otherwise

I agree, I think people are just looking for answers to what the heck has happened, and is currently happening to our country. If it gives some people hope and a little bit of faith, and helps with their anxiety, what is wrong with that?
Since Twitter will allow pornography, anti God, and child abuse dialog to continue, but take action against Q, that actually makes me more curious and interested to look more into Q.
You can call me crazy, but when we are trying to be controlled and in any way be limited of our freedoms, it makes me very suspicious of why.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The entire gated community was personal private property.

Personal?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I think the homeowners made a slight mistake...in pointing their guns at the crowd. That can and is considered assault under different circumstances. They should have certainly brandished their weapons...made it known to any would be assailants that they were armed and ready. As a deterrent...but one shouldnt point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot them.

We were not there though. Hard to say what we would have done in that circumstance from here, after the fact. In that charged moment is way different. I am glad it all worked out and nobody was hurt.

 

[OldVolMan]

Personal?

I think she might mean any persons property living in that private gated community.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I think she might mean any persons property living in that private gated community.

The road and sidewalks of the gated community are private property, but more than likely not personal private property, depending on how the lots are deeded.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Private property means private property. It’s really not that hard.

This is a small snapshot if rioters decide to come to rural communities. Multiply this by 100 would be more accurate.

 

[OldVolMan]

The road and sidewalks of the gated community are private property, but more than likely not personal private property, depending on how the lots are deeded.

Yea, to me it is not even a matter of private or not, or not even the debate if they broke down the gate or not. I'm proud of the Governor defending them.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Private property means private property. It’s really not that hard.

This is a small snapshot if rioters decide to come to rural communities. Multiply this by 100 would be more accurate.

Incorrect. When it comes to your rights and the castle doctrine, there is a difference between your property and, say, a church parking lot, or local Wal Mart. You have the right to shoot someone for coming into your house without your invitation. You don't have the right to shoot them if they come into a church parking lot without your permission.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Sure, just saying if it wasn't their personal private property, that may not wash under the Castle Doctrine.. I think people misunderstanding gun laws is pretty common. Ill not pretend to know everything, just offering my opinion.

That's true. I don't know everything either. one thing I do know....drag the body in the house ☺

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Personal?

Here's the rub. They claimed the street was private but...
The private street may be marked, doesn't mean it is. Personal was my own oversight.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I think the homeowners made a slight mistake...in pointing their guns at the crowd. That can and is considered assault under different circumstances. They should have certainly brandished their weapons...made it known to any would be assailants that they were armed and ready. As a deterrent...but one shouldnt point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot them.

We were not there though. Hard to say what we would have done in that circumstance from here, after the fact. In that charged moment is way different. I am glad it all worked out and nobody was hurt.

The way she was brandishing if I were her husband I'd have been ducking her. She has no gun discipline.