Rand Paul: We’re Becoming ‘Militarized Zone’ in D.C., Have to ‘Resist’ Rapid Loss of Civil Liberties in a Crisis

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Vol737 said:
Just peacefully burning businesses and buildings to the ground. Good times.
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When did I approve of riots by the Floyd protestors ? Don't recall saying that any violence by them was acceptable or shouldn't be prosecuted.

But this is what you do. When people are justifiably outraged by Trump and his cult invading the Capitol and beating and killing people, shouting that they wanted to kill government officials as they breached the place, you deflect with the absolutely weakest comparison of the two situations.

Both were wrong and should be prosecuted, but what Trumpsters did was magnitudes worse than what the rioters last summer did.
 
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lawgator1 said:
When did I approve of riots by the Floyd protestors ? Don't recall saying that any violence by them was acceptable or shouldn't be prosecuted.

But this is what you do. When people are justifiably outraged by Trump and his cult invading the Capitol and beating and killing people, shouting that they wanted to kill government officials as they breached the place, you deflect with the absolutely weakest comparison of the two situations.

Both were wrong and should be prosecuted, but what Trumpsters did was magnitudes worse than what the rioters last summer did.
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I don’t approve either - at all, but “magnitudes”? Multiple people lost their life by proxy related to the riots this past year, businesses gone forever - insurance doesn’t often cover riots - billions in damage, buildings were total losses and the threatening of residents within these cities. I’m not quantifying anything as “worse”, but nobody on the left, hardly any Dem officials gave a rats ass at all wrt the events of last year. Now they’re the most concerned people on the planet because they’re getting a taste of what the “little people” had to put up with. And now the whole left cares. They wouldn’t give a rats ass either if it had been Trump that won re-election and the Capitol got stormed by BLM and Antifa. Convince me I’m wrong.
 
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lawgator1 said:
When did I approve of riots by the Floyd protestors ? Don't recall saying that any violence by them was acceptable or shouldn't be prosecuted.

But this is what you do. When people are justifiably outraged by Trump and his cult invading the Capitol and beating and killing people, shouting that they wanted to kill government officials as they breached the place, you deflect with the absolutely weakest comparison of the two situations.

Both were wrong and should be prosecuted, but what Trumpsters did was magnitudes worse than what the rioters last summer did.
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No it wasnt.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Both were wrong and should be prosecuted, but what Trumpsters did was magnitudes worse than what the rioters last summer did.
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Minneapolis
$1 billion to $2 billion — possibly making them the most expensive in US history, an industry group says.
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Riots following George Floyd’s death may cost insurance companies up to $2B

Cost this owner $1M to rebuild.
Barbarawi begged the city to protect his property. But he said he was told the police and fire departments couldn’t reach the building until 6 a.m. By that time, Chicago Lake Family Dental was in ruins.

“Why didn’t the city help us?” asked Barbarawi, who said it will cost about $1 million to rebuild the business. “They could have stopped this. I feel the city has a responsibility to protect not only the people but the businesses as well.”
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For riot-damaged Twin Cities businesses

Cost this guy $140,000 to get the debris removed.
One day after rioters destroyed the Sports Dome retail complex in St. Paul, a construction crew hired by the city knocked the building down because it was dangerously unstable.

Then the city presented the property owners with a $140,000 bill for what it would cost to haul away the debris.
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Skyrocketing demolition costs for riot-damaged Minneapolis

Rioters burned, looted or vandalized nearly 1,500 Twin Cities businesses
Rioters burned, looted or vandalized nearly 1,500 Twin Cities businesses, the letter stated, with estimated damages exceeding $500 million – the second most expensive riots in the United States after the 1992 Los Angeles civil unrest following the police beating of Rodney King.

Walz requested President Donald Trump “declare a major disaster for the State of Minnesota because of extensive fire damage to public infrastructure caused by civil unrest.”

A preliminary damage assessment calculated $15.6 million in fire-related eligible damages.
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Gov. Walz requests federal funding after riots caused $500 million in damage

Portland
estimated $23 million in damage and lost business in downtown Portland since the protests began.
Night after night, groups of demonstrators advocating against racial injustice and police brutality gather in downtown Portland. The protests have been occurring regularly for about six weeks.

Portland Police Bureau Deputy Chief Chris Davis says there has been an estimated $23 million in damage and lost business in downtown Portland since the protests began.
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Protests cost $23 million in damage, lost business, Portland police say

So lets say 1,023,000,000; 1B for Minneapolis and 23M for Portland. That's not including anything on other riots. Yet the one in D.C. was magnitudes worse then the ones in the summer? No offence, but I sure wouldn't want you as my lawyer over anything to do with money and basic rights.

