Recruiting Football Talk VII

[volsagain]

Tennessee D out preforms Texas Max Johnson

 

[Vols4us]

Joe's their guy. Coaches made the decision a while back.

Interesting approach. Hope it pays off and the team is rewarded. To be fair that approach has not worked well in our most recent coaching past. However, those coaches did not achieve what this staff has already done thanks to a lot of players, but especially Hendon Hooker in the previous two seasons. The fall off at the most critical position on the field is glaring. The rest of the team has stepped up in a major way. The coaching staff has been outstanding at development overall.

Yesterday's game told us what we have. Our guys can beat anybody in the SEC with adequate QB and receiver play.

Hope it works out. Pulling for Joe to get it together and Heup to design around his strengths and away from his weaknesses. Any QB from high school on should be able to hit open receivers on slants. Look off the primary, anticipate the window and spot, throw. If he cannot do that they need to give him a bunch of stop pattern throws in open zones. YAC will suffer, but at least it will open the D up.

 

[Devo182]

Can’t wait to see USC lose the next 4 out of 5 games. Strongly dislike Riley and Williams

Don't care either way about either. But I do like when USC is good. It kills the jackass Sankeyization narrative that college football only deserves to be east of the Rockies.

They're also a true blueblood and good for the game.


Then again Riley is sorta a jackass...

 

[drvenner]

UT fakes more injuries than the opponents now

We all have our roles. I'm just glad Lampley understands his, lol.

 

[GVol1966]

This is spot on. Joe played bad enough to get benched yesterday, but for a number of reasons, it just isn’t the right time to make a change. For Joe’s and the team’s sake, I hope he gets it figured out

Yeah spot on .
But why do some of y’all keep adding that last sentence?
It ain’t gonna happen! We all said that before the season started.
He’s a 6th year guy and the season is half over.
If it ain’t happened by now by George, it ain’t gonna.
He is what we thought he was.

 

[butchna]

Has he been starting?

When healthy…so no.

 

[Christian Lowe]

 

[Jimmy Football]

Yeah spot on .
But why do some of y’all keep adding that last sentence?
It ain’t gonna happen! We all said that before the season started.
He’s a 6th year guy and the season is half over.
If it ain’t happened by now by George, it ain’t gonna.
He is what we thought he was.

Because if they’re gonna play him I hope he gets better. What else is there to do?

 

[drvenner]

i don’t feel like your assessment is accurate… Joe is the 12th rated qb in the SEC ahead of only Devin Leary…. He is also 12th in the SEC in passing yards which puts him behind every starting qb that hasn’t split time.He is 14th in PYA ahead of only Payton Thorne. He is tied for dead last with Will Rogers for TD passes for full time starters.

He has not been accurate… processes slow….. and really poor decision…. The only reason he is in there is bc the staff doesn’t feel that we have viable back up that’s not a true freshman. I have a feeling that is Joe’s ineptness ends up costing us some of these next few road games. We may end up seeing Nico starting before the end of the year.

We may see him but we have no idea what Nico will give us. Heupel does. And, he starts Joe. As
I mentioned, Heupel is not immune to making mistakes. I will still ride with Joe as long as he does.

 

[Devo182]

I could only watch Q1 from a bar and a play or two here and there the rest of the way.

How did we look? All I've gathered so far is our defense is as good as 2015 if not better and we're 5-1 despite our passing game being our weakness...when that was supposed to be the only thing Heupel could do...

 

[GVol1966]

He played a whole quarter and ran the normal offense. What more do you want? That was the only quarter of garbage time we had all year.

He threw 3 passes in that “whole “ Quarter.
That’s not the “normal “ offense “.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I could only watch Q1 from a bar and a play or two here and there the rest of the way.

How did we look? All I've gathered so far is our defense is as good as 2015 if not better and we're 5-1 despite our passing game being our weakness...when that was supposed to be the only thing Heupel could do...

Best defense since Fulmer. Periodt.

 

[drvenner]

I’ll take that bet. Nico is special.

Coaches are rewarding Joe for staying the course and being a good teammate. We have a players coach and he wants Milton to succeed. But Nico is still the better QB.

