Recruiting Football Talk VII

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utkevdawg1 said:
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Related, that is hands down the coolest ride I've ever been on. It is a legit experience. Fast passed it the first time and almost hopped right back in the 2-hour line to do it again.
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We were just there last week and out of all four parks, my family loved this ride the most. It was very cool!
 
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peaygolf said:
Agree on Defense.............but overall?
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Absolutely. Best defense ever + offense that was #2 in that same season. Name another team close to being that dominant on both sides of the ball in one season that won it all. Also led the league in special teams. What people forget is that the Bears should've went back-to-back. Charles Martin from GB did arguably the dirtiest hit in NFL history against Jim Mcmahon. McMahon was lost for the playoffs and the Bears (14-2) and best team in the NFL lost in the divisional playoff. Even worse is that Mcmahon nerve recovered and became addicted to pain killers. The Bears had a team that could've been a dynasty. Instead, many unfairly view them as a one hit wonder. My hatred for GB was cemented and ironically, they have had tremendous success from that game. It was later determined that Martin had his game towel with numbers of 5 Bears players on it. It was a hitlist to take out McMahon, Payton, Gault, Gentry and Jay Hilgenberg.
 
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If Nico has a great Bowl Game, plus a great start to next season recruiting should be off the charts...

High school players should say , "I want to play with that dude" ....

Also I said "If" because I have to see results versus QUALITY competition,not just a mop up role vs Vanderbilt and UCONN...

His greatness still TBD...
 
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The Dog said:
I was getting scared. I think Luka, Booker and KD get over 25, tonight. Stars love to showout on Christmas in the NBA. Hasn't happened, yet, happens in the late game, imo
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Never in a million years would I have said Grayson Allen would lead them in scoring on a Christmas Day game smhhhh
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:


Absolutely. Best defense ever + offense that was #2 in that same season. Name another team close to being that dominant on both sides of the ball in one season that won it all. Also led the league in special teams. What people forget is that the Bears should've went back-to-back. Charles Martin from GB did arguably the dirtiest hit in NFL history against Jim Mcmahon. McMahon was lost for the playoffs and the Bears (14-2) and best team in the NFL lost in the divisional playoff. Even worse is that Mcmahon nerve recovered and became addicted to pain killers. The Bears had a team that could've been a dynasty. Instead, many unfairly view them as a one hit wonder. My hatred for GB was cemented and ironically, they have had tremendous success from that game. It was later determined that Martin had his game towel with numbers of 5 Bears players on it. It was a hitlist to take out McMahon, Payton, Gault, Gentry and Jay Hilgenberg.
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I'll be honest.......I had forgotten how good they were on offense in '85
I was gonna say '78 Steelers, but you might have me...............
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
They did it for longer, but the Bears defense was 3rd in 84, 1st in 85, 1st in 86, and 4th in 87. Still, I would put 85 against anyone for one season.
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The Ravens team that defeated the Giants and the Buccaneers that defeated the Raiders were top notch in those Super Bowl years..

When Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer are Super Bowl winning Quarterbacks, it had to be defensive led victories..
 
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knoxvol52 said:
@butchna only 2 Heisman trophy winning Quarterbacks have ever won a Super Bowl..

Who are they and what team did they win Super Bowl with??

No googling!!!!
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I don’t do numbers of Super Bowls, but Jim Plunkett against the Eagles and Redskins was one. Then Roger Staubach against the Dolphins and Broncos. No googling…honest Haitian.


Oh, you asked for the teams with? Plunkett-Raiders and Staubach-Giants. 😉
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
Truth on the only post season game I watch, but Florida State players are jumping ship post season while they got disrespected in the playoffs selection just shows they are mercenaries, and I have no respect for a player that doesn’t stand up for their team and teammates. I know, samesee on posts basically. Before anyone of you posts something about their future, it starts with the school you sign with and have allegiance to or that’s what it use to be.
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I do understand what you are posting and to me it is a big concern with portal players. What I like about CJH is he seems to be looking for fit even in the portal and guys with multiple years. However, college football free agency is primed for action with the new ruling of unlimited transfers. It will kill the game for old guys like me that love the history of the game and all teams. I will watch it but I have started cutting back on my monetary investment in the game. If I am a FSU fan, I would be so disappointed in the response for playing in the Orange Bowl. Pandora's box is open and I am all for guys getting paid for name and likeness and what they do but I am more inclined to purchase something Nico eventually represents if he does great than a guy who would come in and only play one year before heading to the draft.
 
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JacketVol said:
I do understand what you are posting and to me it is a big concern with portal players. What I like about CJH is he seems to be looking for fit even in the portal and guys with multiple years. However, college football free agency is primed for action with the new ruling of unlimited transfers. It will kill the game for old guys like me that love the history of the game and all teams. I will watch it but I have started cutting back on my monetary investment in the game. If I am a FSU fan, I would be so disappointed in the response for playing in the Orange Bowl. Pandora's box is open and I am all for guys getting paid for name and likeness and what they do but I am more inclined to purchase something Nico eventually represents if he does great than a guy who would come in and only play one year before heading to the draft.
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Completely agree.

Although I don't believe we have seen the "final" result from all of this. It could change dramatically in many ways, including with a collective bargaining agreement. Eventually that may happen to bring more equity and parity to the situation. As it is though, I like Heup's approach better than going after the one and done mercenaries like in basketball.

The 12 team playoff will help with the opting out thing, especially if there is more money for the players. The NFL could help matters by getting the message across to the players somehow that they value seeing them play against quality competition.
 
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JacketVol said:
I do understand what you are posting and to me it is a big concern with portal players. What I like about CJH is he seems to be looking for fit even in the portal and guys with multiple years. However, college football free agency is primed for action with the new ruling of unlimited transfers. It will kill the game for old guys like me that love the history of the game and all teams. I will watch it but I have started cutting back on my monetary investment in the game. If I am a FSU fan, I would be so disappointed in the response for playing in the Orange Bowl. Pandora's box is open and I am all for guys getting paid for name and likeness and what they do but I am more inclined to purchase something Nico eventually represents if he does great than a guy who would come in and only play one year before heading to the draft.
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young college guys that feel like they were done wrong and had something that they worked so hard stolen from them…. it is hard to get up for a lesser game.
 
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volbeast33 said:
young college guys that feel like they were done wrong and had something that they worked so hard stolen from them…. it is hard to get up for a lesser game.
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I would agree normally but it was a portal heavy team. I do not blame the QB going into the portal and not playing. They are openly recruiting to replace him and he needs to find a better situation quickly.
 
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Vols4us said:
Completely agree.

Although I don't believe we have seen the "final" result from all of this. It could change dramatically in many ways, including with a collective bargaining agreement. Eventually that may happen to bring more equity and parity to the situation. As it is though, I like Heup's approach better than going after the one and done mercenaries like in basketball.

The 12 team playoff will help with the opting out thing, especially if there is more money for the players. The NFL could help matters by getting the message across to the players somehow that they value seeing them play against quality competition.
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it would have to benefit the nfl…. playing in bowl games doesn’t benefit the nfl.
 
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JacketVol said:
I would agree normally but it was a portal heavy team. I do not blame the QB going into the portal and not playing. They are openly recruiting to replace him and he needs to find a better situation quickly.
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They are all defeated….. big difference going from playing for a NC that they felt like they earned….. to trying to get everyone on the same page to play for pride. Even the coaching staff isn’t treating it seriously…. If they were playing for a NC… i doubt they would actively pushing the qb out the door.
 
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