Raleigh comments on the team

#26
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I'm hoping for a great season....obviously I want us to do the best we can....but unfortunately the head man has proven over and over that he can't lead this program
 
#27
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TNVols58 said:
I'm hoping for a great season....obviously I want us to do the best we can....but unfortunately the head man has proven over and over that he can't lead this program
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I disagree.

In 2010 they had a poor start, and could have just given up. They did not, and not many would of thought the Vols would still have a chance to make it into the SEC Tournament in the last week of the season.

The third year looked like it was going to be the year the Vols returned to the SEC Tournament, and to glory. In the 4th year of Raliegh the Vols will do what they could not last year get into the SEC Tournament, and not have it come down to the last week of the season by winning SEC games in the 1st half.
 
#28
#28
Fire....I'm looking at the facts.....fact is when haven't made the postseason in 3 years which is dreadful....once Raleigh actually can make an appearance in Hoover or the NCAAs I'll start to respect him
 
#29
#29
firestorm said:
I disagree.

In 2010 they had a poor start, and could have just given up. They did not, and not many would of thought the Vols would still have a chance to make it into the SEC Tournament in the last week of the season.

The third year looked like it was going to be the year the Vols returned to the SEC Tournament, and to glory. In the 4th year of Raliegh the Vols will do what they could not last year get into the SEC Tournament, and not have it come down to the last week of the season by winning SEC games in the 1st half.
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I'm still not convince that you aren't TR. He has talent every year but he coaches them down. He is a jerk and has not clue how to motivate young men or bring a team together to succeed. He may have baseball knowledge but he is an ineffective and coach and a terrible human being. He has another great group of players this year and I know they want to win in spite of him. He is fortunate the NCAA transfer rules are so restrictive or he would have lost a ton of players. I wish the very best to the Vols baseball team and hope they have a winning season. But I will be glad to see TR gone.
 
#30
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gvillvol said:
I'm still not convince that you aren't TR. He has talent every year but he coaches them down. He is a jerk and has not clue how to motivate young men or bring a team together to succeed. He may have baseball knowledge but he is an ineffective and coach and a terrible human being. He has another great group of players this year and I know they want to win in spite of him. He is fortunate the NCAA transfer rules are so restrictive or he would have lost a ton of players. I wish the very best to the Vols baseball team and hope they have a winning season. But I will be glad to see TR gone.
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I'm not TR.

Excellent you think he can't bring them together because Friday the season starts, and I'm confident the Vols will win 10-12 of their first 15.

Ineffective. They demolished the Dawgs 25-5, and swept them the worst team in the SEC that had one of the worst year's.
 
#31
#31
If we win 10 of our first 15 you can't really consider that a success....we're playing pathetic OOC games early in the year

You have to win AT LEAST 12 to consider it a success
 
#32
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TNVols58 said:
If we win 10 of our first 15 you can't really consider that a success....we're playing pathetic OOC games early in the year

You have to win AT LEAST 12 to consider it a success
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Again we are going to disagree.

In my opinion the ideal start is winning 10-12 of their first 15. I consider that a success because when you play your first 15 home games to start the season you should get 10 or more wins.
So are all these teams only a little better than Georgia.
 
#33
#33
Firestorm, I understand your point. Winning the first 10 to 12 games would be great for the team, but what your not getting is how bad this will be for the team RPI. Ands that's what the NCAA looks at when selecting teams for the tournament. We are supposed to beat these teams at home so it won't help too much, but a loss kills or two or three kills you. Even early in the year.
 
#35
#35
10-5 is a bad start because we've lost 5 games to AWFUL teams

I don't think I'll be able to handle being on this board during the season with Firestorm...I can already see us losing 3 out of 4 OOC games and there's Firestorm to make up every excuse in the book...he's DEFINITELY either a player, player's parent, or a coach....no doubt about it
 
#36
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TNVols58 said:
I don't think I'll be able to handle being on this board during the season with Firestorm...I can already see us losing 3 out of 4 OOC games and there's Firestorm to make up every excuse in the book...he's DEFINITELY either a player, player's parent, or a coach....no doubt about it
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Message boards would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed. Besides, we've all managed to put up with you without complaining. :)
 
#37
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Freak said:
Message boards would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed. Besides, we've all managed to put up with you without complaining. :)
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I've complained at length about his negativity. He rarely acknowledges my replies. He must have me on ignore. I'm very glad to have Firestorm around the Baseball Forum. He brings a positive attitude and a hopeful feeling to this upcoming season.

GO VOLS and GO Firestorm!!!!
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#38
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Hobock said:
I've complained at length about his negativity. He rarely acknowledges my replies. He must have me on ignore. I'm very glad to have Firestorm around the Baseball Forum. He brings a positive attitude and a hopeful feeling to this upcoming season.

