Ramsey for governor!!

[VolFan32]

gs I usually agree with you on almost everything. However, not on this. All I hear Ramsey have a strong take on is 2nd amendment. I was not impressed with him at the debate (or Wamp for that matter). I'm sick of people attacking Haslam just because he happens to have money. Both of them sound bitter. I think it says a lot about Haslam that he hasn't attacked anyone at any point during this race.

People knock Haslam for giving money to Gore back in '88. Gore in '88 is a lot different than Gore now. I'm as Conservative as they come and would still vote and probably give money to Bredesen if he had another term. The man has done a pretty good job while in office.

For me it comes down to jobs. Don't like Wamp at all on this because all he's ever done is be a career politician. Ramsey does have private sector work, but no where near the experience of Haslam.Haslam may not have started Pilot, but he didn't run it into the ground while he was working there; the company flourished and thousands of jobs were created while he was there.

Haslam has been a very good Mayor as well. Yes, he raised property taxes, but they are now back down to the lowest point they've been in 20 years. He took a deteriorating downtown Knoxville and brought it back to life. The area is booming now.

People say he's a moderate. I'm pretty sure that's not a bad thing even if it were the case. He's a fiscally conservative as they come. That's what we need right now.

All that being said, if Ramsey were to win, I'd vote for him. If Wamp wins, I may just not vote. He sounds like a whiny school girl all the time.

 

[golfballs]

gs I usually agree with you on almost everything. However, not on this. All I hear Ramsey have a strong take on is 2nd amendment. I was not impressed with him at the debate (or Wamp for that matter). I'm sick of people attacking Haslam just because he happens to have money. Both of them sound bitter. I think it says a lot about Haslam that he hasn't attacked anyone at any point during this race.

People knock Haslam for giving money to Gore back in '88. Gore in '88 is a lot different than Gore now. I'm as Conservative as they come and would still vote and probably give money to Bredesen if he had another term. The man has done a pretty good job while in office.

For me it comes down to jobs. Don't like Wamp at all on this because all he's ever done is be a career politician. Ramsey does have private sector work, but no where near the experience of Haslam.Haslam may not have started Pilot, but he didn't run it into the ground while he was working there; the company flourished and thousands of jobs were created while he was there.

Haslam has been a very good Mayor as well. Yes, he raised property taxes, but they are now back down to the lowest point they've been in 20 years. He took a deteriorating downtown Knoxville and brought it back to life. The area is booming now.

People say he's a moderate. I'm pretty sure that's not a bad thing even if it were the case. He's a fiscally conservative as they come. That's what we need right now.

All that being said, if Ramsey were to win, I'd vote for him. If Wamp wins, I may just not vote. He sounds like a whiny school girl all the time.

Great Post! :good!:

 

[gsvol]

You and I are on the same side here, I just think Haslam can and will buy the nomination and the Governor seat.

Hopefully the last year and a half has been a wakeup call to people and they will pay just a bit more attention to what is going on politically.

Buying elections has been a bur under my saddle since 1968 at least.

gs I usually agree with you on almost everything. However, not on this. All I hear Ramsey have a strong take on is 2nd amendment. I was not impressed with him at the debate (or Wamp for that matter). I'm sick of people attacking Haslam just because he happens to have money. Both of them sound bitter. I think it says a lot about Haslam that he hasn't attacked anyone at any point during this race.

People knock Haslam for giving money to Gore back in '88. Gore in '88 is a lot different than Gore now. I'm as Conservative as they come and would still vote and probably give money to Bredesen if he had another term. The man has done a pretty good job while in office.

For me it comes down to jobs. Don't like Wamp at all on this because all he's ever done is be a career politician. Ramsey does have private sector work, but no where near the experience of Haslam.Haslam may not have started Pilot, but he didn't run it into the ground while he was working there; the company flourished and thousands of jobs were created while he was there.

