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#27
#27
Volhoops said:
These guys have the basketball IQ that their coaches give them. You're not born with IQ it is taught.
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It can be taught to some degree but only over a long period of time. Not enough time yet to expect CM to have effected the IQ IMO
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#28
#28
BruinVol said:
It can be taught to some degree but only over a long period of time. Not enough time yet to expect CM to have effected the IQ IMO
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I can buy this argument, but I'm seeing so little improvement that it's hard to stay patient. It's the same mistakes over and over again.
 
#29
#29
Teams go as pg's go. Our last 3 have been Maze, Goins and Trae. Never thought I'd miss Maze. Trae just looks lost at times and appears to not want the ball when the full court pressure starts, as he floats away from the passer.
The current pg is too easy to game plan for. Take away his right hand, or force him wide on the hedge on a pick. When Skylar is penetrating and dishing more than your pg, it's trouble.
 
#31
#31
Tennessee got the stops when they had to. That is a good sign. Even if it was against a weak opponent. Hopefully, they will build on this and improve. Sometimes a little confidence can do wonders.
 
#32
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pl3 said:
Teams go as pg's go. Our last 3 have been Maze, Goins and Trae. Never thought I'd miss Maze. Trae just looks lost at times and appears to not want the ball when the full court pressure starts, as he floats away from the passer.
The current pg is too easy to game plan for. Take away his right hand, or force him wide on the hedge on a pick. When Skylar is penetrating and dishing more than your pg, it's trouble.
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If Bobby Maze was on this team, this team is 7-3. Which is saying something.
 
#34
#34
SeanJean said:
For what it's worth, I see nothing to encourage me that CCM knows what he is doing out there. This team has the exact same issues it did last year in terms of defense and shot selection. I see 0 improvement in that department, and if anything, it's often worse. Maymon looks like the only guy out there who has played basketball for more than a week.
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Rome wasn't built in a day. Chill out and let's give CCM some time to change the culture of these guys. It's going to take more than 10 games to do this, probably more like 2-3 seasons. I like CCM so far and think he will eventually get these young guys to play the way he wants them to play. Remember, he took Missouri St. from under .500 to league champs in 3 years. If he gets Jarnell Stokes on THursday, this will be a huge boost to our program and will start to get things on the right track for CCM
 
#35
#35
Volhoops said:
I don't know if anybody is watching but Golden is not a point guard. That being said CM better bench him on the next 3-point shot he puts up.
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Golden came to UT as a shooting guard and had to change to PG. I think he would be a great SG. Hopefully Cuonzo can get a PG in the JC ranks for next season and GOlden can move to SG.
 
#36
#36
Good stuff. I do think Maymon is worth a mention with the spark he provided in the second half.

Also, Rucker tweeted during the game that Golden is having trouble adjusting to having to break down more talented defenses, and it's throwing off his entire game (including his shot). Seems to have the ring of truth, and if it is, we just have to hope the game slows down for him.
 
#37
#37
zjcvols said:
Unless he's injured (and I'm pretty sure he's not), I can't imagine he is going to make an impact next year when he could be doing that now. JMO.
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Decision to redshirt was made before the season started.
Kid only played 3 years of organized ball,so probably working on fundamentals. Martin said his perimeter game.
The way Martin talks they have plans for him next year.
 
#38
#38
I agree with the OP and the follow up posts on the first page. Golden needs to forget the jump shooting. Drive and feed. Stay conservative on the perimeter and stay focused. He had a turnover standing around with the ball acting cool. Get better PG play as they go and develop Maymon/Hall low and Tatum high for his set shot. If McRae and Woolridge start to bring some game - the team could get much better.

Good win for where they have been lately.
 
#39
#39
zjcvols said:
If Bobby Maze was on this team, this team is 7-3. Which is saying something.
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Maybe 8-2. It's no coincidence that our best tournament run came with Maze running the point. Been an Achilles Heel for the better part of five years
 
#40
#40
I think Chievous will be able to contribute immediately. I think his game will be DeAndre Liggins-esque. As long as he can play some tough D, he will be able to effectively defend any guard in the SEC. Pretty athletic too.
 
#41
#41
SeanJean said:
For what it's worth, I see nothing to encourage me that CCM knows what he is doing out there. This team has the exact same issues it did last year in terms of defense and shot selection. I see 0 improvement in that department, and if anything, it's often worse. Maymon looks like the only guy out there who has played basketball for more than a week.
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I think right now you expect too much. Most of these kids haven't seen a ton of playing time until now. McRae, Maymon and Hall hardly played at all last year. Golden probably played what 2-4 minutes a game. Tatum has the most experience of anyone on the team. McBee is second. Other than that, these kids might as well all be freshman. Give Martin some time. He has to start getting his type of players in here to be truly successful.
 
#42
#42
Chris4Vols22 said:
I think Chievous will be able to contribute immediately. I think his game will be DeAndre Liggins-esque. As long as he can play some tough D, he will be able to effectively defend any guard in the SEC. Pretty athletic too.
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Martin calls him one of the toughest kids on the squad so maybe that means tough on d, hopefully.
 
#43
#43
Agree with your game assessment ZJC. I would also add that this is the first game that we have won when trailing in the second half, and we were down by a significant margin, even if it was UNCA. That is an improvement we have yet to see this season.

Defense was much better. We finally won the TO battle and dominated the defensive boards. We still allowed them to shoot a relatively high %, but not so high we couldn't overcome it by winning the TO battle and having the defensive rebounding edge.

Kenny played much better. I have been hard on him, and he showed up tonight.
 
#44
#44
cncchris33 said:
Agree with your game assessment ZJC. I would also add that this is the first game that we have won when trailing in the second half, and we were down by a significant margin, even if it was UNCA. That is an improvement we have yet to see this season.

Defense was much better. We finally won the TO battle and dominated the defensive boards. We still allowed them to shoot a relatively high %, but not so high we couldn't overcome it by winning the TO battle and having the defensive rebounding edge.

Kenny played much better. I have been hard on him, and he showed up tonight.
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Think they worked harder at getting the ball inside also. 32 points in the paint
 
#45
#45
zjcvols said:
That's not on Martin.

That's because these guys were overrated out of high school, and the combined basketball IQ on this team is 50.
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and 30 of that is in the 2 guys he has coming off he bench (Yemi, Washpun)
 
#46
#46
Volhoops said:
These guys have the basketball IQ that their coaches give them. You're not born with IQ it is taught.
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Incorrect. IQ is a measure of ability to learn and apply knowledge not a measure of how much you know. When scouts say a kid has high football or basketball IQ they are not saying the kid had great coaching they are saying the kid just flat out understands the game.

You cannot coach IQ. You just can't Just like some folks have a natural knack for numbers or with tools or computers. Some folks pick things up faster than others.. that is what IQ is.
 
#47
#47
pimo1 said:
Incorrect. IQ is a measure of ability to learn and apply knowledge not a measure of how much you know. When scouts say a kid has high football or basketball IQ they are not saying the kid had great coaching they are saying the kid just flat out understands the game.

You cannot coach IQ. You just can't Just like some folks have a natural knack for numbers or with tools or computers. Some folks pick things up faster than others.. that is what IQ is.
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I disagree. Of course, some kids are born with more instinct, which helps the ball iq, but ball iq can be taught at an early age. Simple things as cutting, boxing, spacing, anticipation can be taught as early as 8 years old with some kids. Usually, coaches sons have higher basketball iq's. That's because they are always being taught.
 
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