Recruiting Class Predictions (merged)

#51
#51
QB Jesse Scroggins
QB Chase Rettig

RB Orleans Opoku-Darwka

FB Channing Fugate

WR Markeith Ambles
WR Kyle Prater

TE Dakota Mosley
TE Tyler Robinson

OT James Stone
OT Zach Fulton
OT Cameron Clemmons

OG Jose Jose
OG Zach Tait

DE Jacques Smith
DE J.C. Copeland
DE J.R. Ferguson
DE T.J. Stripling


DT Patrick Harris
DT Risean Broussard
DT Evan Hailes
DT John Brown

LB Bruce Irvin
LB Ralph Williams

CB LaMarcus Joyner
CB Tyler Stephenson
CB Kacy Rodgers

S Dion Bailey
S Dietrich Riley

K Corey Acosta (walk-on)

Orange = current commitments

My best guess at this time of how our class ends up. I think that's about a 4th-7th place class.

Nice class Sab!

Four things...

1. That's 29 commitments..drop one of the TE's...I'm thinking Robinson

2. Switch Ambles with Meline and Joyner with Mitchell..

3. I think we take one less CB than you have...replace one of those guys with Shirley at LB

4. With those changes and assuming Stone and Prater play well enough to bump their rating the 0.1 they need for a 5* then you're looking at four 5 stars(Ferguson, Mitchell, Prater, Stone), 10-12 four stars and 12-14 three stars....I have a hard time believing that class would be outside of the top 3 if not #1

Good job though...I put together my own mock class and it was very similar to this....

The thing I like is that none of these are far fetched...we're very much in it for all of them
 
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#52
#52
Nice class Sab!

Four things...

1. That's 29 commitments..drop one of the TE's...I'm thinking Robinson
2. Switch Ambles with Meline and Joyner with Mitchell..

3. I think we take one less CB than you have...replace one of those guys with Shirley at LB

4. With those changes and assuming Stone and Prater play well enough to bump their rating the 0.1 they need for a 5* then you're looking at four 5 stars(Ferguson, Mitchell, Prater, Stone), 10-12 four stars and 11-13 three stars....I have a hard time believing that class would be outside of the top 3 if not #1

Good job though...I put together my own mock class and it was very similar to this....

The thing I like is that none of these are far fetched...we're very much in it for all of them

He edited Acosta as a (walk-on) to make it 28 commitments but I agree with you we take one less CB.
 
#54
#54
Nice class Sab!

Four things...

1. That's 29 commitments..drop one of the TE's...I'm thinking Robinson

2. Switch Ambles with Meline and Joyner with Mitchell..

3. I think we take one less CB than you have...replace one of those guys with Shirley at LB

4. With those changes and assuming Stone and Prater play well enough to bump their rating the 0.1 they need for a 5* then you're looking at four 5 stars(Ferguson, Mitchell, Prater, Stone), 10-12 four stars and 12-14 three stars....I have a hard time believing that class would be outside of the top 3 if not #1

Good job though...I put together my own mock class and it was very similar to this....

The thing I like is that none of these are far fetched...we're very much in it for all of them

Acosta hasn't been offered by anybody. I don't know how much attention he is getting outside of us. We know about him because he's a Memphis kid and we need a kicker. He could get a ride here or somewhere else. I'm just going by what I see now.

Meline wants to play safety and is all but already a Bulldog anyway.

Mitchell...who knows what he is going to do; he could go anywhere. He is a Tampa boy and he likes Monte so that's a pretty good guess.

I think Josh Shirley is going to UCLA.

That could be a top 3 class, but Florida, USC, LSU, and Bama are putting together potential top 5 classes as well.

Not being argumentative, just continuing the discussion.
 
#55
#55
Sab, don't forget Texas. They are putting together a killer team too
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#56
#56
This is the first season I have ever attempted to keep up with recruiting throughout the whole cycle (from NSD to NSD), but I still find myself not knowing much about many of these prospects.

The player pages, master lists and new recruiting ticker are of great benefit, but the enormous and steady amount of information makes it difficult to not only catch up, but then to just keep up with it all.

I'll continue to read through those, but I'd really appreciate if someone could offer some additional insight / background into both those players included in Sab's excellent mock class listing, and possibly others who didn't make the list, but some felt should have.

Either working on Sab's list, or from any other similiar reputable source, here are some examples of information that I'd find helpful and would greatly appreciate:

1. Sab listed those players whom he thinks we'll sign - but how confident is he / are you / we in their actual signing come NSD? For example, the consensus seems to be that some players are "locks", others are "likely locks", unknown, doubtful, etc. Which category do most of you believe them to be in? I want to focus on those players who are most "in-play" so to speak - and not give a lot of time to those who are at opposite ends of the predictive spectrum of either being "locks" or "pipedreams".

