Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Jimmy Football]

Also Caleb Williams father stated draft order of NFL teams will be a factor on whether he stays in College or declares for draft....what's up with that...???

“No idea.”

- John Elway Sr. & Archie Manning

 

[Vol423]

he threw for 462 yds and 5 TDs….. punished for not playing defensive back as well.

I guess he should have played for Deion.

 

[butchna]

Yea some rough years in QB department....til Romo came...

Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson...

 

[Vol423]

Also Caleb Williams father stated draft order of NFL teams will be a factor on whether he stays in College or declares for draft....what's up with that...???

Apparently he thinks he’s Jack Elway or Archie Manning.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Fields did some amazing things...in college. In the playoffs against Clemson with every throw causing pain, he willed a win. And we saw that last season that he's still a cheat code with his legs...moreso than Mahomes. You're easily impressed with party tricks. It's MENTALITY that seperates the greats from the merely good or mediocre.

Omg....

As I have already stated

I'm not saying he has the same mentality as Mahomes or that he will be the next Mahomes

I'm just pointing out, like thousands or millions of other people that he PLAYS like him. The way he physically moves around and throws the ball. It is very similar to Mahomes. Why do you keep bringing up mentality?

 

[knoxvol52]

Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson...

Don't forget the Ryan Leaf experiment

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Considering this guy's post history, he's just trying to stir up trouble.

Yeah.... I figured that out later. I checked his join date (2010) before I checked his post history.

 

[Ten_Titans]

K...we disagree. I see a ton of physical talent but nowhere near the alpha winner that is Mahomes.

That's a stretch considering Mahomes did nothing of significance in his college career.

I've seen USC play twice this year. I actually think they have a very similar team as us, outside of QB. Shaky on defense and at the skill positions. Mediocre Oline. But Caleb Williams just consistently makes plays for them.

 

[butchna]

Omg....

As I have already stated

I'm not saying he has the same mentality as Mahomes or that he will be the next Mahomes

I'm just pointing out, like thousands or millions of other people that he PLAYS like him. The way he physically moves around and throws the ball. It is very similar to Mahomes. Why do you keep bringing up mentality?

Because the ORIGINAL SUBJECT was who I preferred if my team was pursuing. I don't see a different creature than Fields. That he can flick the ball forward with one thumb while the other one's up his butt doesn't factor with me like it does with you.

 

[butchna]

That's a stretch considering Mahomes did nothing of significance in his college career.

I've seen USC play twice this year. I actually think they have a very similar team as us, outside of QB. Shaky on defense and at the skill positions. Mediocre Oline. But Caleb Williams just consistently makes plays for them.

He played at TEXAS TECH after being a 3 star recruit. Put him in LA with a decent cast and that rubber band isn't as challenged.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

 

[Vol423]

That’s harsh, but hilarious.

 

[volbeast33]

And still lost...all 3 games.

the lowest amount of points scored against them was 43….. not going to win many games giving up that many points….guess it was bryce young’s fault that Bama lost to us?

 

[knoxvol52]

Because the ORIGINAL SUBJECT was who I preferred if my team was pursuing. I don't see a different creature than Fields. That he can flick the ball forward with one thumb while the other one's up his butt doesn't factor with me like it does with you.

The showmanship doesn't translate well into the NFL...Johnny Manziel will attest to that...

 

[volbeast33]

Jeff George would put up stats...and lose. Gotta make that one play that was available to beat inferipr teams. That's Mahomes this past Super Bowl.

put up 38 like mahomes did and he still would have lost all 3 games…. usc had no defense.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Because the ORIGINAL SUBJECT was who I preferred if my team was pursuing. I don't see a different creature than Fields. That he can flick the ball forward with one thumb while the other one's up his butt doesn't factor with me like it does with you.

Okay if you think he will fail like Fields that's fine, but their play style is obviously different.

But if you want your bears to pass on him that's on you. There doesn't seem to be issues with Williams in the processing, reacting category either. Maybe he isn't clutch, but we shall see.

 

[volbeast33]

Yes they do. I have Pickens on my FF team. I’m hoping he lights up the Raiders tonight. They need to bench Najee Harris.

not Najee’s fault

 

[Weezer]

just enjoy other teams miseries…. my steelers have our own though.

Will Levis might be available for trade....

 

[butchna]

put up 38 like mahomes did and he still would have lost all 3 games…. usc had no defense.

Far as you know. There were first downs not converted and clutch situations botched in the making of those movies.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

Fairweather fan!

Yep.

 

[butchna]

Okay if you think he will fail like Fields that's fine, but their play style is obviously different.

But if you want your bears to pass on him that's on you. There doesn't seem to be issues with Williams in the processing, reacting category either. Maybe he isn't clutch, but we shall see.

I don't think it's as obvious as you. I think we'd be drafting basically the same guy. Not convinced that Maye is generational. But I have no power or say in the situation...so go Bears.

 

[jave36]

I don't think it's as obvious as you. I think we'd be drafting basically the same guy. Not convinced that Maye is generational. But I have no power or say in the situation...so go Bears.

Fields isn't that much better or worse than either. I think they should worry about getting a decent team built instead of wasting more top picks on yet another QB. Get a great OL and see if fields looks good. If not, whatever new qb will have a better chance of success.

 

[knoxvol52]

I don't think it's as obvious as you. I think we'd be drafting basically the same guy. Not convinced that Maye is generational. But I have no power or say in the situation...so go Bears.

Hell some draft experts put Riley Leonard of Duke just below Williams and Maye ...you had. Chance to see him yet I missed Clemson game??

 

[butchna]

Fields isn't that much better or worse than either. I think they should worry about getting a decent team built instead of wasting more top picks on yet another QB. Get a great OL and see if fields looks good. If not, whatever new qb will have a better chance of success.

Ideally, those two first rounders in the next draft would be addressing edge rusher and WR. But if you don’t have the answer at QB, you don’t pass on a potential franchise at the position. This season is the beta test if there’s anything there to work with. If not, it’s malpractice to continue in that direction. I think Getsy’s gone sooner rather than later and Flus is on short notice. Poles knows there’s no padding after that.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

-VQ update on Cooper Mays. Triple hernia and abdominal wall repair in the second week of August is the official procedure.

This is really good news. Hopefully he can be full go this week. Move Ollie to LG, Mincey to RT, and let’s see what the OL looks like.