GO VOLS and GO Firestorm!!!!
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I agree that a little optimism is good for the forum, and Firestorm appears to be a solid poster.

However, I can also understand how some are very frustrated with the direction of the program the past few years and opt to take a wait and see approach this season.

Just four days away.
 
#39
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Freak said:
I agree that a little optimism is good for the forum, and Firestorm appears to be a solid poster.

However, I can also understand how some are very frustrated with the direction of the program the past few years and opt to take a wait and see approach this season.

Just four days away.
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Firestorm is solid.

I've been just as frustrated as everyone else on here. TNVols58 puts alot of effort in brow-beating a team that he says he loves. I don't think he's ever gotten over the fact that Hammy didn't fire TR at the behest of his failed e-mail.
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#40
#40
Hobock....I understand what you're saying about my negativity but I think I've been right on EVERYTHING I say about the program with Raleigh running it

What good has happened in the last 3 years of Raleigh ball that would get me to be optimistic? Sure, we ALMOST got the 8 seed in the SEC Tourney, but we collapsed and didn't....we haven't made the postseason in 3 years...there's just nothing good that's happened with the program in the last few years

It'd be different if I was being negative about UT basketball for instance.....if I was saying Pearl should be fired for our recent 3 game losing streak....then I would be sounding crazy

I've always been a huge fan of UT baseball, but it's been hard to enjoy it over the last 3 years....all I've been asking for is change at the top because I think this program should be top 25 every year with the instate HS talent.....you'd be hard to find a bigger fan than me.....but the status quo with the program right now is unacceptable
 
#41
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TNVols58 said:
10-5 is a bad start because we've lost 5 games to AWFUL teams

I don't think I'll be able to handle being on this board during the season with Firestorm...I can already see us losing 3 out of 4 OOC games and there's Firestorm to make up every excuse in the book...he's DEFINITELY either a player, player's parent, or a coach....no doubt about it
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No if we lose we lose no excuses.

When the Vols lost to the Crimson Tide in extra innings they had no one to blame but themselves. Failure to get a base hit for the winning run.
 
#42
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VolsSportsFan said:
And UT baseball is close to what it has been in the past?
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I would say this season would answer that.

While they did not make it to the SEC Tournament it was the 9-10 losing record in games decided by two runs, more than two series for them to get wins in the SEC, and a poor first half was to much for the Vols to overcome.
When a team comes close to making it to the Playoffs by coming back in the 2nd half they make it to the Playoffs the next year. I've seen in NFL so I don't see why it can't happen in College Baseball.

The Vols aren't going to show potential for what they could have been in the 2nd half, the last series but get off to a fantastic start with their first 15, and showing the doubters, and the US they have returned to glory.

Baseball Anxious for Season Opener | UT Sports TV

This is a ballsy team playing with a chip on their shoulder. I'm glad they were picked to finish 5th in the division, and 6th because it will make it that much sweeter when they finish better than 6th, and 5th.
 
#43
#43
firestorm said:
I disagree.

In 2010 they had a poor start, and could have just given up. They did not, and not many would of thought the Vols would still have a chance to make it into the SEC Tournament in the last week of the season.

The third year looked like it was going to be the year the Vols returned to the SEC Tournament, and to glory. In the 4th year of Raliegh the Vols will do what they could not last year get into the SEC Tournament, and not have it come down to the last week of the season by winning SEC games in the 1st half.
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I wouldn't consider returning to the SEC tournament returning to glory. We should have never had a problem making the SEC tourney. We never had this much trouble before Raleigh making it to our own conference tourney. If he can't put this team in the top 8 in the SEC for once during his time here he should be GONE.
 
#44
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tcarroll90 said:
I wouldn't consider returning to the SEC tournament returning to glory. We should have never had a problem making the SEC tourney. We never had this much trouble before Raleigh making it to our own conference tourney. If he can't put this team in the top 8 in the SEC for once during his time here he should be GONE.
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I'm not saying getting into the SEC Tournament is returning to glory.
They finish in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, win the SEC Tournament, win in regionals, super regionals, and make it to the CWS that is returning to glory.
They have not been to the CWS since 2005, and have not won a game in the CWS since the 2001 season.
 
#45
#45
firestorm said:
I would say this season would answer that.

While they did not make it to the SEC Tournament it was the 9-10 losing record in games decided by two runs, more than two series for them to get wins in the SEC, and a poor first half was to much for the Vols to overcome.
When a team comes close to making it to the Playoffs by coming back in the 2nd half they make it to the Playoffs the next year. I've seen in NFL so I don't see why it can't happen in College Baseball.

