Realistic program goals for the next four years.

#51
#51
2013- 6 or 7 regular season wins and a bowl game
2014- 7 or 8 regular season wins(loss of offensive line) and a bowl game
2015- 10 or 11 regular season wins competing for the east and quality bowl game.
2016- 10 or 11 regular season wins competing for the east and hopefully an SEC Championship!
 
#52
#52
I think the O-line will be fine in 2014. Most of the backups should see some serious playing time this year. And Tiny might not leave after this year. He seems to love it at UT.
 
#53
#53
Its been stated many times if butch is a championship coach year two statistically should be huge improvement over year one.

If he only wins 8 games year two he is going to be avg joe for us at best.

Is that what we want? He should win 8 this year
 
#54
#54
im just not going to get worried about 2014 OL yet - that is just way down on the list of concerns imo

if Tiny stays we would have 2 seniors and 3 RS JR's as likely OL starters in 2014 - really not worried at all about that

I am much more worried that 1 of the QB's steps up and is a leader and a game changing type player - if that happens that can cure a lot of other ills - hoping Peterman can be that guy

the DL in 2014 is also much more concerning than the OL - we will be very light after graduating basically every DT and DE this year

the LB core is also very concerning to me - there were popular names on the backs of the jerseys last year but our LB play was atrocious - this scares me 2013,2014 and beyond until we start landing some LB's that can run - just landing Vereen (who i really like) is not enough to ease the concern this year - we needed 3 Vereen's
 
#55
#55
92volalum said:
Its been stated many times if butch is a championship coach year two statistically should be huge improvement over year one.

If he only wins 8 games year two he is going to be avg joe for us at best.

Is that what we want? He should win 8 this year
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AP W
WKU W
Oregon
Florida
S Bama W
Georgia
SCjr
Bama
MO W
Aubie W
Vandy W
UK W

I don't see 8 reg season wins - the ones above would be 7 - and that would include beating a WKU petrino team that i think will be a tight game - also MO and Vandy who we lost to last year
 
#56
#56
i think 2013 should have a 7 - 8 win season counting the bowl win and must beat either fla or bama away from home.

2014 - we should have 8 wins minimum and a bowl appearance.

2015- we should be in the hunt to win it all and quite frankly this program needs a national title by 2016 at the absolute latest.
 
#57
#57
92volalum said:
Its been stated many times if butch is a championship coach year two statistically should be huge improvement over year one.

If he only wins 8 games year two he is going to be avg joe for us at best.

Is that what we want? He should win 8 this year
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No truth in what you are saying.
 
#58
#58
I'll be happy enough for now if we can just make it to the goals listed for 2014 in the OP. I can't remember the last time we beat a quality SEC opponent.
 
#61
#61
No, I remember now.....We beat both GA and SC in 2009 under Kiffin. Can't believe that dude owns our only watershed moment over the last 6 years....
 
#63
#63
Will we have a better football team in 2014 compared to this year after losing a lot of offensive linemen and a few good defensive players? I think our real chance of a breakout year will be 2015
 
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#64
#64
govols105 said:
i think 2013 should have a 7 - 8 win season counting the bowl win and must beat either fla or bama away from home.

2014 - we should have 8 wins minimum and a bowl appearance.

2015- we should be in the hunt to win it all and quite frankly this program needs a national title by 2016 at the absolute latest.
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can't wait to read all of your panicked threads over the next couple of years
 
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#66
Ertel said:
Scary thing is that with the way they recruit they still have as much talent as almost anyone in the country. Were gonna have to severly outcoach them if were going to win one in the next 3 years. Hopefully by then we will have the talent they do if all goes as planned for butch.
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If we had a defense last year we win 8-10 games. We are alot closer to being "back" than I think people/national media think we are. (check losses to top 15 teams ) the only game we were truly out of was to spammer.
 
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#67
govols105 said:
i think 2013 should have a 7 - 8 win season counting the bowl win and must beat either fla or bama away from home.

2014 - we should have 8 wins minimum and a bowl appearance.

2015- we should be in the hunt to win it all and quite frankly this program needs a national title by 2016 at the absolute latest.
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Agree with 13/14, 2015 will be a bit of a stretch. National title? I'd say reaching a top bowl (orange, rose, sugar etc would be a great accomplishment IMO.

