Recruiting Football Talk VII

[UTSuave’]

Apparently Saban was not involved in talking players into staying.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don’t get the love affair with Lanning.

It’s like y’all appreciate a recruiter more than a winner. Lanning couldn’t beat DeBoer…

They do...that is their measure of a great coach...and I don't get it either.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I had a bad nightmare last night. I dreamed I was at a bird sanctuary and all the birds there were zombies. It was a sparrowing experience.

 

[knoxvol52]

Butchna makes a fair point. Is Sayin being pushed out to make Bama more attractive to GMac?

Maybe just maybe he is planning on starting the 4* that followed him from Washington..

 

[MoCo_Vol]

That stat honestly blows my mind because the offense was ran through grant.admiral I felt like was more on the rebound and clean up guy but could hit shots when he was called on..JJJ isn’t that guy and I feel like he has too much of a green light and gets carried away…

Yeah, statistically speaking that's not true at all. But I will say Barnes has always told his guys, "take the shot."

He's more likely to sit someone for a dumb turnover or not defending than he is missing a wide open 3.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The OP was alluding to the fans have to foot the bill, when the unis have more than enough to do so, but choose not to.

You do realize that that money is used to subsidize every other sport except CBB? It's not like some billionaire NFL owners just feathering their nest getting the money.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

No just surprising just taken back a little when seeing it all, the talent they have. Like why would 5 stars want to go sit on the bench a couple years?? I’ll never understand..

How in the hell did you not know this...we literally say all the time that Alabama has elite 4* and 5*s stacked up like cordwood, did you think we were kidding...did you never pay attention to recruiting classes?

Even after all this...they will still have a ton of talent.

It should help you understand the massive hill we have to climb to beat UGA..they are freaking loaded just like Bama has been.

 

[drvenner]

Here here!

AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING

AND

f*** BAMA

I want to take a few minutes here to say how much I appreciate Josh Heupel and Danny White...I was just thinking of Crappabamas putrid fanbase carrying on about all the players portaling...and it made me remember exactly how I felt when the Pruitt fiasco happened...

I was completely done as a fan...I would always love the Vols, but I was finally convinced the LWS was right..I had argued with him zealously for years throughout the 2010s that we were STILL a great program, that all we needed was the right school leadership and the right Head Coach, and he always said we were done as a great program...relegated to mediocrity forever.

I thought that Dooley could at least stabilize it after Kiffin nuked us, but he just drove it deeper into the abyss...

I thought Butch had IT...I got excited thinking THIS is the ONE..he brought so much talent onto the field, and you could alllmmmooossst feel us turning it around...only to see the bright promise of 2016 turn into a nightmare ending with that horrifying loss to Vanderbilt..FREAKING Vanderbilt!..and so we had to watch him drive us even DEEPER in the abyss...the first 8 loss team in Tennessee history..

And then the totally horrifying and embarrassing clown show of a coaching search...the SchiaNO uprising..Fulmer coming in at the last minute to try and save the ship, and making what looked like a promising hire..only to finally reach the bottom of the abyss...the absolute bottom, a place where light can never reach with the weight of the world holding us down forever..after Pruitt's stupid moron ass absolutely destroyed what was left of my hope...I was finally convinced...LWS was right, we were done...

I heard something a guy wrote describing the California town out in the middle of the mojave desert named Siberia that perfectly described how I felt at that point, it goes like this...

"The land where the gaunt vulture of despair flaps his huge wings, and hope sinks into oblivion. Where once vivid memories seem vague..and daydreams die"

But then something unbelievable and awesome happened..it seems miraculous to me that it was even possible at that point...we got finally had some real good leadership in the administration, though few of us knew it at the time, and that leadership made a fantastic hire of an AD, though few of us knew HOW good...and he hired a coach he believed in...a guy none of us really wanted...and THAT guy took a battered skeleton crew of a roster and made some promising progress his first season, and I thought.."hey maybe this guy can at least make us a little respectable again in a few years if we just give him some time"...BUT...then the unthinkable happened...he took a team of portal rejects, nobodies and guys that had never lived up to their promise..and made them a freaking National Championship contender in his 2nd year..

