Recruiting Football Talk VII

[eVOLve]

So VN wasn’t delusional when we thought the NCAA was out to get us.. think about it. Even Gafney no catch that was a TD.. all sorts of different times.

That’s okay though..
We got Donde, Danny and Heup out of it.

 

[eVOLve]

Tennessee is Gods country. No wonder so many are out to get us lol

 

[jave36]

But that's true of any collective, which all the major schools now have. Again, if we are guilty, everyone is guilty, and the NCAA won't get away with selective enforcement on this issue.

Exactly. The rules didn't exist, so everyone signed people for coming to the school or to entice them. Tennessee did nothing different than everyone else.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

McGill hates the idea of CFB giving up the facade of amatuerism. He's been one of the biggest proponents of the old model and was against NiL from the start (to his credit, MANY here were).

He'll either accept it or move on to watching UT intramural football at this point. It's inevitable. Hope he comes around...I think he may be slowly accepting the new reality.

You obviously have not been paying attention to my posts about this for a while...I don't like it, but the only path to a fair level playing field is a CBA.

The Amateur ideal is best to me...but the gross unfair advantages given to a select few have destroyed my faith in all of it.

Players are going to be paid, for real...by the schools...at some point that has to happen, it was an inevitability as soon as the Supreme Court gave their ruling...but...they will have to agree to things they probably don't want....that's part of it though.

 

[Weezer]

It's like I said, with everything ive read so far, I believe we win in court...it seems that this was a great fight to take, and im fired up and proud of Plowman and White; however, my initial statement/post, and my question was to the what if we don't?

At this moment, everything sounds great for our favor, our support, our case. I believe this could possibly be a death blow to the NCAA; but, if its not, for whatever reason...what then, whenever they pass down a repeat offender/LOIC?

Selective enforcement on the issue of NIL would cause Congress to strip the NCAA of any protections, IMO. I understand your "what if", I just don't see any way they can get away with it, because if they take us down, they have to do the same to every major university with a collective, which is just about all of them. And that won't fly.

 

[eVOLve]

Mount Cody still fn pisses me off

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

How much are you looking forward to the first players’ strike?

We’ll have a bunch of intramural rugby players playing for a playoff spot.

@Devo182 And this is why I hate all of this greedy ...we are always the losers.

 

[eVOLve]

Maybe us beating Miami did it

 

[eVOLve]

What’s y’all’s Mount Rushmore of us getting screwed?

 

[KB5252]

No problem...just that is the only way forward now..as soon as players unite and demand a piece of the pie from the Universities...the law will back them and the NCAA is DOA.

I don't know why some enterprising agent-lawyer groups have not already started organizing the players-prospective players to Class Action the NCAA out of existence.

There are no enforceable rules without a CBA...and there needs to be some rule. The players better understand they will have to give to get though.

As these players get money now through NIL there will be organizers doing just that. I bet they are already.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It's like I said, with everything ive read so far, I believe we win in court...it seems that this was a great fight to take, and im fired up and proud of Plowman and White; however, my initial statement/post, and my question was to the... what if we don't?

At this moment, everything sounds great for our favor, our support, our case. I believe this could possibly be a death blow to the NCAA; but, if its not, for whatever reason...what then, whenever they pass down a repeat offender/LOIC?

Then we are ed

 

[UTSuave’]

Gather round, pre- and post-madonnas alike!

The slaw is about to graded.

The victorians are about to be validated.

Just ensure that your presents are safely secured in your pockets so you don’t loose them.

 

[COOKEVOL]

Some Vols “fan” making fun of JJJ on twitter and bragging about being blocked by him

I absolutely hate that crap. Also hated when they booed Kamal Hadden when he was introduced. That’s just low class. I would love to follow them around with a bull horn and shout out every time they f up.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Tis true. Actually was around during the Butch to Pruitt coaching search. Then my dad got sick and I had kids, took a long hiatus from VN in general.

"Moran" is a RF euphemism...it has been for a few years now..

 

[eVOLve]

As these players get money now through NIL there will be organizers doing just that. I bet they are already.

NCAA has always had some type of foothold. Probably had some sway by the government. Don’t want to get into politics but…

Our government is weak and the ncaa is weak at the same time

 

[UTSuave’]

Tennessee is Gods country. No wonder so many are out to get us lol

Up until you hit 640 going past broadway

 

[SugarCC]

Selective enforcement on the issue of NIL would cause Congress to strip the NCAA of any protections, IMO. I understand your "what if", I just don't see any way they can get away with it, because if they take us down, they have to do the same to every major university with a collective, which is just about all of them. And that won't fly.

I agree completely; but, Weez...you've been around long enough to be caught off guard by the swift kick to the nuts.

However, I do believe the times, they are a'changin. I believe this may truly be the Time Of The Vols. This is a huge moment...in history, imo. And, whenever we're on the other side of this, victorious, just think about the swagger we can enter high schools and living rooms with...

 

[eVOLve]

Up until you hit 640 going past broadway

I’m sure even the garden had some rotten fruit lol

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

What’s y’all’s Mount Rushmore of us getting screwed?

There are sooooo many..

 

[SugarCC]

Then we are ed

I don't think we lose; but, yes, if we do, we are fked.

But, Weezer makes a good point...selective enforcement OF THIS, will be hard to overlook by our counterparts.

 

[UTSuave’]

I’m sure even the garden had some rotten fruit lol

**Eve enters the chat**

 

[DD4ME]

Do it

 

[85SugarVol]

I understand that, and very much agree. Take another example then, that doesn't include trying to avoid a buyout.

Take any of the MANY other examples of teams getting bowl bans and scholarship reductions throughout the years. Take 1993 Auburn...they were undefeated, could've played for National Title; but they were on probation, bowl ban. If the NCAA is so toothless, why didn't Auburn tell them to shove it?

LOL

Auburn in ‘93, lol? That was 30 years ago lol. Vastly different NCAA lol.

It’s against Tennessee State Law to try and prohibit a state school from postseason play. That’s why the NCAA gave up last time the AG threatened them over a postseason ban.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don't think we lose; but, yes, if we do, we are fked.

I would probably check out on sports altogether...it would destroy us for a a decade or more and I would probably be dead before we could compete again...but it would prove to me once and for all that we will never get a fair deal....so what is the damn point?

 

[eVOLve]

I don't think we lose; but, yes, if we do, we are fked.

But, Weezer makes a good point...selective enforcement OF THIS, will be hard to overlook by our counterparts.

If that happens, there’s some damn bad **** going on that we don’t see