Haslam has been a very good Mayor as well. Yes, he raised property taxes, but they are now back down to the lowest point they've been in 20 years. He took a deteriorating downtown Knoxville and brought it back to life. The area is booming now.

People say he's a moderate. I'm pretty sure that's not a bad thing even if it were the case. He's a fiscally conservative as they come. That's what we need right now.

All that being said, if Ramsey were to win, I'd vote for him. If Wamp wins, I may just not vote. He sounds like a whiny school girl all the time.

How is Gore different now than in '88?

I've had a few beers with the dad of Bredesen's campaign manager, Bredesen isn't all bad but he is a greedy sob imo, he came down here like a carpet bagger and he got rich in the HMO business and he was as stingy as scrooge with his own money when it came to charity.

My opposition to the Haslam family goes way way way back, I can't prove it in court but I believe they have had some very unsavory allies and that's how they came by their money. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that topic. (Our last lawyer died in an 'accident.')

Don't think I'm a republican fanatic, Frank Clement was one of the best governors in Tennessee history, I used to visit his brotherinlaw fairly often, a man who piloted 35 missions over Europe during WWII, a great man.

Frank Clement did more for higher education in Tennessee than probably any other governor including Alexander.

I believe Ramsey would make an immeasurably better governor than Haslam.

How can you support Haslam with his endorsement from Romney. Romneycare was almost a model for Obamacare, is that what you want in Tennessee??

Who do you expect to take the best stand on enforcing immigration policy, Ramsey or Haslam??

 

[CardassianVol]

I would vote for my dog before I'd vote for Ramsey. Talking about immigration and guns might win a few votes, but those issues have little to do with running the state of Tennessee. They are election fodder. Which one of our candidates, either Democrat or Republican has come out during this campaign against the 2nd Amendment and for illegal immigration? The man has nothing but rhetoric. I'd hate to see what this state would look like after four years of Ramsey. He strikes me as a good ol' boy wannabe moron. Of course, that is just my opinion. Disagree? Vote. For the record, I'll probably vote for Haslam.

 

[JFreak]

"If Washington doesn't like it, we'll just give 'em the boot". Haha yes, Mr. Ramsey lets please secede. :crazy:

 

[gsvol]

I would vote for my dog before I'd vote for Ramsey. Talking about immigration and guns might win a few votes, but those issues have little to do with running the state of Tennessee. They are election fodder. Which one of our candidates, either Democrat or Republican has come out during this campaign against the 2nd Amendment and for illegal immigration? The man has nothing but rhetoric. I'd hate to see what this state would look like after four years of Ramsey. He strikes me as a good ol' boy wannabe moron. Of course, that is just my opinion. Disagree? Vote. For the record, I'll probably vote for Haslam.

I'd vote for your dog before I'd vote for Haslam.

I'd vote for McQuerter before I'd vote for Haslam.

Is your dog yeller??

 

[gsvol]

Great Post! :good!:

What's great about it other than you support Haslam?

 

[Arclight]

Better than the alternative reach across the aisle moderates. Voting for moderates will get you in trouble.

 

[volfanjustin]

I would vote for my dog before I'd vote for Ramsey. Talking about immigration and guns might win a few votes, but those issues have little to do with running the state of Tennessee. They are election fodder. Which one of our candidates, either Democrat or Republican has come out during this campaign against the 2nd Amendment and for illegal immigration? The man has nothing but rhetoric. I'd hate to see what this state would look like after four years of Ramsey. He strikes me as a good ol' boy wannabe moron. Of course, that is just my opinion. Disagree? Vote. For the record, I'll probably vote for Haslam.

If you like RINOs and the Alexander and Corker types, then go ahead and vote for Haslam. Just don't expect anything more than what we currently have.

 

[golfballs]

If you like RINOs and the Alexander and Corker types, then go ahead and vote for Haslam. Just don't expect anything more than what we currently have.

Is Wamp a RINO?

 

[golfballs]

What's great about it other than you support Haslam?

I'm sick of people attacking Haslam just because he happens to have money.

