Recruiting Football Talk VII

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12/4/23- 4Star QB Tyler Buchner enters portal
12/4/23- 4Star WR Thaiu Jones-Bell enters portal
12/7/23- 3Star DL Isaiah Hastings enters portal
12/7/23- 4Star WR Ja’Corey Brooks enters portal
12/11/23- 3Star DL Aquino Barnes enters portal
12/15/23- Ja’Corey Brooks commits to Louisville
12/17/23- Aquino Barnes commits to Colorado
12/20/23- Tyler Buchner commits to Notre Dame lacrosse
1/1/24- ALABAMA LOSES PLAYOFF GAME
1/1/24- 5Star Junior EDGE Dallas Turner declares early for the NFL Draft
1/3/24- 3Star QB Eli Holstein enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star DL Monkell Goodwine enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Malik Benson enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Seth McLaughlin enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Terrence Ferguson enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star S Kristian Story enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star CB Earl Little II enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Shazam Preston enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star TE Miles Kitselman enters portal
1/3/24- 5Star Junior OT JC Latham declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star LB Ian Jackson enters portal
1/4/24- TE Jax Porter enters portal
1/4/24- 5Star Junior CB Kool-Aid McKinstry declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior LB Chris Braswell declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior Justin Eboigbe declares early for NFL draft
1/5/24- WR Haydon Neighbors enters portal
1/5/24- 4Star RB Roydell Williams enters portal
1/6/24- Earl Little II commits to Florida State
1/6/24- Seth McLaughlin commits to Ohio State
1/6/24- 4Star Senior WR Jermaine Burton declares early for NFL draft
1/7/24- 3Star S Jake Pope enters portal
1/7/24- Eli Holstein commits to Pitt
1/7/24- Monkell Goodwine commits to S Carolina
1/8/24- 3Star LB Kendrick Blackshire enters portal
1/8/24- Malik’s Benson commits to Florida State
1/10/24- NICK SABAN RETIRES
1/8/24- 5Star Sophomore CB Terrion Arnold declares early for NFL draft
1/10/24- Kristian Story commits to Kentucky
1/10/24- 5Star 2024 WR Ryan Williams decommits
1/11/24- 4Star Senior RB Jase McClellan declares early for NFL draft
1/11/24- Terrence Ferguson commits to Florida State
1/12/24- 5Star WR Isaiah Bond enters portal
1/12/24- Jake Pope commits to Georgia
1/13/24- 4Star DB Dezz Ricks enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star CB Antonio Kite enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star LB Shawn Murphy enters portal
1/13/24- Miles Kitselman commits to Tennessee
1/13/24- Roydell Williams commits to Florida State
1/14/24- 4Star TE Amari Niblack enters portal
1/14/24- Isiah Bond commits to Texas
1/14/24- 5Star 2025 WR Jaime Ffrench decommits
1/15/24- Isaiah Hastings commits to Syracuse
1/15/24- Shazz Preston commits to Tulane
1/15/24- Shawn Murphy commits to Florida State
1/16/24- 3Star CB Trey Amos enters portal
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 OL Mason Short decommits
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Javion Hilson decommits; flips to Florida State
1/16/24- Dezz Ricks commits to Texas A&M
1/16/24- Kendrick Blackshire commits to Texas
1/17/24- 5Star S Caleb Downs enters portal
1/17/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Zion Grady decommits
1/17/24- 5Star OT Kadyn Proctor enters portal
1/17/24- Antonio Kite commits to Auburn
1/18/24- 4Star 2024 CB James Grimsley enters portal
1/18/24- Amari Niblack commits to Texas
1/18/24- Ian Jackson commits to UTSA
1/19/24- 5Star QB Julian Sayin enters portal

Totals:
30 players have entered portal (four 5Star, fifteen 4Star, eleven 3Star)

22 players have committed elsewhere (one 5Star, thirteen 4Star, eight 3Star)

8 players have declared early for the NFL draft (four 5Star and four 4Star)

1 player has decommitted from the 2024 class (5Star)

4 players have decommited from the 2025 class (one 5Star, three 4Stars)
Rookie stuff, how many did we lose each cycle we fahred a coach.
 
