Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Orange_Crush]

It is irrelevant. Exactly right.

Even if you don’t believe there’s any direct corruption involved, that it’s just extreme incompetence, that doesn’t suddenly make it excusable. And honestly, if the conference is happy to continue to employ incompetent crews and make no investment or effort to improve such a crucial aspect of the competitive integrity of the sport, well that’s just a different form of corruption.

The crews are deployed; not employed.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Good. Let’s get that game over with. Empty thr depth chart. Start focusing on Mizzou and UGA who play each other at 330.

Let the UConn be a mini bye for us.

Well I wanna go to that game and enjoy the vol club tailgate...but thats hard to do coming from Hendersonville

I'd have to leave at like 7am ugh.

 

[screenthis]

I agree, but who would report on it? The big media companies are not going to cut their feet out from under them. It would cause us to have to unpack every single league across the board.

The officiating is there to call a COMPETITIVE game, not a FAIR game.

It is obvious that the crew is instructed the week of, or possibly day of, to call a game a certain way. This is based on team/coaching tendencies and what will give one of the teams more of an advantage.

There is more revenue on the line for the conference now than ever before. It has to be entertaining, it has to produce storylines.

There is more data available for the conference than ever before. There is data available for what outcomes will produce the highest % chance for 1-2 league teams to make the playoffs (increase payouts), there is more data available for what matchups/results will produce the highest ratings, which will influence current/future media deals (increase payouts).

The league needs more teams on bigger stages to increase payouts.

The league needs more eyes on the big games to gain leverage in TV contract negotiations.

They would have enough of both of those if they left everything alone, but they can maximize revenue if they meddle, and they can't help themselves.

This is not exclusive to the SEC, or to college football. There is a pro wrestling aspect to most of the major sports now.

They also choose to retain/maintain highly subjective rules and penalties, even though they have the technology to make officiating sharper, because subjectivity/grey area allows for influence.

They don't make the refs accountable for anything either, for several reasons. But one of the indirect benefits to the powers that be is that the refs will never have to explain why one team got all the calls, why one player was allowed to play outside of the rules, or why they did/didn't make a pivotal game-changing call. If they had to account for these things, they may slip up and say that the league was keen to call more/less of something for a certain team(s), which I think we all know is happening.

Your last paragraph is what is so frustrating. There doesn't appear to be accountability. What's the point of sending challenges or issues with officiating if they don't really respond or improve? Doesn't the NFL grade their officials? And then us the fans have no clue what's going on so many will naturally develop all kinds of conspriacies.

 

[Smokey123]

Most their penalties were pre-snap. If you want to play devils advocate, at least put all context out there

6 were pre snap

 

[mrMet]

Stoops is stoopid.

Do you remember the video clip (tik tok or twitter) where the Lube U faithful showed dude throwing a TD pass in practice against air and declaring something like "Tennessee is destroyed. Book it." ?

But I still maintain that he is better than Levis. Will not stop.

Oh yeah and the ball he threw looked like Peyton mannings passes his last szn in nfl. A big duck

 

[knoxvol52]

Your last paragraph is what is so frustrating. There doesn't appear to be accountability. What's the point of sending challenges or issues with officiating if they don't really respond or improve? Doesn't the NFL grade their officials? And then us the fans have no clue what's going on so many will naturally develop all kinds of conspriacies.

Grade NFL officials every week...that's how they decide who officiates in Playoff games and Super Bowls.....

 

[Orange.]

Your last paragraph is what is so frustrating. There doesn't appear to be accountability. What's the point of sending challenges or issues with officiating if they don't really respond or improve? Doesn't the NFL grade their officials? And then us the fans have no clue what's going on so many will naturally develop all kinds of conspriacies.

Well in defense of our fans, given that it is as bad as it is and has been for so very very long, and nothing has ever been done about, strongly suggests that Birmingham is and has been fine with the continually changed outcomes. And the fact that they fine coaches for speaking, and that they have all the videos submitted, but have never acted on them, except maybe Nick's in secret, and no action has ever been taken against an official no matter how bad and game changing the call, strongly suggests that they are and have been happy for things to continue as they have for so very long. At any rate, it is a form of complicity.

I would guess they basically laugh at the submitted videos.

They are responsible for the officiating product they provide, supervise, and supervise the supervisors of, and compel silence about.

