Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Weezer said:
No, because Heard entered during the Winter window, and he'll have a chance to win a starting job in Spring practice. Not to mention he was a true freshman.

Like I said before, we'll see when the Spring window comes.
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He didn’t think he was gonna win a starting spot at his old school so he transferred.

What’s the difference between him and some other young guy who enters in spring?
 
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JacketVol said:
Screw u all. Taking it out of context with how they were playing and lack of hustle at the time. Have at it. I’m joining @InVOLuntary
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Wasn't directed at you. I just remembered that quote, not who said it.

We all say negative dumb shiz sometimes. It's not personal. It's the RF...where it just means less.
 
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Orange. said:
Eh. You just bought into "the Saban is a model for managers in business" propaganda, and don't want to admit that he bought his first class at Bama in broad daylight and the NCAA deliberately turned a blind eye. "Julio Jones is going to have to take a pay cut to go to the NFL" was a national punchline. He kept buying classes with impunity and that remains forever the necessary precondition of everything he cheated his way to.

What Saban said about Jimbo was 100% projection and 100% true of Saban. TAMU let all of college football down by not responding publicly with a catalog of allegations concerning Saban's rule breaking, including paying players at Bama his entire tenure there and the rigged officiating. But TAMU backed down. Birmingham didn't cite Saban for his violation, either. They let it go, forcing TAMU to respond then "warned both teams."

And look at the obvious way we were targeted for crooked officiating from our second game on -- for the entire regular season. Can you even imagine how demoralizing that kind of corruption was for our players. They knew what was happening. Maybe it was "bad luck" or something they just had to "man up" and ignore for a little while, but it became so completely clear and obvious they couldn't not know what was being done to them.

Your alternating ideas that Saban was just "smart" (because he had boosters handle all the cheating) or "lucky" (that everyone cheated for him behind his back) is naive imo. NCAA rules state every such action by boosters is an infraction. Moreover one that is by rule charged to the university for enforcement purposes. Moreover, by rule, in the category of "lack of institutional control."

As far as Birmingham goes, it depends on what lurks behind the phrase "hitched their star to." It sounds like a polite way to say cheated and manipulated for.

As far as corruption in Alabama, the recent case where the popo and the DA literally acted as defense attorneys for the Bama basketball player who was a manifest accessory to murder was so extreme and obvious that I don't see how anyone could excuse it. People citing the popo statement that "they didn't have anyway to charge him" was American politics level heinous. They said he never touched the gun because he passed it in a hat.

Saban couldn't win in the NFL when other teams could also pay players and now he has run away when NIL has allowed his college rivals to join him in paying -- even though he still has the unearned and illicit advantage of having bought all the most NFL-likely players he paid at Bama, and using that as a recruiting advantage forever after. His new role at Bama will be to have bags thrown behind his back in Washington and elsewhere and to propagandize on TV to naive fans of other teams to support and applaud reinstituting Bama's cheating-with-impunity edge as best he can.

Would you be surprised if the UT coed was intimidated into silence when she was assaulted after the '22 game and that Saban made excuses for?

Above all, I don't see how you slough off the crooked officiating that affects us. That perplexes me. It was an organized hit. It cheated us, harmed our players and set our recruiting back. And it played a decisive role in Saban being corruptly advanced to the playoffs.

I'm just glad the other (lesser) cheater beat Saban. And like Saban, he is walking out as a hero and without consequences for himself. The '22 playoff was corrupted by Michigan too. That was and still remains the fact too big for the media to document, which would not be difficult to do.

I suspect you'll never stop defending Saban. But I'll never not object to Saban's stolen valor and fraud status.
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He's certainly no hero, but you've deified him to the point that you believe he supernaturally orchestrated the entire thing. He just took advantage of the system the SEC put in place for him.

And on the officiating, Saban has literally zero impact on that. Zero. You need a face for your anger so badly that you've fixated on Saban as this mastermind of villainy instead of placing the blame on the SEC office where it should be.

Sure, the person who goes along with cheating because the system enables him to do so is deserving of some scorn, but nowhere near as much as those running the system. Saban is the beneficiary, not the conductor.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
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VN sees an orange helmet....

I'M FREAKIN OUT MAN! freaking out hippie dude GIF | Mind blown, Giphy, Cool gifs
 
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jave36 said:
He's certainly no hero, but you've deified him to the point that you believe he supernaturally orchestrated the entire thing. He just took advantage of the system the SEC put in place for him.

And on the officiating, Saban has literally zero impact on that. Zero. You need a face for your anger so badly that you've fixated on Saban as this mastermind of villainy instead of placing the blame on the SEC office where it should be.

Sure, the person who goes along with cheating because the system enables him to do so is deserving of some scorn, but nowhere near as much as those running the system. Saban is the beneficiary, not the conductor.
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Lol...you must not have been paying attention.. @Orange. is even more venomous towards the crooked system...and he is right, Saban absolutely worked with it to keep everybody else down..he is just as guilty as they are....they are full partners in this massive fraud perpetrated against fans, players and coaches of other schools.
 
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Will the game tonite still be on ESPN?

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GAME 17 | TENNESSEE vs. FLORIDA - Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2024 | 5 p.m. ET | Knoxville, Tenn. | Food City Center (21,678)


Line: UT -9.5
O/U: 159.5

TV: ESPN2 / Watch
Radio: Vol Network / Listen / Live Stats
Satellite Radio: SiriusXM: 81
Online: WatchESPN.com
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
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The Saban worship is sickening...nobody sees him for what he really is, and what REALLY happenedsince he got there...hell, most of our fanbase eats this ludicrous 💩 up...they bow down and kiss his elf ass along with everybody else.

He is a really good, and very unnaturally (I will always give him this credit) driven coach, that was handed insane power to do whatever he wanted and needed with literally zero repercussions...he could do, and did, anything he wanted with zero fear of being caught or charged...because no one was going to watch, or allowed to watch.
 
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