QB troubles

#51
#51
If we can get Rettig and the Grayson kid I would feel fine about our QB's. We would have 2 incoming Freshmen with a lot of potential, Lamaison is serviceable and Stephens will be starting in 2010 regardless of who we signed this year, IMO.
 
#53
#53
checkerboard_charly said:
Nah....the guy who started this and is freaking out.....

We are gonna get Rettig and Laimason ?sp.......We have yet to play one down with our new O....Chill the F out guys.
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Yeh, I don't see any QB troubles right now. This is recruiting. This is how it goes each and every year. Win some lose some.
 
#54
#54
We have 6 months before LOIs and if last year tells me anything, this staff will get a good QB either from one who is already committed to someone else or a diamond who proves himself in his senior year.

Remember, these prospects haven't played their senior year yet and some are going to emerge as winners. The first 2 posts in this thread are exactly right. We have too many good selling points for kids to ignore in the end.

My sense is that we will get some headliner and the bandwagon will begin rolling, for those committed to others or not, to jump on.

It would be great to get Scroggins now so the bandwagon could start rolling, but if he goes to USC, we will still do well. Just hope he doesn't go swamping. It could be a blessing in disguise to have a slot open for a senior who suddenly emerges as a great prospect.
 
#55
#55
TennTradition said:
My guess is a combination of 5-7, a questionable receivers corps, no wins on the field for the new staff (despite past success), and the fact that coming in to a bone-dry QB pool isn't nearly as attractive to recruits as we would like to believe.
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Look who the offensive coordinator was! What a big time loser!
 
#57
#57
TennTradition said:
That only addresses the first problem, that is, of a 5-7 season.
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I seem to recall Kiffin talking about how difficult it is to recruit QBs when you are behind. He would go on to say that to gain a meaningful relationship with a solid QB recruit you really need about three years. So I tend to think we're better off in 2011, even if we tank this year, than we are in 2010. The problem is that the obvious benefit of signing someone like Scroggins to pull in recruits is negated if he goes else where. By all accounts I'm not sure we're going to get him for a number of a reasons, but I'm not sure it is our past performance that is the problem. Hopefully, Rettig or whomever we find will blow up this year and we'll be able to change a few minds in other needed positions before it is all said and done.
 
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#58
#58
Capt Straight said:
Look who the offensive coordinator was! What a big time loser!
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If you are talking about last year... then I will point out the painfully obvious to you. Clawson had Nunes and Petty then after losing Petty picked up Boyd who showed out in one of the HS AA games. Clawson was a victim... not a culprit. The guy needed two seasons to get it going... Fulmer didn't have that many to give.
 
#59
#59
sjt18 said:
If you are talking about last year... then I will point out the painfully obvious to you. Clawson had Nunes and Petty then after losing Petty picked up Boyd who showed out in one of the HS AA games. Clawson was a victim... not a culprit. The guy needed two seasons to get it going... Fulmer didn't have that many to give.
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I blame Clawson, not Fulmer.
 
#60
#60
The most difficult thing this year isn't the time. The most difficult thing this year is that there are so few good QB's and most of the ones available happen to be in California.
 
#61
#61
TnVolFan14 said:
I blame Clawson, not Fulmer.
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Clawson didn't let the program deteriorate for 8 seasons... but based on the O class he was building last year at this time... he was well on his way to helping restore it in 2 or 3.

Cut did what Cut needed to do for short term success. Clawson was trying to actually rebuild the O after the Sanders debacle.

You are free to blame whoever you want but the problems UT had last year took much longer than 9 months to develop.
 
#62
#62
volroadwarrior said:
We have 6 months before LOIs and if last year tells me anything, this staff will get a good QB either from one who is already committed to someone else or a diamond who proves himself in his senior year.

Remember, these prospects haven't played their senior year yet and some are going to emerge as winners. The first 2 posts in this thread are exactly right. We have too many good selling points for kids to ignore in the end.

My sense is that we will get some headliner and the bandwagon will begin rolling, for those committed to others or not, to jump on.

It would be great to get Scroggins now so the bandwagon could start rolling, but if he goes to USC, we will still do well. Just hope he doesn't go swamping. It could be a blessing in disguise to have a slot open for a senior who suddenly emerges as a great prospect.
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Well said!:clapping:
 
#63
#63
sjt18 said:
Clawson didn't let the program deteriorate for 8 seasons... but based on the O class he was building last year at this time... he was well on his way to helping restore it in 2 or 3.

Cut did what Cut needed to do for short term success. Clawson was trying to actually rebuild the O after the Sanders debacle.

You are free to blame whoever you want but the problems UT had last year took much longer than 9 months to develop.
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Don't get me wrong,I don't think Fulmer is completely innocent in all of this,but I think that someone with any knowledge in football knows that we should not have lost 7 games last year.Clawson seemed a little to pass happy.
 
#64
#64
sjt18 said:
If you are talking about last year... then I will point out the painfully obvious to you. Clawson had Nunes and Petty then after losing Petty picked up Boyd who showed out in one of the HS AA games. Clawson was a victim... not a culprit. The guy needed two seasons to get it going... Fulmer didn't have that many to give.
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I understand it wasn't all his fault, but calling Clawson a victim is ridiculous. His playcalling was ridiculous.
 
#65
#65
Clawson may have very well been on his way to building something but the thing that got him canned and Fulmer was the inability to adapt to your players. He asked Crompton to throw 41 times in the first game, when we had Foster, Hardesty, Creer, and Poole in the backfield...
 