2. Who didn't make Sab's list that likely should have? Why?

3. Who made the list that likely shouldn't have? Why?

4. Who are the best (i.e. 4-5 star) and biggest "reaches" who we're after right now, but we have a small chance of actually landing them?

5. Who is most likely to be the biggest pleasant surprise come NSD?

6. Who is most likely to be the biggest dissappointment come NSD?

7. Which players are most likely to commit first, or who may be suspected of having already given a silent commit, if any?

8. Who's most likely just stringing us along, but probably won't give us serious consideration in their final decision?

9. Who are the 3-5 "must-have" players who will set the tone (and likely, most of the ranking / success ) for the 2010 class?

10. Who are the 3-5 players who could have the most immediate and greatest impact on the class (i.e. we would jump or fall several ranks with their signing with us or elsewhere)

11. Who are the players we're essentially settling for because we couldn't get the one we wanted, or who might not be the perfect "fit" but are the best available this season?

12. In looking at the entirety of the potential 2010 class - which schools are going to incur the greatest damage (as we'll take recruits from them) of our renewed recruiting prowess, and which are most likely going to cause us damage (in taking recruits from us)?

Again, I am keenly aware of the many resources available to those such as myself - and I have and will continue to use, enjoy and appreciate them all - but garnering this additional information from those kind souls who may be kind enough to take the time to provide it would also be most appreciated by myself, and likely others.

Thanks in advance, and again, great job on the list, Sab!
 
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#57
#57
Tenn D,

The best thing to do is to keep reading. Look at the post counts on individual recruits on out recruiting forum. Scroggins is closing on 2500 posts, gives you a hintnon his importance. Start watching bids yourself that are posted. You'll start to hear certain names pop up in the conversation over and over again. Sab like me and others are recruiting junkies. We have opinions but none of us really have a clue as to what the final board will look like. Just meteorologists trying to predict weather patterns. Start researching your own answers. Look on Scout and Rivals. Look on GVX, Tharinger, ESPN, CNNSI and other sites. There is a wealth of info. Heck just start on this site. There is more info onthis site than almost anywhere. Good luck. This stuff is a lot of fun
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#58
#58
Coach interviews give us a clue. We know we need a QB, O and D linemen. Look at those threads and start reading. You will pick it up. Look at Scout and Rivals top recruits and see if they have UT offers. It's not hard. Just takes time
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#59
#59
I haven't seen anyone make any comments on landing both Scroggins and Rettig. I assume most feel that we will. That would be awesome, but I am not so sure. I do think we take two QBs, but it might not be those two. I look for Rettig's stock to sky rocket in the next few months and I can't really see him committing if we land Scroggins. I hope Sab's right.
 
#61
#61
Grades and his desire to go to LSU. If he gets an offer he might be gonzo
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#62
#62
This is the first season I have ever attempted to keep up with recruiting throughout the whole cycle (from NSD to NSD), but I still find myself not knowing much about many of these prospects.

The player pages, master lists and new recruiting ticker are of great benefit, but the enormous and steady amount of information makes it difficult to not only catch up, but then to just keep up with it all.

I'll continue to read through those, but I'd really appreciate if someone could offer some additional insight / background into both those players included in Sab's excellent mock class listing, and possibly others who didn't make the list, but some felt should have.

Either working on Sab's list, or from any other similiar reputable source, here are some examples of information that I'd find helpful and would greatly appreciate:

1. Sab listed those players whom he thinks we'll sign - but how confident is he / are you / we in their actual signing come NSD? For example, the consensus seems to be that some players are "locks", others are "likely locks", unknown, doubtful, etc. Which category do most of you believe them to be in? I want to focus on those players who are most "in-play" so to speak - and not give a lot of time to those who are at opposite ends of the predictive spectrum of either being "locks" or "pipedreams".
I'll offer my input here, but others are free to join since I may be biased toward my list.

Of the committed players, the most likely to decommit is Risean Broussard to LSU. I think we have a 75% chance of holding on to him. Second would be Bruce Irvin to UGA, but I think we hold on to him as well. I'll address the rest in another post.


2. Who didn't make Sab's list that likely should have? Why?
I'll answer this in the vein of "could have." RB Michael Dyer (most possible big name RB), RB Keon Williams, (TN RB we have a good shot at if we want) WR Matt Milton, (Kiffin's type of receiver) JC QB Cameron Newton (rumored to be on the coaches "want" list but they want to see him in action this fall) DT Kelcy Quarles, (dad played for South Carolina, but he loves the Vols) DT Shariff Floyd, (could be the next and last tackle we take. Said to like the Vols) CB Terrence Mitchell, (Loves Monte. From Tampa) K/P Michael Palardy, (unofficialed here already. Has a scholly offer) and DT Richard Ash (probably the Pahokee prospect we have the best shot at.)

