Recruiting Football Talk VIII

Wasn't technically the crown. I had to replay it, close, but not directly on top of the head.
It looks like ithis year it doesn't have to be the crown if the player is defenseless. It can be helmet, shoulder, arm, etc. But the rules are not clear at all imo. I think there is a contradiction. am not talking about the play (which I didn't see) but in general.

How do you read it? You can answer this later, if you want.

From the front matter:
Points of Emphasis

The NCAA Football Rules Committee has extraordinary pride in the Football Code, which was introduced in 1916 and has been updated several times.These guidelines form a harmony of agreement among coaches, players, game officials and administrators that places each contest in an environment of fairness and sportsmanship.It is noted that the Code emphasizes the following unethical practices: “Using the helmet as a weapon.The helmet is for protection of the player...” and “players and coaches should emphasize the elimination of targeting and initiating contact against a defenseless opponent and/or with the crown of the helmet.” Every participant in the collegiate football scene shares a responsibility for ethical conduct that enhances the future of this American tradition.

PROTECTION OF DEFENSELESS PLAYERS / TARGETING—The NCAA Football Rules Committee continues to embrace the targeting rule in order to promote player safety, reduce head contact and eliminate specific targeting actions from the game.The language in 9-1-3 and 9-1-4 stipulates that no player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player or contact an opponent with the crown (top) of their helmet.The definition of “crown of the helmet,” approved starting with the 2022 season, focused the attention on the top of the helmet.The term “forcible contact” has replaced the word “initiate” to ensure the intent of the rule is clear.

These actions appear in two rules: Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3) and Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player (Rule 9-1-4).Use of the helmet as a weapon and intentional (targeted) contact to the head or neck area are serious safety concerns.The penalties for fouls under both 9-1-3 and 9-1-4 include automatic disqualification.The committee continues to emphasize that coaches and officials must be diligent to insure that players understand and abide by these rules.A progressive penalty was added in 2019 to continue to emphasize adherence to this rule.Rule 2-27-14 defines and lists characteristics of a defenseless player.

The appeal process for players disqualified for targeting in the second half of a game established starting with the 2022 season will continue in 2023.If the national coordinator concludes that it is clearly obvious the player should not have been disqualified, the suspension will be vacated

The rules (from Section 9):
Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet

ARTICLE 3.No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of their helmet.The crown of the helmet is the top segment of the helmet; namely, the circular area defined by a 6-inch radius from the apex (top) of the helmet.This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below).When in question, it is a foul.(Rule 9-6) (A.R.9-1-3-I)

Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player

ARTICLE 4.No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below).When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6).(A.R.9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch.A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.

A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.

Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.

Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.

Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14).When in question, a player is defenseless.Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:

A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.This includes an offensive player in a passing posture with focus downfield.

A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier.

A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.

A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier.

A player on the ground.

A player obviously out of the play.

A player who receives a blind-side block.

A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.

A quarterback any time after a change of possession

A ball carrier who has obviously given themselves up and is sliding feet-first.
 
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I do think banks was lucky to have an elite DL that hid some of his deficiencies, but I agree, I'd rather have some continuity this coming year.

Something on offense needs to improve drastically though, and I'm not sure that can happen if you just keep everyone.
Banks lack of adjustments/blitzs against Georgia and OSU was the most frustrating thing he did (or didn't) do this season.

I would like to see someone a little more aggressive running the defense.


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Offensively, Elerbee and Pope catch a lot of anger from the fans. I personally think Pope deserves it more than Elerbee. The WRs regressed this season and I thought preseason that would be our best group on offense. (The o-line was a close 2nd to "most disappointing offensive unit". So I'm not super excited about Elerbee either.) If we had to lose an offensive coach, I'd cut Pope
 
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Can someone convince me why many of you are rooting for osu and thus why I should? I hate them and will never forgive them for this playoffs first round game, or for losing to uga by a field goal in the cfp 2 years ago.
They whipped us. I can only hope they whip everyone to justify our whipping. Also eff the SEC.
 
Texas WRs just aren’t talented I suppose. Can’t get separation and all that.
OSU's front is in the backfield almost every play. That's all he can do is get it to the backs. No time to get a play set up down field.

Gotta give Texas credit. I thought they'd get boat raced. Still might... But they're hanging around
 
I do think banks was lucky to have an elite DL that hid some of his deficiencies, but I agree, I'd rather have some continuity this coming year.

Something on offense needs to improve drastically though, and I'm not sure that can happen if you just keep everyone.

Lucky? I mean he’s the DC and obviously RG is allowed to develop & recruit his guys. Gotta also give some credit to Banks & Willie, secondary was improved a lot. Only 2 teams were able to really pass on them.

I’m hoping that WR room turnover helps the offense. Hyatt improved because he put in the work, seems like a lotta those guys leaving weren’t doing that.
 

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