True. My main point is that I'd think at least JJJ at this point would be a 15 point a game scorer. I believe he is that talented. But, it just doesn't seem that it's in his nature in terms of aggression.
Don’t think he has the skillset for it. He’s not quick or smooth enough with the ball to regularly beat guys off the dribble and his jumper’s not consistent enough.
 
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JJJ isn’t a 3 ball shooter and won’t be expected to hit those shots if he makes it in the NBA.JJJ coming back to play was a draft favor by Barnes to get is percentages up because coming out of the draft tryouts last year they told him his shooting needed to improve to better his draft stock.Barnes needs to play him to his strengths instead of trying to fix what he will never be.

JJJ would flourish in a Admiral Schofield role.he rebounds well for his size and his midrange is automatic..him being out on the wing is strictly for draft tape and it hurts us in the long run down the stretch.

Admiral hit 39.5% from deep his Junior year then 41.8% his Senior year, shooting over 165 attempts in both. Admiral was a 3 ball shooter though and basically a 3 (wing)...so that's a bad comparison if you're saying JJJ shouldn't be a wing player.

JJJ this year is playing the 4 basically, so if you're saying he's now in the right spot to play to his strengths then I'd agree. He just wasn't able to come in and play that role from the beginning with Turner going down it shifted where we needed JJJ to play because neither Santi or Bowden were very good options at the point. Pons at the 4 spot the first 2 seasons also forced JJJ to play a 3 spot and be more of a wing guy.

I do think he's a better Draymond type player than a spot up 3 ball guy.
 
Thought he turned them down already.
Don't remember. I just remember Lanning tweeting out he was staying. Then I saw a list of Deboer, Rees, and Norvell, then KD was bagged.

I believe a Sark tweet was intertwined in there too, whether or not he was just ensuring the fanbase or was offered idk.
 
I rather see Josiah have 8/7/5 and 3 steals than 15 points and 4 rebounds..

Josiah is a stat sheet stuff and a very good defender..

Vescovi just wants to win, whether he sores 30 points or 3 it really doesn't matter to him as long as Tennessee wins..
He is a guy that can guard 1-4 really well and at the 5 if you need emergency minutes because of foul trouble. He is a high level passer and defender. All elite teams have one of these guys.
 
You know what really grinds my gears?

HOF Voters acting all pious and principled.

While they let in a filthy, dirty $3 scum-bucket whore like David Ortiz (who wasn’t great, even while cheating).

And turn around and exclude the likes of Clemens, Bonds, & Rodriguez for doing the same damn thing.

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What's the story on Ortiz?
 
