Ramsey for governor!!

#51
#51
J-P said:
I'm still stuck between Ramsey and Haslam, and the way I decide to vote could potentially sway as many as seven other votes in my family, so carry on. I will watch. Does anyone know where I can watch a rerun of the debate? For some reason I only hear about these after they have aired.

:popcorn:
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure post #26 in this thread is the best reasons to vote for Haslam that I have seen. I've lived and worked in and around Knoxville for over a decade. It's hands down that downtown Knoxville is a much better place than it was when he took office. Even his biggest detractors in Knoxville cannot argue that.

If you want someone who has executive experience running a pretty large and successful company, has a pretty good track record as a fiscal conservative as a mayor of a city, and is probably the most qualified to increase business in TN, then Haslam is your guy.

If your main issues are that you are worried the next governor may take or limit your gun ownership rights or will work hand in hand with Obama at every turn, then you probably need to vote for Ramsey.

It's as simple as that.
 
#52
#52
tigervol9802 said:
If your main issues are that you are worried the next governor may take or limit your gun ownership rights or will work hand in hand with Obama at every turn, then you probably need to vote for Ramsey.
Click to expand...

I don't agree. If this is the main issue, you could vote for any of the candidates and be ok.
 
#56
#56
J-P said:
I'm still stuck between Ramsey and Haslam, and the way I decide to vote could potentially sway as many as seven other votes in my family, so carry on. I will watch. Does anyone know where I can watch a rerun of the debate? For some reason I only hear about these after they have aired.

:popcorn:
Click to expand...

If they both were on the New York city council which one do you think would be more likely to approve a building permit for a mosque at ground zero, Haslam or Ramsey??

Personally I would never vote for anyone who had ever agreed with anything the flaming liberal Bloomberg stood for.
 
#58
#58
gsvol said:
If they both were on the New York city council which one do you think would be more likely to approve a building permit for a mosque at ground zero, Haslam or Ramsey??

Personally I would never vote for anyone who had ever agreed with anything the flaming liberal Bloomberg stood for.
Click to expand...

I doubt that.

Mosque at ground zero? What does that have to do with being Governor of Tennessee?
 
#60
#60
volfanjustin said:
SayUncle » Bloomberg comes to town
Click to expand...

The key word is "illegal". That is what the statement of principles that Haslam signed said. Now whether the group actually abides by their state principles is another thing. They apparently do not, and Haslam left.

I think it is a very far stretch to say that Haslam is anti-gun. His involvment came on the heels of the Virginia Tech shootings, and was done in good faith. He is not anti-gun.
 
Last edited:
#62
#62
I am not against Ramsey. I think he is a fine candiate and conservative, but I prefer Haslam.

I would not be dissappointed if Ramsey took the nomination, but I don't think he will.
 
Last edited:
#63
#63
golfballs03 said:
The key word is "illegal". That is what the statement of principles that Haslam signed said. Now whether the group actually abides by their state principles is another thing. They apparently do not, and Haslam left.

I think it is a very far stretch to say that Haslam is anti-gun. His involvment came on the heels of the Virginia Tech shootings, and was done in good faith. He is not anti-gun.
Click to expand...

My feeling is he left the group pretty close when he decided to run for Governor.

The group wants to shut down the gun show loophole and wants to restrict states rights to let people in a state carry.
 
#64
#64
volfanjustin said:
My feeling is he left the group pretty close when he decided to run for Governor.

The group wants to shut down the gun show loophole and wants to restrict states rights to let people in a state carry.
Click to expand...

I think his run for Governor was a consideration when he left the group. However, I don't think he was trying to mask some anti-gun tendency he has. I think he will support 2nd amendment rights in Tennessee.

I personally think that all sellers at a gun show should be required to perform background checks.

And the carry issue is that they are lobbying against reciprocity with other states concealed carry permits... This is a state issue. I would be surprised if Haslam truly supported a Federal law prohibiting reciprocity.
 