3. Who made the list that likely shouldn't have? Why?
I'll leave that for someone else.

4. Who are the best (i.e. 4-5 star) and biggest "reaches" who we're after right now, but we have a small chance of actually landing them?
James Hurst, Seantrel Henderson are the biggest reaches IMO. We have a better shot at Henderson but he is from Minnesota and likely to stay up North. You can throw in any of the top running backs, but I would say Michael Dyer is the one we are most likely to land. I think he's going to stay home and play for the Razorbacks.

5. Who is most likely to be the biggest pleasant surprise come NSD?
IMO DE Ego Ferguson.

6. Who is most likely to be the biggest dissappointment come NSD?
I would go with James Stone just because it would hurt to lose him to a team like Bama.

7. Which players are most likely to commit first, or who are suspected of already given a silent commit, if any?
Scroggins and Dion Bailey for the first part and ATH (listed as a S) Dietrich Riley for the last.

8. Who's most likely just stringing us along, but probably won't give us serious consideration in their final decision?
This could apply to about 50 prospects really. I don't know that anyone is necessarily "stringing us along," but there are many prospects that list us in their top 5 that will end up signing elsewhere. That's a hard one to answer really. If I had to pick a name, I'd go with Fre'Shad Hunter. I think he's NCSt-bound.

9. Who are the 3-5 "must-have" players who will set the tone (and likely, most of the ranking / success ) for the 2010 class?
For us it's Jesse Scroggins and James Stone. Those two's decisions will ultimately decide the direction of this class. We can afford to miss Stone, but we really cannot afford to miss Scroggins in relation to your question.

10. Who are the 3-5 players who could have the most immediate and greatest impact on the class (i.e. we would jump or fall several ranks with their signing with us or elsewhere)
I can only think of one really and that's Scroggins.
11. Who are the players we're essentially settling for because we couldn't get the one we wanted, or who might not be the perfect "fit" but are the best available this season?
I don't think you can answer that with anybody at this point. It's far too early and too many names are left on the board.
Again, I am keenly aware of the many resources available to those such as myself - and I have and will continue to use, enjoy and appreciate them all - but garnering this additional information from those kind souls who may be kind enough to take the time to provide it would also be most appreciated by myself, and likely others.

Thanks in advance, and again, great job on the list, Sab!

Thanks.:hi:
 
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#63
#63
Chances we land in parenthesis.

QB Jesse Scroggins (75%)
QB Chase Rettig (90% if we offer)

RB Orleans Opoku-Darwka (35%)

FB Channing Fugate (99%)

WR Markeith Ambles (35%)
WR Kyle Prater (40%)

TE Dakota Mosley (60%)
TE Tyler Robinson (65% if we offer)

OT James Stone (35%)
OT Zach Fulton (85%)
OT Cameron Clemmons (75% if we offer)

OG Jose Jose (99%)
OG Zach Tait (75% if we want him)

DE Jacques Smith (99.9%)
DE J.C. Copeland (99%)
DE J.R. Ferguson (15%)
DE T.J. Stripling (20%)


DT Patrick Harris (99%)
DT Risean Broussard (75%)
DT Evan Hailes (50%)
DT John Brown (99%)

LB Bruce Irvin (90%)
LB Ralph Williams (99%)

CB LaMarcus Joyner (15%)
CB Tyler Stephenson (25%)
CB Kacy Rodgers (45%)

S Dion Bailey (65%)
S Dietrich Riley (50%)

K Corey Acosta (walk-on) (65% if we offer him a scholarship. Unknown if we don't)
 
#64
#64
Acosta hasn't been offered by anybody. I don't know how much attention he is getting outside of us. We know about him because he's a Memphis kid and we need a kicker. He could get a ride here or somewhere else. I'm just going by what I see now.

Meline wants to play safety and is all but already a Bulldog anyway.

Mitchell...who knows what he is going to do; he could go anywhere. He is a Tampa boy and he likes Monte so that's a pretty good guess.

I think Josh Shirley is going to UCLA.

That could be a top 3 class, but Florida, USC, LSU, and Bama are putting together potential top 5 classes as well.

Not being argumentative, just continuing the discussion.

It's all good dude...thanks for the info..

I didn't know that about Meline...the last I heard he was really excited about how much attention we were giving him...but that was a long time ago...