#66
#66
Knox9552 said:
Clawson may have very well been on his way to building something but the thing that got him canned and Fulmer was the inability to adapt to your players. He asked Crompton to throw 41 times in the first game, when we had Foster, Hardesty, Creer, and Poole in the backfield...
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I agree completely. I don't understand why it took so long to figure that we needed to be more conservative with the playcalling. The Vandy and Kentucky games were really more of what kind of team we had on offense, patience with the running game and throw just enough to keep them off balance. Of course, one problem was that we couldn't run effectively against really good teams.
 
#67
#67
Knox9552 said:
Clawson may have very well been on his way to building something but the thing that got him canned and Fulmer was the inability to adapt to your players. He asked Crompton to throw 41 times in the first game, when we had Foster, Hardesty, Creer, and Poole in the backfield...
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I seem to remember that Clawson called the plays up until the Vanderbilt game.But I could be wrong.
 
#68
#68
The UCLA game just set the tone for the season last year. Clawson is a joke. I never really looked at the stats of that game, but Foster was averaging 7.4 yds per carry, and Hardesty was also averaging 5.5 yds per carry.
 
#69
#69
I'm honestly tired of hearing about scroggins. If he wants to pass up playing in the SEC for the pac-10 thats his problem. The conference and schedules of the pac-10 are all weak. I give props to USC and Pete Carroll but they dont play Florida, Georgia, Alabama or LSU every year. Not to mention the bottom half of the SEC. They would be 5-7 like us or worse and thats with the staff and players they have had in the last few years. Give me Lamaison and a top QB in 2011 and let's pay some football.
 
#70
#70
tguess4 said:
I'm honestly tired of hearing about scroggins. If he wants to pass up playing in the SEC for the pac-10 thats his problem. The conference and schedules of the pac-10 are all weak. I give props to USC and Pete Carroll but they dont play Florida, Georgia, Alabama or LSU every year. Not to mention the bottom half of the SEC. They would be 5-7 like us or worse and thats with the staff and players they have had in the last few years. Give me Lamaison and a top QB in 2011 and let's pay some football.
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USC would not go 5-7 in the SEC thats just ridiculous. Yes they play in a weak conference but to say they would go 5-7 or worse in the SEC is a bit much considering the talent they bring in.
 
#72
#72
We will get a good QB. IMO, we can do A LOT better than Scroggins or anyone else in this year's class. We will still land Scroggins, but IMO, it won't do much more than provide future depth and competition for the 2010 and 2011 seasons, because Kiffin will pick up a much higher rated prospect next year and the year after. If any of you believe Scroggins could be the next great UT QB, then I don't know what you are thinking. It could happen, but I really doubt it. Whoever we get in 2001 will have way more upside.

Scroggins is not the caliber of QB to take us to greatness, but he could manage the offense along the way to it. Whoever plays before the 2011 prospects come in will just be there to manage the offense like JPW did his career for Bama, nothing special and certainly not a gamebreaker, but able to get things done. Our future great QB will be in the next class.

This may be sad to hear, but even if we land Scroggins and Retting, Crompton will still the most talented QB we will have had on the roster since Ainge until we land an elite prospect in 2011.
 
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#73
#73
We will get a good QB. But what this all reaffirms is that we are in for a wild ride. We have no idea what is going on behind the doors. Heck Burnetti listening now makes me think he is far from solid to WV.
 
#74
#74
We will get somebody that is decent this year. But man, Jonathan Crompton was SCREWED. He had to learn three different offenses. Now he has to play behind a thin and young line. We will never know what that kid could have done in a more stable program and that's sad to me. On the positive side, I enjoyed the way everyone played against Kentucky last year on the road to end the season. Apparently our offense is simple this year and should be right up Crompton's alley.

Not so sure about Brunneti... He's not even 6'0. I would think he'd be better in a spread or offense that runs a lot of options. Watch his tapes... he's not a pocket passer.

But yes, terrible record previous season, unproven staff as far as W's, OL situation etc will make it hard this year. But if we could get a solid quarterback that comes in and doesn't need a spoon fed to him and actually wants to be a leader and allows the team to build an OL around him and Bryce and company it should be easy to do so.

Man, I do hope we find a kid that has Bryce Brown's mentality.
 
#75
#75
imavolsfanforlife said:
We will get somebody that is decent this year. But man, Jonathan Crompton was SCREWED. He had to learn three different offenses. Now he has to play behind a thin and young line. We will never know what that kid could have done in a more stable program and that's sad to me. On the positive side, I enjoyed the way everyone played against Kentucky last year on the road to end the season. Apparently our offense is simple this year and should be right up Crompton's alley.

Not so sure about Brunneti... He's not even 6'0. I would think he'd be better in a spread or offense that runs a lot of options. Watch his tapes... he's not a pocket passer.

But yes, terrible record previous season, unproven staff as far as W's, OL situation etc will make it hard this year. But if we could get a solid quarterback that comes in and doesn't need a spoon fed to him and actually wants to be a leader and allows the team to build an OL around him and Bryce and company it should be easy to do so.

Man, I do hope we find a kid that has Bryce Brown's mentality.
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Man it would be nice to get someone in here that could run the option like Jermaine Copeland did until they moved him to receiver. Every time he ran the option he gained huge yards or scored touchdowns. Of course there was a guy named Payton Manning that came in to play QB which made it an easy decision to move Jermaine to receiver....I just love the option. At least if we had someone that could come in and run it a few times a game that may not be the starter but a specialist at the option...
 
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