#65
#65
golfballs03 said:
I doubt that.

Mosque at ground zero? What does that have to do with being Governor of Tennessee?
Click to expand...

Because of federal policies every state in the union will be dealing with creeping sharia on ever increasingly important social, financial, legal and security issues from now on.

What would make me want to vote for Haslam?
(serious question, why do you support Haslam?)

For another thing Haslam has the endorcement of Mitt Romney, what does Massachusetts have to with Tennessee??

Massachusetts Meltdown A Model For ObamaCare

During the health care debate, President Obama claimed his proposal was similar to RomneyCare, passed in 2006 in Massachusetts under then GOP Gov. Mitt Romney.

Unfortunately, RomneyCare portends a bleak future for the U.S. under ObamaCare. Little by little, the system is falling apart in Massachusetts under the weight of ever-increasing costs:
---------------------------------------

Politicians in Massachusetts are now like a pig in a poke, according to the WSJ: “The deeper problem is that price controls seem to be the only way the political class can salvage a program that was supposed to reduce spending and manifestly has not."

"Massachusetts now has the highest average premiums in the nation.”
Click to expand...

How does that grab you??
 
#66
#66
Yeah, I am no fan of Romney for that reason, but his endorsement doesn't mean that Haslam is for a system like RomneyCare.

I am so grateful that a Democrat had the courage to clean up TennCare like Bredesen did.

No Republican in Tennessee will make that mistake again.
 
#67
#67
golfballs03 said:
Fiscal responsibility and economic growth are my main issues.

My avatar is Bennie Wylie
Click to expand...

Humor me and pardon my ignorance, who is Bennie Wylie?

As for fiscal responsibility and economic growth Ramsey has much more experience at the state level, Haslam has none.

Knoxville has been in boom town mode for quite a while, anyone who would have been the mayor of Knoxville would look good today.






golfballs03 said:
I am not against Ramsey. I think he is a fine candiate and conservative, but I prefer Haslam.

I would not be dissappointed if Ramsey took the nomination, but I don't think he will.
Click to expand...

I keep asking, why do you prefer Haslam? You have to have some sort of reason.

If Haslam does win the Republican nomination then prepare to have a democrat governor!!

Haslam fits every negative stereotype the democrats use.

1. Bush oil man.

2. Greedy republican.

The democrats won't be playing as nicely as the other republican candidates have.

Iowa group airs ads in Tennessee accusing Haslam of price gouging The Commercial Appeal

Knoxville-based Pilot Corp. was one of 16 companies and individuals that settled with the Tennessee attorney general over gas prices that ranged between $4.69 and $5.98 per gallon during Hurricane Ike in 2008.

Gas prices peaked at Pilot stations in Knoxville at $4.99 a gallon. Pilot was also fined in Georgia and Kentucky.

Haslam was president of Pilot until he was elected Knoxville mayor in 2003. But he maintains an unspecified stake in the company.

Ryan said his group is concerned over Haslam's refusal to divulge how much he earns from his part ownership of Pilot.

Haslam's campaign has said releasing his Pilot earnings would reveal personal information about the income of family members not running for office, and proprietary information about the company with annual revenues of $16 billion.

"We firmly believe Tennesseans have been harmed by Mr. Haslam's Pilot Corp. when they did price gouge," Ryan said. "And certainly Mr. Haslam profited at the expense of Tennessee families."
Click to expand...





volfanjustin said:
My feeling is he left the group pretty close when he decided to run for Governor.

The group wants to shut down the gun show loophole and wants to restrict states rights to let people in a state carry.
Click to expand...

I always thought it a bit fishy about the feds prosecuting some of the guys in Knoxville who were buying and selling at gun shows, no doubt Haslam had a hand in that.






golfballs03 said:
I am not against Ramsey. I think he is a fine candiate and conservative, but I prefer Haslam.