I will never understand you toxic SOBs that bitch, piss and moan over every little thing..criticize criticize criticize criticize...it is sickening and infuriating after what we have been through. How in the hell can you not see how GREAT this is?

I have hope now...I know we have the chance to be a top program again, not just for a year, but year after year after year after year..IF..we will just have patience.


I never post long winded crap like this, and I know people thing I am "negative" because I try to rein in over the top expectations that lead to toxic frustration which is corrosive as acid to a program, but I am positive that we WILL get there if everybody would just have some freaking patience for once in our freaking lives....

Josh Heupel has ALREADY shown us what he can do...he doesn't have to prove anything to me...I believe we will be a winner as long as he is here...I don't know if we ever win a championship..we've only won 1-2 in my lifetime...but I KNOW we won't be at the bottom of the abyss anymore..and that is awesome.

Have a good one boys...happy days are here again!

Thank you. Fantastic read. And I feel the same way now. I did not dip into the deepest pit of despair, but I was getting there

 

[drvenner]

HELL YEAH!! BUCK FAMA!

 

[Weezer]

No, It's a big deal.

lmao. Julian ain't a 'Stayin.

 

[Glitch]

Who's enjoying this more than the rest of the college football world?

This guy......
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**Nick Saban wants to stay #1 at all costs, even if it means sabotaging DeBoer abd burning Tuscaloser to the ground. He has proven, without a doubt, that he is the biggest narcissist on the planet.

Saban has to be #1 at all costs!

Enjoy the ride, T-town!!!

Saban watching all the turmoil like...

 

[Glitch]

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[Weezer]

DeBoer will probably do at least as well, but there is no way it would ever be comparable...we were absolutely nuked into oblivion by 15 years of ineptitude.

Bama..even after this exodus..will still have a ton of talent, and they will get some talent back one way or another..DeBoer will have something to work with.

The thing is...that fanbase will not know how to deal with 9 win seasons, and they will go absolutely toxic if they only win 8, and that toxicity will corrode them to their foundations.

DeBoer has to win big...or else he won't last long.

We've seen Florida implode. We're witnessing Bama implode. I just need Georgia to implode, soon, and I'll feel like I won the Karma lottery.

 

[voltn21]

How in the hell did you not know this...we literally say all the time that Alabama has elite 4* and 5*s stacked up like cordwood, did you think we were kidding...did you never pay attention to recruiting classes?

Even after all this...they will still have a ton of talent.

It should help you understand the massive hill we have to climb to beat UGA..they are freaking loaded just like Bama has been.

Easy young grasshopper… I was saying it just looks amazing when you have it all laid out there to see, all the talent they have

 

[drvenner]

Another reason to not be combat arms. My finance folks will be at the barracks if you need anything.

Chairborne. Death from a desk.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Zalance Heard​

University of Tennessee​

In the UTK Student Directory​

 

[drvenner]

@SergeantVol

Are you part of JRTC?

Is that still at Fort Polk?

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Zalance Heard

University of Tennessee

In the UTK Student Directory​

 

[JCP201]

No more Sports Illustrated?

 

[Weezer]

How in the hell did you not know this...we literally say all the time that Alabama has elite 4* and 5*s stacked up like cordwood, did you think we were kidding...did you never pay attention to recruiting classes?

Even after all this...they will still have a ton of talent.

It should help you understand the massive hill we have to climb to beat UGA..they are freaking loaded just like Bama has been.

They have a ton of talent at certain positions. Looking at their roster on 247, They lost all their upper classmen at OT. Looks like they have 3 OT on scholarship atm, all were freshmen this past season. They have the same problem at CB. And they'll be thin at safety as well.

 

[Chuckie]

