reasonable defensive minded coachs

[rickyyrs]

And only beaten 2 teams with winning records lol:

That's two more than we have beat. lol:

 

[sonofUT62]

i would rather have gruden bring in a super staff.

But who knows about that.

when you look at our team and our coaching staff the obvious problem is defense and special teams. we need to:

1. Fire Dooley, he will never out coach anyone.

2. Don't fire Chaney. He has done wonders with this offense and we have put up alot of points on good sec defenses this year.
2B. keep all the Offensive coachs the same. I see improvement every on that side of the ball expect for TEs

3. hire a defensive minded coach. I would rather have an ok offense and amazing Defense. We have the worst defense in our existance.
4. demote sal to LB coach. idk if you could do this with out things becoming really wierd. But it would save you some money and he is a good coach
5. clean house on the defensive side. Its obvious why
6.hire a proven coach. You know what. i say we hire VT's coach he has had alot of good seasons there.
And they have always had good special teams.

We just need to hire a good coach period. If we get a defensive guy, we might get an offense like last year. We need to be well rounded. And as far as Chaney, he 's getting a lot of mismatches due to having elite talent at the WR position. WE are running the ball more, but his play calling still is baffling. If he didn't have Hunter and CP he would be screwed. He needs to go to. The fact that nobody wanted him when the other staff members jumped ship is telling.

 

[jc4vols]

Patterson would be HUGE.....I wanted him last time

Strong would be no 2 behind Patterson

 

[Jax_Vol]

And only beaten 2 teams with winning records lol:

He has beaten everyone that they ask him to play

 

[sonofUT62]

This does not mean anything. They have not beaten any solid teams and he has recruited horribly. On top of that, many of his wins have come by small margins. We can't take a chance on somebody else not developing.

His recruiting has been outstanding for a Big East school in the middle of Kentucky. He was also a solid recruiter at UF and has a lot of ties down there.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

Strong would be a major upgrade over Dooley. But I don't see UT going in that direction nor do I see them going after Gruden. He just signed a 5 year contract last year with ESPN. Sean Payton would be a nice hire, but Jerry Jones has deeper pockets than Haslem.

Most high school coaches would be an upgrade over Dooley.

 

[Cyclopskiller]

Silly about Petrino or Stoops

The entire post!

State everything you said again and present the strong points of each suggestion if you feel good about them..

And remember, the strong points have to out weigh the weak points for your argument to be considered viable!

you and I both know that ain't gonna happen..

 

[jc4vols]

No to tubberville he crapped out in SEC

 

[FittyElevem]

Beamer is having his own problems this year and won't make a bowl game.. VT is a dead man walking against FSU on Thursday.

 

[volfan411]

The entire post!

State everything you said again and present the strong points of each suggestion if you feel good about them..

And remember, the strong points have to out weigh the weak points for your argument to be considered viable!

you and I both know that ain't gonna happen..

It has been discussed in previous threads that Stoops is going stale with OU and the facility upgrades he was promised have not taken place. He has been a sucessful coordinator in the SEC and IMO if we are going to spend big money Stoops would listen. Not saying he would take it but we should make him say no.

Tubberville has had sucess in the SEC in the past and I think he would be looking to get back into the SEC. Not sure he has a strong point other than he has won in the SEC and is probably not the sexy hire everyone wants but would be a solid hire.

On Petrino who would you rather have him or Smart? I would go to Strong before either of these 2 but if it came down to the 2 I say Petrino.

 

[Cyclopskiller]

It has been discussed in previous threads that Stoops is going stale with OU and the facility upgrades he was promised have not taken place. He has been a sucessful coordinator in the SEC and IMO if we are going to spend big money Stoops would listen. Not saying he would take it but we should make him say no.

Big game bob. Need I say more?

Tubberville has had sucess in the SEC in the past and I think he would be looking to get back into the SEC. Not sure he has a strong point other than he has won in the SEC and is probably not the sexy hire everyone wants but would be a solid hire.

Scared of nick saban, and will not recruit well enough!

On Petrino who would you rather have him or Smart? I would go to Strong before either of these 2 but if it came down to the 2 I say Petrino.

We agree on this one!

 

[Oskie Volum]

Ok he made 1 good decision out of how many decisions and most of that because he had experience so much turnover. Also don't get ahead of yourself Chaney didn't start call good games until the GA game and the Alabama game was horribly called also. And Suneri was his hire too is that showing good leadership qualities?

Ok. Well at least you'll give some credit. Sometimes the job of a rebuilder isn't always seen. Something's are just done and it's a thankless job.

I know Sunseri is looking like a horrible decision, but all knew it was going to be a tough yr. this tough of course not but I'm sure things will be looked at in the spring. But let's be honest...no one knows if he was a cdd first choice or hire or a hart hire.

All I'm trying to say is that there were a lot problems with this program and AD as a whole. Takes time to fix and it all can't be done at once. Something's take time to develop. I want stability in the long term and I see that with CDD. I especially don't with the likes of Gruden.

 

[volfan411]

We agree on this one!

I agree with your points and Stoops is a pipe dream and at OU he has 2 big games a year that he tends to lose at least 1 of them. So I am not sure how he would fare here with 5-6 big games a year.

In reality if Dooley is not retained I think we will end up rolling the dice on Smart or Strong.

 

[Herman Hickman]

No Strong..he will be the same as Dooley!!!!!!!!!

Strong earned his way through a traditional promotion process for coaches. He's been a position coach, a coordinator, and a head coach and he's been totally successful in every respect. Dooley has been on the fast-track without ever having to prove himself worthy of the promotions he's earned. Not the same.

Strong has built a program from complete loser to winner in three seasons. That isn't the same as Dooley.