12/4/23- 4Star QB Tyler Buchner enters portal
12/4/23- 4Star WR Thaiu Jones-Bell enters portal
12/7/23- 3Star DL Isaiah Hastings enters portal
12/7/23- 4Star WR Ja’Corey Brooks enters portal
12/11/23- 3Star DL Aquino Barnes enters portal
12/15/23- Ja’Corey Brooks commits to Louisville
12/17/23- Aquino Barnes commits to Colorado
12/20/23- Tyler Buchner commits to Notre Dame lacrosse
1/1/24- ALABAMA LOSES PLAYOFF GAME
1/1/24- 5Star Junior EDGE Dallas Turner declares early for the NFL Draft
1/3/24- 3Star QB Eli Holstein enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star DL Monkell Goodwine enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Malik Benson enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Seth McLaughlin enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Terrence Ferguson enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star S Kristian Story enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star CB Earl Little II enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Shazam Preston enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star TE Miles Kitselman enters portal
1/3/24- 5Star Junior OT JC Latham declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star LB Ian Jackson enters portal
1/4/24- TE Jax Porter enters portal
1/4/24- 5Star Junior CB Kool-Aid McKinstry declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior LB Chris Braswell declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior Justin Eboigbe declares early for NFL draft
1/5/24- WR Haydon Neighbors enters portal
1/5/24- 4Star RB Roydell Williams enters portal
1/6/24- Earl Little II commits to Florida State
1/6/24- Seth McLaughlin commits to Ohio State
1/6/24- 4Star Senior WR Jermaine Burton declares early for NFL draft
1/7/24- 3Star S Jake Pope enters portal
1/7/24- Eli Holstein commits to Pitt
1/7/24- Monkell Goodwine commits to S Carolina
1/8/24- 3Star LB Kendrick Blackshire enters portal
1/8/24- Malik’s Benson commits to Florida State
1/10/24- NICK SABAN RETIRES
1/8/24- 5Star Sophomore CB Terrion Arnold declares early for NFL draft
1/10/24- Kristian Story commits to Kentucky
1/10/24- 5Star 2024 WR Ryan Williams decommits
1/11/24- 4Star Senior RB Jase McClellan declares early for NFL draft
1/11/24- Terrence Ferguson commits to Florida State
1/12/24- 5Star WR Isaiah Bond enters portal
1/12/24- Jake Pope commits to Georgia
1/13/24- 4Star DB Dezz Ricks enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star CB Antonio Kite enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star LB Shawn Murphy enters portal
1/13/24- Miles Kitselman commits to Tennessee
1/13/24- Roydell Williams commits to Florida State
1/14/24- 4Star TE Amari Niblack enters portal
1/14/24- Isiah Bond commits to Texas
1/14/24- 5Star 2025 WR Jaime Ffrench decommits
1/15/24- Isaiah Hastings commits to Syracuse
1/15/24- Shazz Preston commits to Tulane
1/15/24- Shawn Murphy commits to Florida State
1/16/24- 3Star CB Trey Amos enters portal
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 OL Mason Short decommits
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Javion Hilson decommits; flips to Florida State
1/16/24- Dezz Ricks commits to Texas A&M
1/16/24- Kendrick Blackshire commits to Texas
1/17/24- 5Star S Caleb Downs enters portal
1/17/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Zion Grady decommits
1/17/24- 5Star OT Kadyn Proctor enters portal
1/17/24- Antonio Kite commits to Auburn
1/18/24- 4Star 2024 CB James Grimsley enters portal
1/18/24- Amari Niblack commits to Texas
1/18/24- Ian Jackson commits to UTSA
1/19/24- 5Star QB Julian Sayin enters portal

Totals:
30 players have entered portal (four 5Star, fifteen 4Star, eleven 3Star)

22 players have committed elsewhere (one 5Star, thirteen 4Star, eight 3Star)

8 players have declared early for the NFL draft (four 5Star and four 4Star)

1 player has decommitted from the 2024 class (5Star)

4 players have decommited from the 2025 class (one 5Star, three 4Stars)
There aren't enough 4-5 star transfers listed yet. GIVE ME MOAR!!!
 
Tough discussion honestly..hypocritical anyway you go but I’ll always stand my ground and say my peace for Pete rose being in the HOF…it was non baseball (performance) related and he never bet on his team or against them.
That we know of. He did bet on his own team. That means he pulls out all the stops to win that game and maybe compromises the remaining games in that series. Absolutely no way he should be there. I personally think Shoeless Joe is one of the top 3 hitters of all time and one of my favorite players. He should not be in the HOF either.
 
Honestly DK has filled the Admiral role...those two are better comparisons. DK just didn't get 3+ years of SEC S&C to get to 240lbs of muscle (and honestly I don't think DK would ever carry that much weight anyway).

JJJ was a combo guard coming outta HS, but he's the best example of "best player on team gets the ball in hands" in hindsight it's easy to say he should have been coming in to try and fill/play the Grant role. That first season we were heavy in Forwards on the roster though and there simply weren't any minutes to play him and you don't want to keep a 5 star swiss arm knife with his size and talent on the bench. So he was playing a lot of point and a lot of the 3...
 
Nah, he's just one of the frogs that jumped out after feeling the water heating up in the pot, instead of hanging around and boiling alive.
All them frogs overeating more than a bunch of vol fans when we hired Heupel.

New coach just took his team to the Natty game and everyone is acting like they hired Butch Jones!!!

I’m loving every minute of it thought!!!
 
Think Chinese fire drill 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
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Also I'll say this is the first season where Barnes has really embraced the roster dictating his lineup and not forcing certain players to play out of position. So kudos to that change.
 
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