Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Batman1948]

Watched the Lady Vols lose a heartbreaker but they showed some grit and toughness I haven’t seen in a while..Just wait until she starts signing great recruiting classes!! 🩵

She already has the #2 class coming in next year and that's without any portal players

 

[Brillovol]

That's what I told a "friend" who complained on facebook. Use your dang brain. Ironically, he also regularly posts conspiracies and distrust of government and complains of government spending. I think he legitimately doesn't think radar is real and just doesn't believe anything he can't see. I think he'sa flat earther. It's pretty hilarious. But that's why he's a car salesman and has moved a dozen times around the country for... car sales jobs (no offense to fellow salespersons).

Edit: Oh and... that averages out to $150k per person.... want to hire me? I'm bonafide

Well keep in mind overhead, so divide that in half for a true average.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

LVs may be a problem come March. The two point losses to top teams will start becoming wins soon. And if this kind of turnaround happens this fast, what exactly are we all looking at long term?

Seems to be the process with a team that is actually turning things around. Their next step is just learning how to put a full game together and winning these close games against the better teams. The fact they're already at this point is a really good sign of what's to come.

 

[SoilVol]

Well keep in mind overhead, so divide that in half for a true average.

Yeah I assume some of that probably covers benefits packages.

Also, I just rechecked the post. He actually went and opened his dealership and drove there in his Versa (Nashville area) because he was CONVINCED it wasn't going to snow, doesn't know what precipitation percentages mean, and thinks radar is fake. Nobody else came in. Now he's asking everyone to chill and stop giving him a hard time because he closed the store and is trying to get back home safely and even the main roads aren't cleared

So much for all that Northern experience bud

 

[Brillovol]

Warm take:

Kim is second only to Tony to being the best coach on campus and could pass him.

 

[Brillovol]

Yeah I assume some of that probably covers benefits packages.

Also, I just rechecked the post. He actually went and opened his dealership and drove there in his Versa (Nashville area) because he was CONVINCED it wasn't going to snow, doesn't know what precipitation percentages mean, and thinks radar is fake. Nobody else came in. Now he's asking everyone to chill and stop giving him a hard time because he closed the store and is trying to get back home safely and even the main roads aren't cleared

So much for all that Northern experience bud

Lol, do you consider this dimwit a “friend?”

 

[Batman1948]

They said the same about Tebow and he won a playoff game

Tebow was not a good NFL QB, his skill set was great for the college game but that didn't translate to the NFL.

Same with Tim Couch

 

[Orangeburst]

That's what I told a "friend" who complained on facebook. Use your dang brain. Ironically, he also regularly posts conspiracies and distrust of government and complains of government spending. I think he legitimately doesn't think radar is real and just doesn't believe anything he can't see. I think he'sa flat earther. It's pretty hilarious. But that's why he's a car salesman and has moved a dozen times around the country for... car sales jobs (no offense to fellow salespersons).

Edit: Oh and... that averages out to $150k per person.... want to hire me? I'm bonafide

Brillo requires giving your all like washing signs at home and such

 

[NMVol]

Tebow was not a good NFL QB, his skill set was great for the college game but that didn't translate to the NFL.

Same with Tim Couch

Same with Heath Shuler.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I know you look to me for answers (as you should, I'm right about most everything) but I am just not sure if that statement is true.

 

[Orangeburst]

Lol, do you consider this dimwit a “friend?”

btw..you see any updates on I-24 design around Moccasin Bend?

 

[Brillovol]

Brillo requires giving your all like washing signs at home and such

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I refer to Kramer’s luxury lanes all the time.

 

[Rizzo924]

John is great at doing the UT baseball games but he lets Vince do some of the mid-week games and that dude is terrible.

I dread the middle third of the games because of him.

 

[vol94]

That requires you to make hard decisions and be willing to adapt.

