Racism

#51
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lawgator1 said:
I don't think its ridiculous. I've always noticed Drudge picking the worst possible photos of people on the left to try to exaggerate their foibles or to take advantage of stereotypes. I think the one yesterday was pretty blatant. Today's less so, but in combination with yesterday's I think its pretty apparent what's going on.
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busted. He's sending Obama down the toilet with these incendiary photos. What's he gonna do next, show Obama drinking water?
 
#52
#52
lawgator1 said:
I don't think its ridiculous. I've always noticed Drudge picking the worst possible photos of people on the left to try to exaggerate their foibles or to take advantage of stereotypes. I think the one yesterday was pretty blatant. Today's less so, but in combination with yesterday's I think its pretty apparent what's going on.
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Why do you keep going to Drudge and Fox News if you feel they are so disreputable.

I'm guessing you go looking for things to be offended by and see everything through that filter.
 
#54
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volinbham said:
Why do you keep going to Drudge and Fox News if you feel they are so disreputable.

I'm guessing you go looking for things to be offended by and see everything through that filter.
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he's drawn to it. Probably similar to the reason he's on VN so much. He figures sleeping with the enemy keeps him on his toes.
 
#55
#55
volinbham said:
Why do you keep going to Drudge and Fox News if you feel they are so disreputable.

I'm guessing you go looking for things to be offended by and see everything through that filter.
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I stopped watching Fox News a week ago when it became apparent to me that they are reporting only on the Dow and ACORN and nothing else.

They really should change their name to ACORNsucks News because it is 24/7 on there.
 
#56
#56
Okay, unfortunately I've been thinking about this assertion.

Why on earth would Drudge try to make the "spook" association? Do people not know that Obama is black? Will they see the ghost and say "wow! I never noticed before but Obama is black"? I'm sure that's the reason for the photo - to inform the populace that Obama is black.
 
#57
#57
lawgator1 said:
I stopped watching Fox News a week ago when it became apparent to me that they are reporting only on the Dow and ACORN and nothing else.

They really should change their name to ACORNsucks News because it is 24/7 on there.
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I don't watch Fox, but I'm guessing they report the Dow less than the mainstream guys right now.

I'm also guessing that you're dead wrong about what Fox reports and that you really find CNN to be quality stuff.
 
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#58
lawgator1 said:
I stopped watching Fox News a week ago when it became apparent to me that they are reporting only on the Dow and ACORN and nothing else.

They really should change their name to ACORNsucks News because it is 24/7 on there.
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I watch it every now and then, there has been some stuff on ACORN and Ayers, Pailin, Obama, and McCain over the past four or five days.

I also watched MSNBC just for kicks to see what their coverage was like. It was Pailin "Trooper Gate" and what she did was illegal, more Pailin, McCain and his campaign and the "smear tactics".

I watched CNN and found them to be the most balanced, they covered all the stories and ignored none.

Fox was second they covered the stories but focused more on Obama and the Ayers and ACORN (exception was the night when the findings of the trooper gate investigation)

MSNBC was last. They focused only on McCain and Pailin negatively, they avoided all the stories that concern Ayers or ACORN. They are not a news outlet at this point, they are so biased that any semblance of objectivity is impossible to comprehend.
 
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#59
volinbham said:
Okay, unfortunately I've been thinking about this assertion.

Why on earth would Drudge try to make the "spook" association? Do people not know that Obama is black? Will they see the ghost and say "wow! I never noticed before but Obama is black"? I'm sure that's the reason for the photo - to inform the populace that Obama is black.
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further, it's to scare that portion of the population afraid of a black president. Couldn't be any other reason for this visual barrage we're witnessing.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
further, it's to scare that portion of the population afraid of a black president. Couldn't be any other reason for this visual barrage we're witnessing.
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I think it is more a reflection of Drudge making the comment he really wants to make but knows he cannot. Or should not.

He can simply say its a photo, not taken by him, and its of a presidential candidate. What's the big deal? No one can see into his intent other than him, but if I were asked to surmise it based on what I've seen in the past, combined with these photos, I'd say he is a racist and has found a way to express that and to also tap into it in other folks without actually saying it.


I agree with those that say that the McCain campaign has on some occassions been unfairly accused of such things. But I think it is also the case that they aren't stopping it as much as they could (they have been better in the last few days or so, I would agree).

There is a lot of race baiting out there. When folks like Sharpton and Jackson continually claim it is the reason for something when the facts show otherwise it just weakens the case on those occassions when it really is a factor.

Some people will vote against Obama because he's black and some will vote for him because he's black. That is an inevitable part of the country growing up and out of these issues. But I'd like to think that those either in power or with a national and even international stage wouldn't play to it, on either side. And of course that is just not the case.
 
#61
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lawgator1 said:
And today Drudge has a photo of Obama holding a ghost placard. A "spook" association intended?