 

[screenthis]

Well in defense of our fans, given that it is as bad as it is and has been for so very very long, and nothing has ever been done about, strongly suggests that Birmingham is and has been fine with the outcome or continually changed outcomes, rather. And the fact that they fine coaches for speaking, and that the have all the videos submitted but have never acted on them, except maybe Nick's , strongly suggests that they are and have been happy for things to continue as they have for so very long. At any rate, it is a form of complicity.

I would guess they basically laugh at the submitted videos.

Laugh at the videos? They immediately put those videos in the 'junk folder'. Why waste time?

 

[knoxvol52]

May see Arch Manning before long...Ewers hurt his throwing shoulder...Murphy is backup ...we all know how that goes if Murphy sucks 1st game then the fans Will scream we want Arch..

 

[Orange.]

Oh yeah and the ball he threw looked like Peyton mannings passes his last szn in nfl. A big duck

Yes, but let's leave our guy out of it!

 

[Orange.]

Laugh at the videos? They immediately put those videos in the 'junk folder'. Why waste time?

I thought maybe they watch some of them together over drinks on the clock and mock the submitters.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Well I wanna go to that game and enjoy the vol club tailgate...but thats hard to do coming from Hendersonville

I'd have to leave at like 7am ugh.

I can relate. I make a 4 hour drive to home games. Not gonna make the UConn game though.

 

[screenthis]

I can relate. I make a 4 hour drive to home games. Not gonna make the UConn game though.

About that long of a drive for me as well. Still need to attend my 1 game for the year.

 

[Orange.]

Thank you for delivering AP’s deep breathing to my ear canals

Not what she said, in a million years.

 

[Orange.]

Imagine making 10 million a year and throwing the kid under a bus like that.

Definitely the kind of low-life who would hang with Joel Osteen to fund recruits from collection plates and the lying scammer and crooked booster Leigh Ann "I Have Never Adopted Anyone in My Life But I Make Bank Tax-Free Telling The World How I Did" Tuohy. Peas. Pod.

 

[Orange.]

They read the signs strait from the sideline. Ouch

With the pre-game generated cheat code in hand. So Harbaugh.

 

[BigSteve09]

Of note:

2 Georgia
3 Alabama
16 Tennessee
17 Texas A&M
18 Missouri
25 Kentucky
30 Florida
51 South Carolina
73 UTSA
83 Virginia
94 Vanderbilt
116 Austin Peay
155 Connecticut

 

[Orange.]

Where's the motion version of this? If he's waving his hands then they can win on a technicality. No waving allowed by anyone on the return team. Granted until our game and Iowa no one has ever applied that technicality, but still.

I think this is easiest. *****Tennessee vs Alabama full game video

I rewatched on Youtube but you have to deal with commercials and can't reference a time stamp as universally.

 

[knoxvol52]

Nice Sun Belt game tonight Liberty vs Western Kentucky at 7:30 p.m.on ESPNU...

 

[Orange.]

Of note:

2 Georgia
3 Alabama
16 Tennessee
17 Texas A&M
18 Missouri
25 Kentucky
30 Florida
51 South Carolina
73 UTSA
83 Virginia
94 Vanderbilt
116 Austin Peay
155 Connecticut

Sewanee 673. And Tulane actually at 43. Represent!

 

[Orange.]

@Jack Burton Did you catch the classic uncalled personal foul last year when To'o To'o was caught on camera kneeing Hooker in the head when he was trapped under a pile? There's a video somewhere out here that it to be worse than my screen grab depict it. Classic Bama.

This was before Toot ended up at the player gate literally crying to his mamma.

 

[Orange.]

But they’re 7-1. And that’s all that matters.

Let's say crooked officiated has rendered them 7-1. Sticks closer to the facts.

 

[Adam2014]

 

[franklinpence]

I know it’s part of Tennessee, and I shouldn’t feel this way, but I hate Chattanooga. Traffic on 24 is a nightmare. Haven’t moved in 45 minutes and no exit near by to get moving.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

I know it’s part of Tennessee, and I shouldn’t feel this way, but I hate Chattanooga. Traffic on 24 is a nightmare. Haven’t moved in 45 minutes and no exit near by to get moving.

I know! This gets me every damn time I try to come home to E TN, from LA. There is not hardly any other way around it, though I have tried to veer west via Jasper and Whitwell.