I'm as Conservative as they come and would still vote and probably give money to Bredesen if he had another term. The man has done a pretty good job while in office.

-I wouldn't go this far, but I think Bredesen has done a great job.

Don't like Wamp at all on this because all he's ever done is be a career politician.

Haslam has been a very good Mayor as well.

He took a deteriorating downtown Knoxville and brought it back to life.

He's a fiscally conservative as they come. That's what we need right now.

All that being said, if Ramsey were to win, I'd vote for him.

If Wamp wins, I may just not vote. He sounds like a whiny school girl all the time.

 

[volfanjustin]

Is Wamp a RINO?

I don't think Wamp is a RINO. I could vote for him in the general. My only worry is that he is a big spender or he really let Bush and Barry trick him into his spending votes when the economy really started heading south.

 

[golfballs]

I've had a few beers with the dad of Bredesen's campaign manager, Bredesen isn't all bad but he is a greedy sob imo, he came down here like a carpet bagger and he got rich in the HMO business and he was as stingy as scrooge with his own money when it came to charity.

My opposition to the Haslam family goes way way way back, I can't prove it in court but I believe they have had some very unsavory allies and that's how they came by their money. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that topic. (Our last lawyer died in an 'accident.')

Frank Clement did more for higher education in Tennessee than probably any other governor including Alexander.

I believe Ramsey would make an immeasurably better governor than Haslam.

How can you support Haslam with his endorsement from Romney. Romneycare was almost a model for Obamacare, is that what you want in Tennessee??

Who do you expect to take the best stand on enforcing immigration policy, Ramsey or Haslam??

Please tell me what is wrong with someone moving to the state of Tennessee to make money? It's unfortunate if he's not very charitable, but that has nothing to do with his performance as Governor.

Are you really insinuating the Haslams of offing a lawyer??

Alexander is a POS, he was a terrible President at UT.

And the Romney endorsement is meaningless to me. Do you think Romney goes around and only endorses candidates who are in favor of universal health care? Ha

As for immigration. Ramsey may do a better job than Haslam, but that isn't a huge issue for me. This is Tennessee, not Texas. Going after illegals is one thing, but I think they need to severely punish the actual businesses that employ them. Is Ramsey willing to go that far?

 

[golfballs]

I don't think Wamp is a RINO. I could vote for him in the general. My only worry is that he is a big spender or he really let Bush and Barry trick him into his spending votes when the economy really started heading south.

He might not be a RINO, but I don't trust him to run the State like I do Haslam

 

[volfanjustin]

He might not be a RINO, but I don't trust him to run the State like I do Haslam

I don't really trust Haslam at all, and I only trust Wamp some.
My order:
1) Ramsey
2) Wamp
3) Haslam

If Haslam is the candidate I will not vote at all in the Gov. race.

 

[tigervol9802]

gs I usually agree with you on almost everything. However, not on this. All I hear Ramsey have a strong take on is 2nd amendment. I was not impressed with him at the debate (or Wamp for that matter). I'm sick of people attacking Haslam just because he happens to have money. Both of them sound bitter. I think it says a lot about Haslam that he hasn't attacked anyone at any point during this race.

People knock Haslam for giving money to Gore back in '88. Gore in '88 is a lot different than Gore now. I'm as Conservative as they come and would still vote and probably give money to Bredesen if he had another term. The man has done a pretty good job while in office.

For me it comes down to jobs. Don't like Wamp at all on this because all he's ever done is be a career politician. Ramsey does have private sector work, but no where near the experience of Haslam.Haslam may not have started Pilot, but he didn't run it into the ground while he was working there; the company flourished and thousands of jobs were created while he was there.

Haslam has been a very good Mayor as well. Yes, he raised property taxes, but they are now back down to the lowest point they've been in 20 years. He took a deteriorating downtown Knoxville and brought it back to life. The area is booming now.

People say he's a moderate. I'm pretty sure that's not a bad thing even if it were the case. He's a fiscally conservative as they come. That's what we need right now.