My logic on Acosta was that he's a kicker and I've actually heard of him so that must mean he's getting some attention (I know that's kind of flawed logic)

Obviously we'd be very fortunate to get either Joyner or Mitchell (another shut down corner to go with Jackson) but I get the feeling Monte made a real impression on Mitchell and it might be too hard to pull Joyner from FSU

I do think we'd be better to suited to take 3 LB's instead of 3 CB's...it'd be nice if we could get someone of Shirley's ability if we go with 3 LB's

My top 3 class prediction is based on past classes...I looked at previous classes from Rivals and the top classes usually had 2-4 5 stars and 10+ 4 stars...

It'd be crazy if we ended up with 3+ five stars, 10+ four stars and still landed outside the top 5...especially if we were passed by 2-3 teams in our own conference in the process
 
#65
#65
Chances we land in parenthesis.

QB Jesse Scroggins (75%)
QB Chase Rettig (90% if we offer)

RB Orleans Opoku-Darwka (35%)

FB Channing Fugate (99%)

WR Markeith Ambles (35%)
WR Kyle Prater (40%)

TE Dakota Mosley (60%)
TE Tyler Robinson (65% if we offer)

OT James Stone (35%)
OT Zach Fulton (85%)
OT Cameron Clemmons (75% if we offer)

OG Jose Jose (99%)
OG Zach Tait (75% if we want him)

DE Jacques Smith (99.9%)
DE J.C. Copeland (99%)
DE J.R. Ferguson (15%)
DE T.J. Stripling (20%)


DT Patrick Harris (99%)
DT Risean Broussard (75%)
DT Evan Hailes (50%)
DT John Brown (99%)

LB Bruce Irvin (90%)
LB Ralph Williams (99%)

CB LaMarcus Joyner (15%)
CB Tyler Stephenson (25%)
CB Kacy Rodgers (45%)

S Dion Bailey (65%)
S Dietrich Riley (50%)

K Corey Acosta (walk-on) (65% if we offer him a scholarship. Unknown if we don't)

I thought it was funny you didn't put 100% for anyone. I agree, nothing is 100% until the name is on the dotted line! :)
 
#66
#66
Chances we land in parenthesis.

QB Jesse Scroggins (75%)
QB Chase Rettig (90% if we offer)

RB Orleans Opoku-Darwka (35%)

FB Channing Fugate (99%)

WR Markeith Ambles (35%)
WR Kyle Prater (40%)

TE Dakota Mosley (60%)
TE Tyler Robinson (65% if we offer)

OT James Stone (35%)
OT Zach Fulton (85%)
OT Cameron Clemmons (75% if we offer)

OG Jose Jose (99%)
OG Zach Tait (75% if we want him)

DE Jacques Smith (99.9%)
DE J.C. Copeland (99%)
DE J.R. Ferguson (15%)
DE T.J. Stripling (20%)


DT Patrick Harris (99%)
DT Risean Broussard (75%)
DT Evan Hailes (50%)
DT John Brown (99%)

LB Bruce Irvin (90%)
LB Ralph Williams (99%)

CB LaMarcus Joyner (15%)
CB Tyler Stephenson (25%)
CB Kacy Rodgers (45%)

S Dion Bailey (65%)
S Dietrich Riley (50%)

K Corey Acosta (walk-on) (65% if we offer him a scholarship. Unknown if we don't)

Sab - that's almost exactly the sort of thing I was looking for -but didn't want to ask, considering the time-intensive work you'd already done on the list.

Coupled with your earlier answers, and those from others, it really, really helps me (and those like me) to see the whole recruiting landscape, so to speak.

I really appreciate you and all of the others like you who take the time and exert the effort to provide everyone with such detailed - and wholly credible - information, analysis and opinions. I know that its just so much speculation right now, and that there is a lot of time between now and NSD, but it helps us to know who best to be on the lookout for, as we come to that point in the cycle.

Thanks a ton, certainly to Sabo, and to all other recruiting gurus, too.
 
#67
#67
Sab - that's almost exactly the sort of thing I was looking for -but didn't want to ask, considering the time-intensive work you'd already done on the list.

Coupled with your earlier answers, and those from others, it really, really helps me (and those like me) to see the whole recruiting landscape, so to speak.

I really appreciate you and all of the others like you who take the time and exert the effort to provide everyone with such detailed - and wholly credible - information, analysis and opinions. I know that its just so much speculation right now, and that there is a lot of time between now and NSD, but it helps us to know who best to be on the lookout for, as we come to that point in the cycle.

Thanks a ton, certainly to Sabo, and to all other recruiting gurus, too.

Dang Sab. First you were given the title of QB recruiting expert and now recruiting guru. You are the man! :)
 

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