You "condemn" both, but the red hats need shot. In other words kill everyone that don't see it my way. As long as my people do the burning its ok and is needed to remove the bad orange man who cheated his way in with Russian help. Yet if those you don't agree with choose that they need to get their voices heard by going about it the same way, they are traitors and must be shot because there is no way a presidential election could be messed with. I would seek medical help for the bipolar disorder you got running though that brain.
 
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C1500 said:
Minneapolis

Riots following George Floyd’s death may cost insurance companies up to $2B

Cost this owner $1M to rebuild.

For riot-damaged Twin Cities businesses

Cost this guy $140,000 to get the debris removed.

Skyrocketing demolition costs for riot-damaged Minneapolis

Rioters burned, looted or vandalized nearly 1,500 Twin Cities businesses

Gov. Walz requests federal funding after riots caused $500 million in damage

Portland
estimated $23 million in damage and lost business in downtown Portland since the protests began.

Protests cost $23 million in damage, lost business, Portland police say

So lets say 1,023,000,000; 1B for Minneapolis and 23M for Portland. That's not including anything on other riots. Yet the one in D.C. was magnitudes worse then the ones in the summer? No offence, but I sure wouldn't want you as my lawyer over anything to do with money and basic rights.

You "condemn" both, but the red hats need shot. In other words kill everyone that don't see it my way. As long as my people do the burning its ok and is needed to remove the bad orange man who cheated his way in with Russian help. Yet if those you don't agree with choose that they need to get their voices heard by going about it the same way, they are traitors and must be shot because there is no way a presidential election could be messed with. I would seek medical help for the bipolar disorder you got running though that brain.
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It is interesting, and frankly pathetic, that your comparison of the two is based on estimating the dollar expense. Truly an awful commentary on you thinking.
 
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lawgator1 said:
When did I approve of riots by the Floyd protestors ? Don't recall saying that any violence by them was acceptable or shouldn't be prosecuted.

But this is what you do. When people are justifiably outraged by Trump and his cult invading the Capitol and beating and killing people, shouting that they wanted to kill government officials as they breached the place, you deflect with the absolutely weakest comparison of the two situations.

Both were wrong and should be prosecuted, but what Trumpsters did was magnitudes worse than what the rioters last summer did.
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It’s telling that you people get so bent out of shape about the Capitol but don’t get a F about small private businesses that were burned to the ground
 
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GSD82 said:
They envy those regimes especially the CCP. The pics of the dementia patient surrounded by military only will be very telling
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lawgator1 said:
It is interesting, and frankly pathetic, that your comparison of the two is based on estimating the dollar expense. Truly an awful commentary on you thinking.
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Better than your emotionally driven puke.

His comparison is very useful. Dollars in damage speaks to the quantity of rioters and the lengths they will go to.
 
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Rand Paul referencing that government either over reacts or under reacts like he is not part of government is akin to Fox News pissin’ n moanin about The Media.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
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And now they are there to protect the country after the wannabe dictator Trump’s followers invaded the Capital building to prevent a recurrence as many on this forum seem to want. The collapse of our democracy based on lies you have swallowed
 
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WBO said:
81 million votes.

He would certainly have had a crowd larger than Trump's 2016 inauguration. Trump's first lie as President, that his crowd was larger than Obama's.
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I think Trump’s first lie of his Presidency was in the first instance when he took the oath to uphold and defend the Constitution so help him God. Just a minute or so in to his Presidency
 
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PointGuard said:
And now they are there to protect the country after the wannabe dictator Trump’s followers invaded the Capital building to prevent a recurrence as many on this forum seem to want. The collapse of our democracy based on lies you have swallowed
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Ironic statement since dictators generally have to emplore military force in order to take power. Kind of like what's going on in DC right now.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Ironic statement since dictators generally have to emplore military force in order to take power. Kind of like what's going on in DC right now.
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If you think it’s irony you should at least be complete in the thought. Irony from the self righteous superiority of deniers driven by lying alternative facts continually put out over 4 years by their Cult leader, Dotard
 
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PointGuard said:
If you think it’s irony you should at least be complete in the thought. Irony from the self righteous superiority of deniers driven by lying alternative facts continually put out over 4 years by their Cult leader, Dotard
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Complete thought? It's not my problem you don't possess the mental capacity to read written English. More irony, I'm the dotard....
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is interesting, and frankly pathetic, that your comparison of the two is based on estimating the dollar expense. Truly an awful commentary on you thinking.
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The biggest difference is one incident made the politicians in Washington feel threatened while the others made some no-names far away feel threatened.

It grinds my ass that they make such a big deal about the former but were largely silent - and in some cases, supportive of - the violence in other cities over the summer.

If they truly were governing on behalf of the people they would have been just as eager to use force to protect other people’s properties and lives as they were their own in Washington DC.

And don’t get me started on the defund police movement. Defund police but let’s militarize DC! We’ve got to protect our own asses!!!

Truly sad sacks of ****, the whole lot of them.
 
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