Offense will be elite next year.

Anyone who thinks Joe played well yesterday needs to have their head examined. Defense and special teams won that game. Our QB had two weeks to get better and prepare and threw for 100 yards.

I wish Milton was better and became a top pick. But he is who he is and he isn’t changing.

Coaches are playing Joe because they believe he gives us the best chance to win. I never said Joe played well yesterday though he made some nice plays with his legs. They're not playing him because they feel loyalty to him. They are paid to win football games. I am excited to see what Nico can do. I'll wait to see it until CJH thinks he gives us that best chance to win.

 

[Vols4us]

i don’t feel like your assessment is accurate… Joe is the 12th rated qb in the SEC ahead of only Devin Leary…. He is also 12th in the SEC in passing yards which puts him behind every starting qb that hasn’t split time.He is 14th in PYA ahead of only Payton Thorne. He is tied for dead last with Will Rogers for TD passes for full time starters.

He has not been accurate… processes slow….. and really poor decision…. The only reason he is in there is bc the staff doesn’t feel that we have viable back up that’s not a true freshman. I have a feeling that is Joe’s ineptness ends up costing us some of these next few road games. We may end up seeing Nico starting before the end of the year.

^^^ Reality. It is OK to say and accept it. We want better for Joe and the team. It is on the staff and Joe to deliver it or make the change. Will cheer for the team to do well no matter how it works out.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Let's talk about how someone got in Milton's ear about running. After his dainty run on 4th down, he put his shoulder down and got extra yards every run afterwards

We need him to keep running like that, and we really need him to start keeping the ball on the read some

 

[drvenner]

Yep. Bench Milton and Nico gets hurt, you are screwed. Milton checks out and your left with Moore.

It’s like they are praying that something finally clicks in his head and his practices turn into games. But it’s not happening.

Yeah exactly because Joe checked out after he lost the job to Hendon.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Heisman frontrunner

Have to think that title belongs to Penix now

 

[jave36]

He threw 3 passes in that “whole “ Quarter.
That’s not the “normal “ offense “.

There were two drives in the 4th quarter with 10 plays. One of them was a touchdown drive by Nico that started at the UVA 40.

The other was a 3 and out that involved Nico throwing a pass on 3rd down short of the 1st down marker.

What would you have done differently? He ran the normal offense. Maybe if he were a better qb he wouldn't have gone 3 and out, so he'd have gotten more plays in?

 

[GVol1966]

We may see him but we have no idea what Nico will give us. Heupel does. And, he starts Joe. As
I mentioned, Heupel is not immune to making mistakes. I will still ride with Joe as long as he does.

I don’t think he knows. He didn’t know what Hendon would give us or Joe would of never started over Hendon.
Not a knock on Huepel At all.


I think it’s a matter of what he thinks is better for the team right now.
The vast majority of players in that locker room are 100% behind Joe I presume and even if Nico is ready or better it probably wouldn’t be a good move.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

How’s walker Merril doing at wake forest and I wonder if he realizes how much PT he’d be getting right now had he been patient and stuck around.

 

[Jimmy Football]

We need him to keep running like that, and we really need him to start keeping the ball on the read some

Joe needs to lean into that. I honestly think it would help him get more into the rhythm of the game. And he could be effective at it.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Same could be said for Josephs.

Not a lot of sacks but he’s in the back field just as much as Pearce.

Pearce gets sacks though lol

As for Baron, Pearce only has one more sack than Baron does. Baron gets sacks too.

 

[drvenner]

Titans need to stick it in here. In before @Glitch

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

How’s walker Merril doing at wake forest and I wonder if he realizes how much PT he’d be getting right now had he been patient and stuck around.

Jimmy Holiday and Callaway too. Portal kills depth.

But can Dont'e really not play outside and do anything? I mean why not throw him out there? Maybe he will mess around and run 24 MPH past someone.

Seriously why not? Will he actually be worse than Keyton, Nimrod or Webb? At least we'd have talent out there.

 

[Adam Sandler]

What the hell, did I just watch.

The 12th man, The absence of female cheerleaders, synchronized swimming on land, a bunch of losers: all acceptable answers.