But I like where your head is at.
 
#68
#68
JettVol said:
If we had a defense last year we win 8-10 games. We are alot closer to being "back" than I think people/national media think we are. (check losses to top 15 teams ) the only game we were truly out of was to spammer.
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tennessee is not close to being back.

it's going to take time.
 
#69
#69
99gator said:
tennessee is not close to being back.

it's going to take time.
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Is the talent discrepancy really that major from UT and other SEC teams??? I don't think so at all our starters are comprised of top recruits at their positions and in the country. I saw somebody say 8-10 wins last season with a good D and I think thats spot on and maybe even 11 wins. Look at what Wilcox did in 2011. Same players on this D this year. And we are moving back to a 4-3. I say we win 8 this year depending on the offenses transition. Lots of talent there and it doesn't hurt to have the best O-line in the country for a young QB to start his TN debut as the starter.

The talent is there already Dooley left a solid foundation. It's gonna depend on Butch and Co to get these guys to play within themselves and overcome adversity.

I say 8 wins next year, around the same give or take for 14 and by 15 I'm saying 1st or 2nd in the east. Hopefully by 16 we were are top 5 again. Getting the name and brand out there will depend on this greatly. GO VOLS
 
#70
#70
Too many unknowns this year... Rough like sandpaper. Maybe in 14 we will heading heading out of the tunnel
 
#71
#71
secking said:
Fla will be lucky to win the east while coach Willie is there. They lost a lot on defense this year plus their DC. I easily see 5 losses for them next year. Most of the fla fan base still isn't sold on cwm.
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This sounds like the same chatter going into this past season.
 
#73
#73
BigSteve09 said:
OP if all of that happens I will be extremely happy.

Unfortunately, I'm with the others in the thread that think we're still a while off.

-If we can make a bowl this year, that's improvement enough for me. A win would be nice as well to make it over .500.

-I'd like to see Butch actually fill some holes on both sides of the ball with his first "all Butch" class.

-In his second year I'd like for us to get above .500 again, either with another bowl win, or 7-5 going into the bowl game.

-I think that Butch would have to prove with the next class that we're serious and making moves in the SEC. I don't even care about national recruiting rankings anymore because we could finish top 20 and still land in the bottom half of the SEC. If we finish #7 or higher in SEC recruiting rankings, I think that's making a statement that we're back on our way up.

-Butch should be able to compete in some games hopefully by year 3. 7-8 wins with a signature bowl win would go a long way.

-Again, another recruiting finish in the top 7 of the SEC would provide some consistency on the roster.

-By year 4 we should be back in the 8 wins range. We haven't seen what Butch can do with the team yet on the field, so I have no gauge to which I can associate his success. 8 wins in the regular season is good, 9 wins is great, add a bowl win or major upset and Butch is riding high.


I honestly think that the scenario that I just typed out is really high up there on the "Best Scenario Possible" scale. To think that we'll be BCS competitive within the next 3-4 years is stretching the possibilities of Butch and the team. Maybe it's time for fans to clip the wings on their expectations.

The next 2-3 years aren't going to be awesome, we'll have to find little things here and there to hang out hat on as the team improves.

Unfortunately, at this point, the more elite teams/coaches in the conference have more to do with how soon we'll come back. If Bama, LSU, UGA, SCar, Florida all start to fall off I think we can get a foothold in some of our recruiting areas that we've let slip away. If Clemson, VaTech, Ole Miss, and Auburn trend downwards it would only stand to help us as well.

It's frustrating but we've shot ourselves in the foot and dug a giant hole to climb out of.
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solid post,it is going to take more time than a lot of people think,i don't understand the in 3 years and we will be kicking butt crowd,hopefully I'm wrong,but i don't see that,of course CBJ hasn't even had a practice or a played a game,i do wish him well for sure,I think maybe 5 or 6 wins this year and hopefully a bowl game
 
#74
#74
secking said:
Fla will be lucky to win the east while coach Willie is there. They lost a lot on defense this year plus their DC. I easily see 5 losses for them next year. Most of the fla fan base still isn't sold on cwm.
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UF did lose a lot, particularly on defense and 5 losses is definitely possible. But I think you are wrong about the fan base and CWM--they are now behind him. And you better hope UT gives them one of the L's this year because he will have depth with tough, competitive players after that.
 
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