Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#10,176
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Why do contemporary American soldiers seem to have far higher rates of this stuff than the soldiers of old?

It seems like it would help to know the answer to that question...war is hell, but it has always been hell....so why?
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Mental health wasn’t even seen as a thing until during WW1 when slowly over the war it was beginning to be figured out something wasn’t right. But early on it took literal physical symptoms to even start to think something was wrong and they might not just be mere cowards. (If you ran out of your trench losing your mind you were caught and shot.)

At one point they were losing more mental to complete breakdowns than what they could replace them with.

During WW2 a few improvements were made, but for the most part the men drank and raped their way thru their mental health struggles. (Ex: WW2 estimated between 70-120 MILLION rapes across Europe…admittedly mostly BY far from Nazi’s and Soviet Union but there was blame all around.

Suicide was an issue in both wars on a very large level.

Once home from the war most became alcoholics, secluded themselves, became abusive or lived lonely lives struggling to cope forever.

Vietnam was the same.

I’ve barely scratched the surface and this reply is too long. Just sharing a bit to ponder is all.

Finally we are STARTING to get it and recognize we need massive care for our vets. I’m so thankful that at least we are starting to realize it.

So much more to go tho.

To all who have served, from the depths of my SOUL…thank you. I did not. But I try to learn to try to begin to understand so maybe I can try to better listen. God bless you all. 🇺🇸❤️
 
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UpstateVol613 said:
How delusional can you be? In an alternative world where everything lined up perfectly I could end up with Salma Hayek……but that ain’t reality.

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It’s not crazy to think that if you buy a lottery ticket that you might win a non-trivial amount of money. But it’s still very unlikely.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Here is what I have said from the beginning:
1. Heup’s weakness is recruiting
2. People needed to stop freaking out about recruiting… it would look a lot more like Clemsons recruiting than Alabamas or Georgias.
3. As long as our scouting is good…. get a few stars and have very few true misses( done pretty well there and transfers help)
4. one thing that really impresses me is how Heup sets standards, and goals for his program but allows his coaches to do their jobs.
5. I felt that having the best administration in college sports would help cover up/fix any weaknesses that any coach had at the moment. It is why we are dominating the all sports trophy.
6. I felt eventually our recruits and rankings would match up. ( seems to be happening now)
9. I don’t think Heup would be as successful if hired by our previous administrations.
10. I have always felt that you build a program from the top down… I don’t know why this is a negative.

Go Vols!!! Let’s win it all this year.
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But see you are wrong on #1. Heupel has proven you wrong.
 
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85SugarVol said:
It’s an awful outcome that so many of our vets suffer.

But do current vets succumb at a higher rate, or do we simply hear about it more often given the digital age we live in?

Irrespective of the answer, we should be doing more. Period.
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Great question. Maybe also the stigma is less so and more vets are willing to acknowledge and seek help. I’m sure plenty other reasons.

At the end of the day, I hope we’re getting them all the help they need. It’s the least we can do. God bless them.
 
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BADGER_VOL said:
Mental health wasn’t even seen as a thing until during WW1 when slowly over the war it was beginning to be figured out something wasn’t right. But early on it took literal physical symptoms to even start to think something was wrong and they might not just be mere cowards. (If you ran out of your trench losing your mind you were caught and shot.)

At one point they were losing more mental to complete breakdowns than what they could replace them with.

During WW2 a few improvements were made, but for the most part the men drank and raped their way thru their mental health struggles. (Ex: WW2 estimated between 70-120 MILLION rapes across Europe…admittedly mostly BY far from Nazi’s and Soviet Union but there was blame all around.

Suicide was an issue in both wars on a very large level.

Once home from the war most became alcoholics, secluded themselves, became abusive or lived lonely lives struggling to cope forever.

Vietnam was the same.

I’ve barely scratched the surface and this reply is too long. Just sharing a bit to ponder is all.

Finally we are STARTING to get it and recognize we need massive care for our vets. I’m so thankful that at least we are starting to realize it.

So much more to go tho.

To all who have served, from the depths of my SOUL…thank you. I did not. But I try to learn to try to begin to understand so maybe I can try to better listen. God bless you all. 🇺🇸❤️
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I do not post much, but this caught my attention and wanted to share this information that might be of help to somebody in need.

One of the organizations my company works with is America’s Mighty Warriors, which is a group that deals directly with Vets and PTSD. Debbie Lee is the founder and her son Marc Lee was the first SEAL KIA during the battle of Rhamadhi in Aug of 2006. The stories of lives saved through the help this group can offer are simply amazing and profound . I have witnessed personally those who have walked thru the darkest places and have come out with renewed hope and incredible testimonies. Please share this with anyone you know who might be struggling or reaching out for help. While it does cost money, there are many sponsorships available. God bless our soldiers and their families!
 
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