Rank Your Realistic Possible New Coaches

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Franklin Pierce said:
Yes.
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#103
#103
My realistic wishlist is Fortier, Baranczyk, Banghart or Sue Semrau. The first 3 are all up and comers who've established themselves as strong coaches. Semrau always puts together good teams without a roster full of McDonald's All Americans. One of the more underrated coaches in the nation.

Dream list would be Goestenkors, Schaefer or Rueck. No way any of those 3 would come though.

If we go the assistant route again (I hope we don't), I'd be optimistic with Ralph or Ivey.

Love Kara Lawson, but hiring someone with 0 coaching experience is a recipe for disaster IMO. She'd be fantastic as an assistant, although I can't imagine she'd leave her good broadcasting gig to be an assistant at this point unless it was the right situation. Same deal with Catchings.


What I don't want in a coach:
-someone from Pat's coaching tree. There isn't anyone who has proven they are capable of running an elite program. Fargas has been good but her results at LSU aren't impressive, Harper has done well at mid majors but struggled at NC State....if this program wants to succeed, it needs to get out of Pat's shadow and focus on the future rather than live in the past.

-someone who has recent success due to landing some talented kids like Neighbors at Washington, McGuff when he was at Xavier, Tsipis at GW, etc. Please get someone who has proven they can actually coach a team rather than just ride a talented player or two to success without proving they can coach a less talented team. Recruiting will take care of itself at Tennessee. Get someone who can run a half decent offense and develops their players.

-someone with a track record of pushing players out, offering way too many scholarships, or high transfer rates transfers. Ex. Brenda, Walz, Mulkey

-an arrogant/abrasive personality a la Walz, McCallie, Geno
 
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#104
#104
Why not Lin Dunn or Mickie as a short term coach and see where it goes for the long term? No question that these women know basketball and would do Pat's legacy well.
 
#105
#105
Always thought Jody Adams should of taken over after Pat. Great coach but today’s players obviously can’t handle her coaching mentality. The Witchita State situation may have ended her career.
 
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Model12 said:
Why not Lin Dunn or Mickie as a short term coach and see where it goes for the long term? No question that these women know basketball and would do Pat's legacy well.
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How about not hiring someone who's got a foot out the door to retirement? Not to mention both of those have a history of inconsistency as HC.
 
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#108
I swear some of y'all have really got it in your head that our program is a crap hole now. Holly is the reason for that and she'll be gone soon. Let's actually aim high, shall we? I mean Lin Dunn, Mickie DeMoss, Jody freaking Adams? Really? We need someone fairly young, energetic, a hard worker and a good recruiter. None of those fit that mold. Quit acting like nobody would come here, and let's think outside of the Pat Summitt coaching tree box. TN is still a gold mine for women's basketball if it's actually treated as such.
 
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Slydell said:
Born on home by being in the UT system for over 40 years. Keep the hate, if you want, but acknowledge the accomplishments. Or, not.
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hahahahaha, you being serious or a TROLL! She spent those 40 years under PAT SUMMIT a legend that brought the UT Lady Volunteers from unknown to national prominence! Being an assistant doesnt mean a thing as a head coach. Holly worked under the best there ever was and she and her accomplishments were because of that, it would be like saying Josh McDaniels has a bunch of great accomplishments but they are all under Belichick! He went 8-8 and promptly went 3-9 before being fired. Holly is pretty much the same, an ok assistant that has to work under a legend to be considered anything more! So lets see Holly's accomplisments without Pat slydell? she does have 3 elite 8's but if thats good enough for UT it is pretty much like Fulmers 8 is enough contract which is a JOKE! Even the fool Botch Jones got to 8 wins and i would have a hard time letting him coach a peewee team! But Holly has went 79-40 the past 3 plus seasons! That is terrible at UT and pretty much could run Weekend at Bernies out there to have the same record!
 
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volman128 said:
I swear some of y'all have really got it in your head that our program is a crap hole now. Holly is the reason for that and she'll be gone soon. Let's actually aim high, shall we? I mean Lin Dunn, Mickie DeMoss, Jody freaking Adams? Really? We need someone fairly young, energetic, a hard worker and a good recruiter. None of those fit that mold. Quit acting like nobody would come here, and let's think outside of the Pat Summitt coaching tree box. TN is still a gold mine for women's basketball if it's actually treated as such.
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You may misunderstand my intentions, and perhaps some other's intentions too. Let me preach on.

I personally like CHW and I wish that we weren't where we appear to be. I certainly wouldn't want her job, and was a little surprised when she elected to follow such a large shadow to the big chair. My dad was a BB coach and said that you were only one bad season away from being cut. Not the life I would choose, but the money in today's world might make it tolerable!

IF she steps down, I assume we would need some continuity to level this broaching ship. Steady hand at the tiller, if you will. We cannot survive by making a hasty hire of the "next hot thing" and get it wrong. Imagine if we had not hired Dooley and taken our time for the right guy. None of us can forget the fiasco a year ago when we were spurned by almost everyone we approached. I could make the case that "TN is a gold mine for football and we should aim high. Butch was the problem and he's gone". We did aim high and everyone gave us the bird, and they all got raises from their own school. We were a national embarrassment. God knows I don't like listening to my out of state friends give me the business on how to conduct a coaching search. I'm sure we all agree that this hire (if it occurs) would be critical for the health and longevity of the program. Question is...how?