I think its a bit of a conicidence that he has a photo of him kissing a white woman one day and then the photo today. I know a lot people will think its a reach, but putting the two together I am suspicious of the symbolism.
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I didn't see that at all but given Drudge's history of trying to push buttons, it's possible., Still, that ghost could easily be associated with robe-clad kkk memeber. It's a classic case of Orwell's doublespeak.
 
#62
#62
lawgator1 said:
There is a lot of race baiting out there
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lawgator1 said:
And today Drudge has a photo of Obama holding a ghost placard. A "spook" association intended?

I think its a bit of a conicidence that he has a photo of him kissing a white woman one day and then the photo today. I know a lot people will think its a reach, but putting the two together I am suspicious of the symbolism.
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I finally agree with you. There is a lot of race baiting out there - your posts are proof.
 
#63
#63
volinbham said:
I finally agree with you. There is a lot of race baiting out there - your posts are proof.
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I figured someone would look at this very superficially and make that claim about my pointing these photos out.

1) I agree that there is too much race baiting.

2) An effect of race baiting is that it diminishes the force of calling out racism when it really happens.

3) I think what Drudge is doing is intentional and racist.

'nuff said.
 
#64
#64
volinbham said:
Okay, unfortunately I've been thinking about this assertion.

Why on earth would Drudge try to make the "spook" association? Do people not know that Obama is black? Will they see the ghost and say "wow! I never noticed before but Obama is black"? I'm sure that's the reason for the photo - to inform the populace that Obama is black.
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Drudge knows exactly what he's doing. He's simply trying to be provocative, cause controversy, drive traffic. Ultimately, he'd really like some sort of over-reaction from the left that will drive white voters away from democrats, at the same time, creating publicity for himself. Drudge is smart and knows that white Americans are sensitive to what they view as unfounded charges of racism. He's looking for a reaction. LG, sadly, is taking the bait.
 
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notverycrucial said:
Drudge knows exactly what he's doing. He's simply trying to be provocative, cause controversy, drive traffic. Ultimately, he'd really like some sort of over-reaction from the left that will drive white voters away from democrats, at the same time, creating publicity for himself. Drudge is smart and knows that white Americans are sensitive to what they view as unfounded charges of racism. He's looking for a reaction. LG, sadly, is taking the bait.
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I'm not going to argue with this, you may be right.

Won't be long before Rush and Hannity are talking about this, and that will just give them a platform for continuing the effort in the guise of protecting the First Amendment from unwarranted criticism of Drudge.
 
#66
#66
lawgator1 said:
I'm not going to argue with this, you may be right.

Won't be long before Rush and Hannity are talking about this, and that will just give them a platform for continuing the effort in the guise of protecting the First Amendment from unwarranted criticism of Drudge.
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Every thing wrong with the world is because of Rush, Hannity and Matt Drudge.
 
#67
#67
lawgator1 said:
I'm not going to argue with this, you may be right.

Won't be long before Rush and Hannity are talking about this, and that will just give them a platform for continuing the effort in the guise of protecting the First Amendment from unwarranted criticism of Drudge.
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If we have quasi-educated people out there discussing this and making pronouncements like "I think what Drudge is doing is intentional and racist" then they should absolutely be discussing it and mocking all proponents of the idea. It's sensationalist garbage that can't be refuted when someone takes such a stand that begins with "I believe it."
 
#68
#68
lawgator1 said:
I'm not going to argue with this, you may be right.

Won't be long before Rush and Hannity are talking about this, and that will just give them a platform for continuing the effort in the guise of protecting the First Amendment from unwarranted criticism of Drudge.
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Don't worry about it. This stuff was scripted months ago. Yes Drudge still has significant influence over mainstream media narratives, but his power has diminished significantly since 2004. Yes, Mark Halperin once admitted that "Drudge rules our world" but I wonder to what extend that is still true.
 
#69
#69
BigPapaVol said:
If we have quasi-educated people out there discussing this and making pronouncements like "I think what Drudge is doing is intentional and racist" then they should absolutely be discussing it and mocking all proponents of the idea. It's sensationalist garbage that can't be refuted when someone takes such a stand that begins with "I believe it."
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Not sure they should, but they definitely will. And that's what Drudge was aiming for. btw, both sides play this game now.
 
#74
#74
BigPapaVol said:
If we have quasi-educated people out there discussing this and making pronouncements like "I think what Drudge is doing is intentional and racist" then they should absolutely be discussing it and mocking all proponents of the idea. It's sensationalist garbage that can't be refuted when someone takes such a stand that begins with "I believe it."
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You seriously think it was just conicidence that he ran a photo of the black presidential candidate kissing the white woman? That was the best photo they had lying around to tag to the stroy -- one with him just lurching over to the side like that and you can see about a quarter of his face?

Please.
 
#75
#75
lawgator1 said:
You seriously think it was just conicidence that he ran a photo of the black presidential candidate kissing the white woman? That was the best photo they had lying around to tag to the stroy -- one with him just lurching over to the side like that and you can see about a quarter of his face?

Please.
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remind me again how it matters?

the demographic that you're implying he's speaking to seriously read Drudge regularly?
 
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