IMO--- Did you see our Vanilla offense this season that teams were starting to figure out and scheme against? Did you see our WR's struggle to get separation, drop catchable balls, and now we have a mass exodus because there's smoke on them not gelling with the position coach? Nico many times running for his life? Yes we still won 10 games, but this offense took a step back this season of what we saw before.
We are getting subpar development on the Oline with what we are recruiting in, needing to continually grab from the portal for starters, so changes need to be made... Our defense had a ton of raw talent to mask a DC who seemingly refused to make adjustments during the game or scheme differently based on the opponent... That's why the better teams figured out what to do and had success... LB's were out of position and stuggled to pick up coverage, getting burned regularly after teams adjusted and figured it out the second half of the season. Pili going down killed us on that front...Sure I think he wants to win a natty, several in fact, but now the shine is a bit worn off and he needs to continue to adapt, adjust, make hard/not fun decisions, and move forward as this new NIL game of college football evolves.
I see other teams making adjustments, I do not at this point see Heup making adjustments. As of today we have the same staff, and maybe 2 new players (1 Online/1 unproven WR) out of the portal that will make a difference when we need to replace/upgrade Cooper, Spraggins, and Campbell. We have the SEC player of the year at RB gone and only young talent at this point to replace. At WR we need an experienced, proven player that gets separation and changes games. We definitely have talent according to the star rankings, but most of it is unproven or still getting settled.

Next season FL will be greatly improved, GA will be as good or better due to NIL, AL will continue to pull in talent and most likely settle in and be better, LSU will be better, SC is coming on strong/wouldn't want to play them, TX reloading, TAMU reloading, Auburn will be in year two of stockpiling elite talent top to bottom, Ole Miss continues to try to portal shop and isn't going away, etc...We seem to be treading water at this point. Yes, all this is debatable, just my opinion based on what I see with the changes they are making.
Honestly, If this is what we are going to ride with into next season, we will drop FL, AL, GA, and OK will be 50/50--- that's not going to make the playoff/compete for a championship.

we'll see how it all plays out----- I really like Heup, but I am not seeing going into year 5 what it takes to get to the elite tier level yet from him and the AD, except higher prices on games/concessions, etc... If we can at least replace the talent we lost, then that is definitely a step in the right direction.

Good points. So how do you take more kids from the portal when we only have 1-2 spots (scholarships) rt now?

Should he ask some in the roster to leave? Or, did he make a mistake in singing 24 kids from high school?

Coaching staff- I agree that w head deficiencies this yr with our O line, LBs, and receivers (passing game). Was it personnel or scheme?

 

[Batman1948]

Riley Leonard is the most ungainly runner ive ever seen.

Have you seen Nico run? He needs to spend a week or two with the baseball team to learn how to slide properly

 

[Volunteer21]

@KingVFL you think we renew our strength coach? Was Jeronimo Boche not returning our choice or his?

 

[Batman1948]

I hate ND but I don't ever want James Franklin to have nice things.

Good job, irish. I hope they win the whole thing. Marcus Freeman seems like a pretty good dude and I'll be pulling for him

Freeman should be the National Coach of the year. If it's someone else, they should do away with the honor

 

[JacketVol]

1) Why do you hate the players on our roster?

2) what makes you think they aren’t good enough to play considering they were recruited by this staff?

3) at what point will you trust Josh Heupel?

At what point will you put him on ignore

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

It’s a healthy baby boy! Our 4 year old is also a boy.
1:47pm
7lb 12oz
21” long
Momma is doing great also.

 

[Brillovol]

btw..you see any updates on I-24 design around Moccasin Bend?

I have, yes. Nothing in depth yet tho. Still in study stage. We did look at the choice lanes in that area. Not sure if that’s going to be financially viable as an option or not. Likely not.

It’s gonna be a hard build. Lots of bridges, walls, etc. I-24 was built into the river when it was first built. Gonna be hard to do that again.

 

[JMSqb11]

That requires you to make hard decisions and be willing to adapt.