The Vols aren't going to show potential for what they could have been in the 2nd half, the last series but get off to a fantastic start with their first 15, and showing the doubters, and the US they have returned to glory.

Baseball Anxious for Season Opener | UT Sports TV

This is a ballsy team playing with a chip on their shoulder. I'm glad they were picked to finish 5th in the division, and 6th because it will make it that much sweeter when they finish better than 6th, and 5th.
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I do appreciate the positivity in all honesty but at the same time I think you're seeing what you want to see and being selective in what you analyze. Again I point out you say Michigan wasn't near their old glory but they were closer to their "glory" than UT baseball has been. They made a bowl game which was an improvement, while UT's improvement was marginal and they still failed to make the postseason.

I think the "playing with a chip on their shoulder" is cliched and usually very overstated. It's a line Fulmer used a lot and you see how that usually ended. 2002 in particular and that year was a disaster. My thinking is why werent' you playing with a "chip on your shoulder" last year when you were coming off a bad season the year before?
 
#46
#46
Why is baseball the only sport where some fans would accept 8th place?

8th place sucks! and right now we aren't even at the suction level. (we blow?)

8th place means we are behind some questionable athletic departments like Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Miss State, Arkansas. Hell Auburn and Alabama only give a damn about one sport and they often finish ahead of the Vols.

The men's programs at UT has won more conference titles than any other school! Why do we let mediocre people run any of our teams? Why are Todd Raleigh and John Tremble STILL running the baseball and swimming program into the ground?

There's a reason we are expected to finish LAST. We have less than SEC caliber talent all over the diamond and we still have a coach who's hire made college baseball people openly laugh.

To win in the SEC, you have to have good talent and good coaching. We have neither. Why should anyone be optimistic? Because our guys are "scrappy"? Because our coach says this year will be different? Because the scrappy guys have a new lounge and locker room?

As a White Sox fan I make fun of Cub fans for blindly following a team and owners who could care less about winning, Is it karma that my alma mater is seemingly doing the same?
 
#47
#47
VolsSportsFan said:
I do appreciate the positivity in all honesty but at the same time I think you're seeing what you want to see and being selective in what you analyze. Again I point out you say Michigan wasn't near their old glory but they were closer to their "glory" than UT baseball has been. They made a bowl game which was an improvement, while UT's improvement was marginal and they still failed to make the postseason.

I think the "playing with a chip on their shoulder" is cliched and usually very overstated. It's a line Fulmer used a lot and you see how that usually ended. 2002 in particular and that year was a disaster. My thinking is why werent' you playing with a "chip on your shoulder" last year when you were coming off a bad season the year before?
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When you are picked to either finish 5th, or 6th when this team was one hit from winning the 2nd game against the Crimson Tide, and likely would have won game three while the Wildcats had one more win than the Vols but still lost to the Dawgs for their only sec win that is disrespect.
Because when you have a bad season is it's not a surprise that there are predicitons to not finish in 5th, or 6th.
 
#48
#48
firestorm said:
I'm not TR.

Excellent you think he can't bring them together because Friday the season starts, and I'm confident the Vols will win 10-12 of their first 15.

Ineffective. They demolished the Dawgs 25-5, and swept them the worst team in the SEC that had one of the worst year's.
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I say even with their terribly weak schedule, they don't go 10 for 15. And I don't understand that last comment at all. Georgia was even more terrible than us last year. Your writing skill convinces me even more of the fact that you are TR! lol
 
#49
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gvillvol said:
I say even with their terribly weak schedule, they don't go 10 for 15. And I don't understand that last comment at all. Georgia was even more terrible than us last year. Your writing skill convinces me even more of the fact that you are TR! lol
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You said TR is ineffective I gave a example that show's it's inaccurate with demolishing the Dawgs.





Hello they beat one of the worst team's in the SEC, and College baseball. If you want to say Raleigh is so ineffective than why did the Vols demolish the worst team in the SEC the Dawgs their only SEC Win against the UK Wildcats, come back from a poor start, have one of the best 2nd half records, a winning season for the first time since 2005 correct if I am wrong, and in the final series were one hit from beating the Crimson Tide and could have won game three.

You could say Dan Hawkins was ineffective as the Colorado Buffaloes head coach because they didn't even have a single winning season.

The problem was not beating bad teams, it was beating the not bad team's Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, and Alabama. They also won the series against Vandy, Kentucky even those team's finished ahead of the Vols.
 
#50
#50
I love this line that keeps on being used:

in the final series were one hit from beating the Crimson Tide and could have won game three.

If, if, if....
 
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