I would not be dissappointed if Ramsey took the nomination, but I don't think he will.
Click to expand...

I keep asking, why do you prefer Haslam? You have to have some sort of reason.



volfanjustin said:
My feeling is he left the group pretty close when he decided to run for Governor.

The group wants to shut down the gun show loophole and wants to restrict states rights to let people in a state carry.
Click to expand...

I always thought it a bit fishy about the feds prosecuting some of the guys in Knoxville who were buying and selling at gun shows, no doubt Haslam had a hand in that.
 
#68
#68
gsvol said:
Humor me and pardon my ignorance, who is Bennie Wylie?

As for fiscal responsibility and economic growth Ramsey has much more experience at the state level, Haslam has none.

Knoxville has been in boom town mode for quite a while, anyone who would have been the mayor of Knoxville would look good today.

I keep asking, why do you prefer Haslam? You have to have some sort of reason.

If Haslam does win the Republican nomination then prepare to have a democrat governor!!

Haslam fits every negative stereotype the democrats use.

1. Bush oil man.

2. Greedy republican.

The democrats won't be playing as nicely as the other republican candidates have.

Iowa group airs ads in Tennessee accusing Haslam of price gouging The Commercial Appeal

I always thought it a bit fishy about the feds prosecuting some of the guys in Knoxville who were buying and selling at gun shows, no doubt Haslam had a hand in that.
Click to expand...

Bennie Wylie is Tennessee's strength and conditioning coach.

I have been giving reasons that I prefer Haslam. I think he is a true conservative and I prefer his executive experience. I think that is a proven. I like a lot of what Ramsey says and stands for, and as a legislator, that is great. But transitioning to the executive side is different, and that is where Haslam stands out to me. Ramsey may make a fine Governor, but I don't think he can win this race, and I certainly don't want Wamp.

Democrats might run a negative campiagn based on those things, but it won't work. I think this vote will be solid R.
 
Last edited:
#69
#69
golfballs03 said:
Yeah, I am no fan of Romney for that reason, but his endorsement doesn't mean that Haslam is for a system like RomneyCare.

I am so grateful that a Democrat had the courage to clean up TennCare like Bredesen did.

No Republican in Tennessee will make that mistake again.
Click to expand...

Bredesen cleaned up TennCare and cleaned up in the health care business also, profiting by at least $60 million early on.

I'll tell where a lot of the money disappears to, profiteers in the medical supply business, for instance all the hospitals in Nashville buy nearly all of that sort of stuff through one well connected supply house.

They regularly bill $1,000 for a back brace that should sell for about $19.95. And that's just one example.
 
#70
#70
gsvol said:
Bredesen cleaned up TennCare and cleaned up in the health care business also, profiting by at least $60 million early on.

I'll tell where a lot of the money disappears to, profiteers in the medical supply business, for instance all the hospitals in Nashville buy nearly all of that sort of stuff through one well connected supply house.

They regularly bill $1,000 for a back brace that should sell for about $19.95. And that's just one example.
Click to expand...

Oh yeah, that problem isn't limited to just Tennessee. It's outrageous.
 
#72
#72
golfballs03 said:
Bennie Wylie is Tennessee's strength and conditioning coach.
Click to expand...

I knew it someone I should have known.

He doesn't look like a guy who goes in for Yoga. :good!:

Havn't been keeping up with the program, just waiting for the dust to settle.

Good news is football season is just around the corner. :)

Other good news, I've screamed about having a special teams coach for years under Fulmer and now it looks we may have a good one, the one Kiffin had didn't exactly light my fire.