IMO--- Did you see our Vanilla offense this season that teams were starting to figure out and scheme against? Did you see our WR's struggle to get separation, drop catchable balls, and now we have a mass exodus because there's smoke on them not gelling with the position coach? Nico many times running for his life? Yes we still won 10 games, but this offense took a step back this season of what we saw before.
We are getting subpar development on the Oline with what we are recruiting in, needing to continually grab from the portal for starters, so changes need to be made... Our defense had a ton of raw talent to mask a DC who seemingly refused to make adjustments during the game or scheme differently based on the opponent... That's why the better teams figured out what to do and had success... LB's were out of position and stuggled to pick up coverage, getting burned regularly after teams adjusted and figured it out the second half of the season. Pili going down killed us on that front...Sure I think he wants to win a natty, several in fact, but now the shine is a bit worn off and he needs to continue to adapt, adjust, make hard/not fun decisions, and move forward as this new NIL game of college football evolves.
I see other teams making adjustments, I do not at this point see Heup making adjustments. As of today we have the same staff, and maybe 2 new players (1 Online/1 unproven WR) out of the portal that will make a difference when we need to replace/upgrade Cooper, Spraggins, and Campbell. We have the SEC player of the year at RB gone and only young talent at this point to replace. At WR we need an experienced, proven player that gets separation and changes games. We definitely have talent according to the star rankings, but most of it is unproven or still getting settled.

Next season FL will be greatly improved, GA will be as good or better due to NIL, AL will continue to pull in talent and most likely settle in and be better, LSU will be better, SC is coming on strong/wouldn't want to play them, TX reloading, TAMU reloading, Auburn will be in year two of stockpiling elite talent top to bottom, Ole Miss continues to try to portal shop and isn't going away, etc...We seem to be treading water at this point. Yes, all this is debatable, just my opinion based on what I see with the changes they are making.
Honestly, If this is what we are going to ride with into next season, we will drop FL, AL, GA, and OK will be 50/50--- that's not going to make the playoff/compete for a championship.

we'll see how it all plays out----- I really like Heup, but I am not seeing going into year 5 what it takes to get to the elite tier level yet from him and the AD, except higher prices on games/concessions, etc... If we can at least replace the talent we lost, then that is definitely a step in the right direction.

The fear of Florida baffles me.... Yes Lagway is coming back, but Napier is still the coach. He tries to be the smartest coach in the room and do things "by the chart"..... He's not that good.

 

[Orangeburst]

I have, yes. Nothing in depth yet tho. Still in study stage. We did look at the choice lanes in that area. Not sure if that’s going to be financially viable as an option or not. Likely not.

It’s gonna be a hard build. Lots of bridges, walls, etc. I-24 was built into the river when it was first built. Gonna be hard to do that again.

I suggest lots of dynamite

 

[LoudOrange]

He's just too proud to give it up and probably thinks he's doing a really good game

I think the family member with power of attorney or financial conservatorship wants to keep the money flowing. Hope not, but possible.

 

[UTSuave’]

LVs may be a problem come March. The two point losses to top teams will start becoming wins soon. And if this kind of turnaround happens this fast, what exactly are we all looking at long term?

Seeing the impact/turn around Kim has made this quick makes me upset we didn’t get rid of both hollys a lot sooner…it also makes me wonder what Kim could have done with the level of talent the previous two coaches had and wasted it…I hope everyone remembers the posters in that LV forum who was upset about the hollys being fired and kim being hired…every time she wins that’s another knock on the LV forum bias uproar …couldn’t happen to a better bunch of people

 

[Vols2DaWall]

I see contact. I’m not saying he crushed him but impeded his path to the ball

I get that this is technically a foul. But it's so counter-intuitive to the football game. Warren was never getting that. It was a **** throw into multiple coverage. Zero reason PSU should be rewarded here.

Again, right call. But I hate it.