Old time fans that have supported the program for 30 years will demand and expect a smart hire. You do, and so do I. CPF should be doing his job to make sure that occurs. We have made hires that have not worked out (the 3 FB coaches before Pruitt, plus Tyndall come to mind), and I don't want any more "Hart or Currie" type of crapshow/fishing expeditions either. I'm certainly with you on the "young, energetic, hungry, recruiter", but that rarely equates to "successful and proven". It's usually one or the other, with a 10% chance that you get both.

In an ideal world, we are lockstep, but WHO is the next young Saban? Geno? Pat? K? Wooden? If I knew, I would buy a lottery ticket tonight. I'd even share it with you, cause I'd be headed to Partygeddon and EEEEEEVVVVERYBODY is invited!

We'll get there.
 
#112
#112
Also there are far fewer elite WCBB programs than there are football programs so I don't understand the comparison to football. TN was THE premiere WCBB program for many years and up until right before Pat's retirement it was one of the two most historically prestigious programs in the country. It's not like football where there are easily 10-15 elite programs.
 
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glv98 said:
We may have found one constructive thing HW has contributed; IMO the experience with her has moved us away from any mandate that the next coach be from the LV family. Of course there's a few diehards that will never accept anything else, but I'm pretty sure most of us are so burned by the Holly era that we now want the best fit, not the closest kin. If it works out that the best choice is from the fam that's great, but qualifications can now come first.

I also disagree with the notion that we can't call for the outster of the current regime without offering a realistic replacement, something im hearing frequently on local sports media. Bullfeathers! Its one of the great things about being a fan/paying customer. My job is to let the AD know when I'm finding going to games and supporting the team way more painful than enjoyable. Their job is to fix it and make me want to buy season tickets again. If I'm mad at the checkout person at WalMart I tell the manager, but I don't have to find their replacement.

That said, I don't have to but I will voluntarily throw out my current faves. I think we're at least a coach away from the longterm solution so I'm thinking a bridge coach for about 3 seasons. This program is in such disarray it needs an older, established, confident, proven coach to right the ship before handing off to a younger, on fire coach. Give me Wes Moore or Gail G, with Becky Hammon the wild card that might be both the bridge and the future.
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Can we not find the Rick Barnes of women’s basketball?????
 
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37620VOL said:
Speaking of Chatman, would she be an option? She has to be on thin ice with Indiana.
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Chatman will never coach in the NCAA again. Think Tyler Summitt. Might as well scratch her off your list. The allegations against Chatman were that she had a sexual relationship with a player that began when the player was a member of the team Chatman was coaching. Chatman huffed and puffed and there was a lot of "former player" BS tossed around on message boards but all that "former" meant was that Chatman continued the relationship after the player left the school. Chatman threatened to sue and ended up settling for chump change.
 
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#121
Shes tough enough for the NBA - she might have a touch of Summit in her which is what we need
Offer Hammon 7 figures and I bet she would come
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I can't imagine Hammon would jettison her position as a high profile NBA assistant with a chance to maybe (maybe) be a head coach in a larger capacity one day, just to come to Tennessee. I cannot see it. No matter how much pride people feel for this program, she has carved her own unique career out at the top rungs of basketball and isn't done yet. No reason on Earth for her to walk away from that.
 
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Voltopia said:
I can't imagine Hammon would jettison her position as a high profile NBA assistant with a chance to maybe (maybe) be a head coach in a larger capacity one day, just to come to Tennessee. I cannot see it. No matter how much pride people feel for this program, she has carved her own unique career out at the top rungs of basketball and isn't done yet. No reason on Earth for her to walk away from that.
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*EDIT* - I take it back, she apparently has entertained offers.

Hammon turns down Florida, per Swish Appeal

I suppose if someone were to offer her enough money and control, maybe. But sure looks like it'd have to be in the 500-750 range to even start a conversation. I'd still wonder if she'd ever do it. The opportunity to continue in the NBA won't stick around forever.
 
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Yes- and I can see why she would turn down Florida- UT maybe a little more her liking- Popovich thinks shes one of the best but even so its an uphill battle to be HC in the NBA for anyone including a great woman coach Im sorry to say- she would be deserving
 
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Voltopia said:
*EDIT* - I take it back, she apparently has entertained offers.

Hammon turns down Florida, per Swish Appeal

I suppose if someone were to offer her enough money and control, maybe. But sure looks like it'd have to be in the 500-750 range to even start a conversation. I'd still wonder if she'd ever do it. The opportunity to continue in the NBA won't stick around forever.
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Someone of Hammon's age, energy and abilities would be perfect, IMO. And I think Pat would very much approve of her pioneering spirit.

HAMMON, HAMMON, HAMMON!!!!!!!!!!
 
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