question for obama supporters

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DAVOL said:
Damn did she win a NOBEL PRIZE this year in economics no she did not cause Krugman won.
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Frankly, Krugman is a brilliant economist and tends to leave his leftism behind when talking about international trade (which is what is NP was about). Aside from that, he has interjected himself into the national political debate with some hardcore socialist viewpoints. Since that point, taking him seriously about any political economy discussion point is a waste of time. He's now essentially another liberal pundit, which is why the NYT loves him.
 
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#29
Humans are partisan, pretty much everyone on this board is partisan so I don't think I'll accept anything anyone says cause on this board it is all partisan.Well except OE he hates all politicians it seems.
 
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DAVOL said:
Humans are partisan, pretty much everyone on this board is partisan so I don't think I'll accept anything anyone says cause on this board it is all partisan.Well except OE he hates all politicians it seems.
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No, he likes Ron Paul.
 
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superdave1984 said:
It's not who will be better, but who will be better for me. Obama will be better for the working poor and the non working poor. He will be much worse for the wealthy or those viewed as wealthy. Middle class is a toss up. Obama wants everybody to be middle class.

McCain will be better for the wealthy and worse for the poor. Middle class probably will be better off with McCain, but only slightly.
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is giving handouts really good for the poor and non-working? how will mccain be worse for the poor? the poor don't pay taxes, they get unemployment and welfare checks now. don't you understand that it is the wealthy who are the ones who create jobs?

how many poor people have you asked for a job?

how many poor people have you intervewed with?

obama has a done a great job of creating class warfare and when companies start laying off because of the taxes, it's going to be like the carter years, but worse.
 
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615 Vol said:
Good stuff, I love this forum. We have put the Nobel Prize on the same level as the MTV awards Moon Man. I'd rather win a Dundie from Michael Scott on The Office.
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the nobel prize should be called the socialist prize. they gave it to carter just to jab at bush. so it's as about important as the mtv awards or the vh1 awards.
 
#34
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joevol320 said:
is giving handouts really good for the poor and non-working? how will mccain be worse for the poor? the poor don't pay taxes, they get unemployment and welfare checks now. don't you understand that it is the wealthy who are the ones who create jobs?

how many poor people have you asked for a job?

how many poor people have you intervewed with?

obama has a done a great job of creating class warfare and when companies start laying off because of the taxes, it's going to be like the carter years, but worse.
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Thanks for letting us know.
 
#36
#36
DAVOL said:
Humans are partisan, pretty much everyone on this board is partisan so I don't think I'll accept anything anyone says cause on this board it is all partisan.Well except OE he hates all politicians it seems.
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I have such conflicting political views one might say I am bipartisan curious.
 
#37
#37
joevol320 said:
is giving handouts really good for the poor and non-working? how will mccain be worse for the poor? the poor don't pay taxes, they get unemployment and welfare checks now. don't you understand that it is the wealthy who are the ones who create jobs?

how many poor people have you asked for a job?

how many poor people have you intervewed with?

obama has a done a great job of creating class warfare and when companies start laying off because of the taxes, it's going to be like the carter years, but worse.
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People actually do not create jobs they are created by demand now people can push policies to where there is likely to be more demand for goods and services but there has to be demand.So by saying giving tax breaks to the top %'s and they will create jobs is ludicrous unless there is demand to make that job needed.:good!:
 
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DAVOL said:
People actually do not create jobs they are created by demand now people can push policies to where there is likely to be more demand for goods and services but there has to be demand.So by saying giving tax breaks to the top %'s and they will create jobs is ludicrous unless there is demand to make that job needed.:good!:
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you should take an economics class. when you give tax breaks to companies, they invest in more products, people, they have more money to to pay dividends such as IRA's 401k's. college funds. so that's bad giving companies tax breaks? don't you understand that your 401k is in those companies? why would you want to tax a company more, when it would hurt your saving? or do you just want to rely on obama to help you do everything?
 
#41
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DAVOL said:
People actually do not create jobs they are created by demand now people can push policies to where there is likely to be more demand for goods and services but there has to be demand.So by saying giving tax breaks to the top %'s and they will create jobs is ludicrous unless there is demand to make that job needed.:good!:
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investment creates jobs. The gov't's role in that is to encourage investment. Aside from that, the gov't has little role, except as a buyer.
 
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if mccain somehow beat obama the dow would immediately go up 10%. don't think this drop doesn't have anything to do with the obamanation.
 
#44
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and i'd say with 9/11 and the housing bubble the fact that unemployment is still near 40 year lows is pretty darn impressive.
 
#45
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DAVOL said:
You still need DEMAND period.Tax breaks for the top % have been going on for years under Bush and what does the economy look like as of today.
September Job Losses Underscore Depth Of Crisis : NPR
let me guess oh it's NPR.
Dow: -2.4%
Nasdaq: -3.0%
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why don't you walk me down the little linkage from the demand you're talking about (which is, admittedly, a bit baffling) to index pricing?

This should be fun as you try to weave in your silliness about the top 5% and small business owners.
 
#46
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droski said:
if mccain somehow beat obama the dow would immediately go up 10%. don't think this drop doesn't have anything to do with the obamanation.
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Will there also be mass hiring.Will the world markets also go up 10% is the rest of the world that scared of Obama presidency.
 
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DAVOL said:
Will there also be mass hiring.Will the world markets also go up 10% is the rest of the world that scared of Obama presidency.
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who gives a crap about the rest of the world? and yes the stock market going up does help hiring because among many other reasons many companies us it as a leading indicator of economic health.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
why don't you walk me down the little linkage from the demand you're talking about (which is, admittedly, a bit baffling) to index pricing?

This should be fun as you try to weave in your silliness about the top 5% and small business owners.
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How do you figure that you don't need demand for business. Notice how pay phones have basically disappeared wonder why.
 
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