He knows defense. That isn't the same as Dooley.

He recruits Florida and has excellent contacts with high school coaches throughout the state and South Florida in particular. Again, he isn't Dooley in that regard.

He would be a complete upgrade in every respect from what we have now.

 

[Oskie Volum]

Patterson would be HUGE.....I wanted him last time

Strong would be no 2 behind Patterson

Please move on from Patterson. He has it made in FTW and is going to be...wait for it...le-gen-dary there! If tcu was still in the mntn west or even in the big east then there could be a small possibility. But now in the big 12 he has no reason to move. Don't use other people's money either as a reason he would come to UT. Trust me there is plenty of money in FTW to go around, and they don't have to disclose how much he makes either cause they r a private school.

Just move on from him y'all.

Strong isn't going to anything to get this place on track quickly either. He'll have to continue bldg, and there's no patience for that. A new coach needs to be a guaranteed big win guy from day 1 or we are just shooting ourselves in the foot by letting Dooley go before the projected time for the rebuild. Personally I'm patient now but won't be with the next guy especially if he's making 2-3 times more than Dooley. Just all IMHO that's all...

 

[Chilmonty]

At this point I would not mind Petrino too much.

Even though he is, shall we say, "Truth Challenged".





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[Cyclopskiller]

I agree with your points and Stoops is a pipe dream and at OU he has 2 big games a year that he tends to lose at least 1 of them. So I am not sure how he would fare here with 5-6 big games a year.

In reality if Dooley is not retained I think we will end up rolling the dice on Smart or Strong.

Smart is not an option

 

[volfan411]

Please move on from Patterson. He has it made in FTW and is going to be...wait for it...le-gen-dary there! If tcu was still in the mntn west or even in the big east then there could be a small possibility. But now in the big 12 he has no reason to move. Don't use other people's money either as a reason he would come to UT. Trust me there is plenty of money in FTW to go around, and they don't have to disclose how much he makes either cause they r a private school.

Just move on from him y'all.

Strong isn't going to anything to get this place on track quickly either. He'll have to continue bldg, and there's no patience for that. A new coach needs to be a guaranteed big win guy from day 1 or we are just shooting ourselves in the foot by letting Dooley go before the projected time for the rebuild. Personally I'm patient now but won't be with the next guy especially if he's making 2-3 times more than Dooley. Just all IMHO that's all...

So let me get this right you are willing to give Dooley 5-6 years but would expect the next coach to win immediately.

If Bray,Hunter and CP go pro the remaining roster will be worse than what Dooley inherited. The defensive freshmen we have on roster are just to slow and will not be able to compete in the SEC. The next coach would need at least 2 seasons to get a roster on defense to ever compete in the SEC.

 

[MSCE09]

No to tubberville he crapped out in SEC

How so? He had a bad season when a new offensive scheme didn't work out. The real question is: Is Tennessee a step up from Texas Tech right now?

 

[RichRollin]

Mark Dantonio Michigan State.

Was a defensive coordinator for Tressel at Youngstown State. For those who are too young to remember....Youngstown used to be dominant under Tressel.

He was also the DC for the NC Ohio St team under Tressel. Prior to taking the Mich St job he laid the foundation for Brian Kelly at Cinci. Not only is he a great defensive mind, his current DC Narduzzi (sp.) will be a head coach sooner rather than later. These dudes know defense.

He's had back to back 11win seasons at MSU. IMO that's pretty damn impressive being that he followed John L Smith at MSU. He's shown on multiple occasions that he can build programs. Don't be fooled by his record this year...his kicker has cost him 2-3 games.

We could EASILY pay him more than MSU. UT is hands down a better job. He's little brother in his own state. Michigan isn't really much if any better than Tennessee for HS talent. He has to fight Michigan for in state talent and try to sale MSU to Ohio kids which is his most fertile recruiting ground. I'm confident he could keep our kids in state and would have Georgia to recruit just as he's had Ohio up there.

He runs a pro style offense with big bruising backs and play action passes. God I miss those days on the hill.

There's not a shred of doubt in my mind that with UTs resources, he could win here and win big.

I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be 1st on the list. But if I were an AD he would damn sure be on my list. I'm not a Big 10 fan, but I know for damn sure that back to back 11 win seasons don't happen by way of accident. He and Narduzzi would take our current players and have a top 15-20 defense nationally...if not better.

 

[BEATBAMA12]

Whatever the case , all these coaches mentioned will be picked up quick! A decision on a new coach needs to be made soon or there will not be any left.

 

[TNsnyper20]

This does not mean anything. They have not beaten any solid teams and he has recruited horribly. On top of that, many of his wins have come by small margins. We can't take a chance on somebody else not developing.

So much fail. He's recruited extremely well especially on the defense side of the ball. He's beaten ranked teams with far less talent than we have. And his close wins? That's about the only thing you got right...still wins, sill undefeated.

 

[Herman Hickman]

Whatever the case , all these coaches mentioned will be picked up quick! A decision on a new coach needs to be made soon or there will not be any left.

Charlie Strong at Auburn is a scary thought. Not too far away from Florida, and right smack dab in the heart of two of the best states for high school talent in the nation. His strengths as a recruiter would be in full force.

 

[IndianaVolunteer]

I personally would not mind Strong. I am curious to why many of you say he'd be Dooley 2.0!


Care to elaborate? IMO he has a better resume than CDD already.

 

[BEATBAMA12]

Charlie Strong at Auburn is a scary thought. Not too far away from Florida, and right smack dab in the heart of two of the best states for high school talent in the nation. His strengths as a recruiter would be in full force.

Agreed, him and the LaTech coach will be deadly in the SEC , especially ark or auburn