All that being said, if Ramsey were to win, I'd vote for him. If Wamp wins, I may just not vote. He sounds like a whiny school girl all the time.

Me too.

 

[golfballs]

I don't really trust Haslam at all, and I only trust Wamp some.
My order:
1) Ramsey
2) Wamp
3) Haslam

If Haslam is the candidate I will not vote at all in the Gov. race.

Why do you trust Wamp over Haslam??

Wamp has no executive experience at all, and he is one of the reasons the Republican party is a mess. He is no fiscal conservative. He sat in Washington and tried to stuff all the pork he could into the Appropriation Bills that ran by him. And he voted for the bailouts!! He might be a social conservative, but right now that is relatively meaningless. He can go be a social activist, not a Governor. We need a fiscal conservative first and foremost and someone who is business saavy. That is Bill Haslam - a proven executive, both in the private and public realms.

 

[volfanjustin]

Why do you trust Wamp over Haslam??

Wamp has no executive experience at all, and he is one of the reasons the Republican party is a mess. He is no fiscal conservative. He sat in Washington and tried to stuff all the pork he could into the Appropriation Bills that ran by him. And he voted for the bailouts!! He might be a social conservative, but right now that is relatively meaningless. He can go be a social activist, not a Governor. We need a fiscal conservative first and foremost and someone who is business saavy. That is Bill Haslam - a proven executive, both in the private and public realms.

I don't really trust either of them. I agree Wamp has not been a fiscal conservative, I am hoping that if he gets away from DC that will change, though I really don't believe it will. I don't think Wamp will win the nomination. Haslam is anti-gun and to me he is just a weasel.

 

[golfballs]

I don't really trust either of them. I agree Wamp has not been a fiscal conservative, I am hoping that if he gets away from DC that will change, though I really don't believe it will. I don't think Wamp will win the nomination. Haslam is anti-gun and to me he is just a weasel.

How is Haslam anti-gun?

 

[tigervol9802]

How is Haslam anti-gun?

Haslam was in a gorup called Mayors Against Illegeal Guns that has caused a firestorm that makes some people think he'll have the THP going door to door collecting firearms.

FWIW, Haslam left the group before the NRA even truly attacked it.

 

[volfanjustin]

Haslam was in a gorup called Mayors Against Illegeal Guns that has caused a firestorm that makes some people think he'll have the THP going door to door collecting firearms.

FWIW, Haslam left the group before the NRA even truly attacked it.

Haslam left the group when he was about to run for Governor. Anyone who joins a group with Bloomberg I will not support.

 

[J-P]

I'm still stuck between Ramsey and Haslam, and the way I decide to vote could potentially sway as many as seven other votes in my family, so carry on. I will watch. Does anyone know where I can watch a rerun of the debate? For some reason I only hear about these after they have aired.

opcorn:

 

[volfanjustin]

I'm still stuck between Ramsey and Haslam, and the way I decide to vote could potentially sway as many as seven other votes in my family, so carry on. I will watch. Does anyone know where I can watch a rerun of the debate? For some reason I only hear about these after they have aired.

opcorn:

I don't know where you could watch a rerun, I am sure there will be another debate. Wamp and Ramsey debated on the radio about 2 weeks ago but Haslam was too much of a wimp to show up because he knew they would make him answer the questions and not let him spin. The debate between Wamp and Ramsey was on 99.7 wtn, you may be able to listen to that on their website.

I believe you to be very pro second amendment, right? If so I don't see how you can consider Haslam.

 

[golfballs]

Haslam left the group when he was about to run for Governor. Anyone who joins a group with Bloomberg I will not support.

Haslam has obviously been in public office. What is his track record? What has he actually done to weaken or suppress the 2nd Amendment??

 

[golfballs]

I believe you to be very pro second amendment, right? If so I don't see how you can consider Haslam.

Why? Tell me how Haslam is "anti-gun"?