12/4/23- 4Star QB Tyler Buchner enters portal
12/4/23- 4Star WR Thaiu Jones-Bell enters portal
12/7/23- 3Star DL Isaiah Hastings enters portal
12/7/23- 4Star WR Ja’Corey Brooks enters portal
12/11/23- 3Star DL Aquino Barnes enters portal
12/15/23- Ja’Corey Brooks commits to Louisville
12/17/23- Aquino Barnes commits to Colorado
12/20/23- Tyler Buchner commits to Notre Dame lacrosse
1/1/24- ALABAMA LOSES PLAYOFF GAME
1/1/24- 5Star Junior EDGE Dallas Turner declares early for the NFL Draft
1/3/24- 3Star QB Eli Holstein enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star DL Monkell Goodwine enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Malik Benson enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Seth McLaughlin enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Terrence Ferguson enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star S Kristian Story enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star CB Earl Little II enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Shazam Preston enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star TE Miles Kitselman enters portal
1/3/24- 5Star Junior OT JC Latham declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star LB Ian Jackson enters portal
1/4/24- TE Jax Porter enters portal
1/4/24- 5Star Junior CB Kool-Aid McKinstry declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior LB Chris Braswell declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior Justin Eboigbe declares early for NFL draft
1/5/24- WR Haydon Neighbors enters portal
1/5/24- 4Star RB Roydell Williams enters portal
1/6/24- Earl Little II commits to Florida State
1/6/24- Seth McLaughlin commits to Ohio State
1/6/24- 4Star Senior WR Jermaine Burton declares early for NFL draft
1/7/24- 3Star S Jake Pope enters portal
1/7/24- Eli Holstein commits to Pitt
1/7/24- Monkell Goodwine commits to S Carolina
1/8/24- 3Star LB Kendrick Blackshire enters portal
1/8/24- Malik’s Benson commits to Florida State
1/10/24- NICK SABAN RETIRES
1/8/24- 5Star Sophomore CB Terrion Arnold declares early for NFL draft
1/10/24- Kristian Story commits to Kentucky
1/10/24- 5Star 2024 WR Ryan Williams decommits
1/11/24- 4Star Senior RB Jase McClellan declares early for NFL draft
1/11/24- Terrence Ferguson commits to Florida State
1/12/24- 5Star WR Isaiah Bond enters portal
1/12/24- Jake Pope commits to Georgia
1/13/24- 4Star DB Dezz Ricks enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star CB Antonio Kite enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star LB Shawn Murphy enters portal
1/13/24- Miles Kitselman commits to Tennessee
1/13/24- Roydell Williams commits to Florida State
1/14/24- 4Star TE Amari Niblack enters portal
1/14/24- Isiah Bond commits to Texas
1/14/24- 5Star 2025 WR Jaime Ffrench decommits
1/15/24- Isaiah Hastings commits to Syracuse
1/15/24- Shazz Preston commits to Tulane
1/15/24- Shawn Murphy commits to Florida State
1/16/24- 3Star CB Trey Amos enters portal
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 OL Mason Short decommits
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Javion Hilson decommits; flips to Florida State
1/16/24- Dezz Ricks commits to Texas A&M
1/16/24- Kendrick Blackshire commits to Texas
1/17/24- 5Star S Caleb Downs enters portal
1/17/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Zion Grady decommits
1/17/24- 5Star OT Kadyn Proctor enters portal
1/17/24- Antonio Kite commits to Auburn
1/18/24- 4Star 2024 CB James Grimsley enters portal
1/18/24- Amari Niblack commits to Texas
1/18/24- Ian Jackson commits to UTSA
1/19/24- 5Star QB Julian Sayin enters portal

Totals:
30 players have entered portal (four 5Star, fifteen 4Star, eleven 3Star)

22 players have committed elsewhere (one 5Star, thirteen 4Star, eight 3Star)

8 players have declared early for the NFL draft (four 5Star and four 4Star)

1 player has decommitted from the 2024 class (5Star)

4 players have decommited from the 2025 class (one 5Star, three 4Stars)

 

[drvenner]

THE guy who made me a Bears fan! Then I read Gale Sayers autobiography in elementary school. He was the forerunner of Barry Sanders (with a similar Kansas background to boot) a weapon as a receiver…and a victim of medieval 60’s medicine when it applied to knee injuries. Walter wasn’t as naturally physically gifted as either but built himself into a force back when physical training wasn’t streamlined.

I loved Sweetness too. He seemed to be on local TV here in East Tennessee a lot. He toiled for much of his career on bad teams. I also still don't understand why Ditka didn't let him score in the Super Bowl.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Easy young grasshopper… I was saying it just looks amazing when you have it all laid out there to see, all the talent they have

No biggie...It just shocks the hell out of me to see that people didn't KNOW this.

 

[UTSuave’]