Dooley's special teams coach, Eric Russell has been coaching special teams for eight years, among his accomplishments:

1. At North Texas his special teams blocked 14 punts, including 7 in one year.

2. At Louisiana Tech that team was the top rated in the nation in 4 different special teams categories.

3. At Texas Tech they were one of the top teams in the nations in kickoff returns and kickoff coverage.

Russell thinks a big part of special teams success is getting the right guys on special teams and since Dooley puts an emphasis on special teams, Eric should be able to get the guys he wants.




golfballs03 said:
I have been giving reasons that I prefer Haslam. I think he is a true conservative and I prefer his executive experience. I think that is a proven. I like a lot of what Ramsey says and stands for, and as a legislator, that is great. But transitioning to the executive side is different, and that is where Haslam stands out to me. Ramsey may make a fine Governor, but I don't think he can win this race, and I certainly don't want Wamp.

Democrats might run a negative campiagn based on those things, but it won't work. I think this vote will be solid R.
Click to expand...

Don't be too confident that wide spread ant-government feeings in the electorate will translate to pro-republican sentiment come November.

Ramsey started his own company as a young man and made it work, even making short term loans to meet payroll and still owns a small comapny that is profitable.

Haslam has nothing on Ramsey in that category other than the fact that his family owns a very big oil company. (And I for one question just how they gained that position in the beginning.)

Inheriting an oil company is one thing, running a farm or any small business and making a living is another, give me the farmer small businessman, Ronald Lynn Ramsey.

Ramsey touts experience as farmer, small business owner in stump speeches Knoxville News Sentinel

A fourth but lesser known candidate, Joe Kirkpatrick of Mt Juliet (suburb of Nashville) recently declared he is dropping his candidacy to support Ramsey.
--------------------------------
An early version of the state Senate Republican budget plan this year called for cutting agriculture enhancement grants.

Ramsey said that was because urban legislators did not understand the history of the program - its origins involve money received from settling lawsuits with tobacco companies while farmers' ability to rely on tobacco as a cash crop was disappearing - and "how really important it is" to farmers.

Ramsey said he was instrumental in changing the initial grant-cutting attitude to see that funding for the program continued in the final version of the budget that was enacted.
------------------------------

Ramsey said he is the only candidate to have a handgun carry permit or a lifetime Sportsman's license, which is basically a permanent hunting and fishing license
------------------------------------------

Ramsey became the state's first Republican in 140 years to serve as lieutenant governor and speaker of the Senate.

He now keeps a portrait of the last Republican Senate speaker, Dewitt Senter of Grainger County, on his Nashville office wall. Senter served just one two-year term, 1866-67.
------------------------------

As for party activism, Ramsey contends that no other current state officeholder has done as much to advance the Republican cause in shifting the Legislature from Democratic to Republican control.

He was involved in virtually every Senate race that led to the transition, both in plotting strategy and raising money. Ramsey in 2003 was one of the first legislators to establish a personal political action committee and used it to spend $476,000 on GOP causes in 2008 alone.
Click to expand...

I think Haslam would be more like a limosine liberal such as Frist but Ramsey will be much more down to Earth and be able to see things from the perspective of the everyday citizen of Tennessee.

Ramsey has shown the ability to reach across the aisle and get support from Democrats also.

Ramsey is going to win.
 
#73
#73
Haslam is no limosine liberal. Ha. Where does that come from? Ramsey isn't a farmer. He might have milked cows in high school, but that doesn't make him a farmer. Also running a real estate business is the same thing Wamp did. Running a large company like Pilot is on another level. And what's with your skepticism of how they were successful? Is that just gut instinct?

Ramsey has a ton of ground to make up. And I don't see it happening

BTW, what the heck is an "agricultural enhancement grant"? Who qualifies, who are it's main recipients, and what is it supposed to do?
 
#74
#74
golfballs03 said:
Check out the polling:
RealClearPolitics - 2010 Tennessee Governor Race

Haslam has a bigger lead over McWherter than Wamp or Ramsey.

And Ramsey is running 3rd in the Primary.
Click to expand...

I don't trust polls all that much and a heck of a lot can change by November.

If Haslam wins I'm going to write in whatchacallit's dog in November if he will tell me his dog's name, otherwise I'll just write 'Fido.'
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top