Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[knoxvol52]

You are welcome. So glad you can take constructive criticism.

I'm glad you're glad. See ya around...

 

[itsme]

I think the passing game is a combination of things. Nico had some areas of struggle especially on the deep ball (WR were wide open many times that would pump up the passing stats), OL struggled early then played some better down the stretch, WR had many drops on the intermediate routes especially, probably most importantly is our rushing attack was very good and effective so it makes sense we leaned on it (we did win 10 games and make the playoffs so hard to knock that).

My biggest take way from it all is that when our passing attack is like it was in 2022 we can take the next step, especially with the defense we had this year, I think we need to work some things out schematically and creatively but even still we have to connect on our deep shots to be at our best.

I think a lot falls in the WR room. Nico wasn't perfect but man we missed drive saving plays because of drops. Love Bru and how he plays but I hope he doesn't come back. He isn't a true #1 that they expected. Hopefully Matthews and Staley make big year 2 leaps.

 

[Weezer]

You did nothing to offend just stating facts. Everyone lives in Glass Houses...

I hate glass houses. But I love teasing. I give and I take. Must be that thick skin from living at altitude. #yetilife

 

[Vols4us]

The progression of the team is totally dependent on the improvement of the offense. The D is fundamentally sound as is the kicking game. Time to take any limitations off and sink or swim. That means Nico has to take a big step forward and they have to play the young talent everywhere else on O.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I think the passing game is a combination of things. Nico had some areas of struggle especially on the deep ball (WR were wide open many times that would pump up the passing stats), OL struggled early then played some better down the stretch, WR had many drops on the intermediate routes especially, probably most importantly is our rushing attack was very good and effective so it makes sense we leaned on it (we did win 10 games and make the playoffs so hard to knock that).

My biggest take way from it all is that when our passing attack is like it was in 2022 we can take the next step, especially with the defense we had this year, I think we need to work some things out schematically and creatively but even still we have to connect on our deep shots to be at our best.

Good post.

Also, yes the 2022 offense with 2024 defense wins the Championship in any of those years 22,23,24... averaging 46 points per game with a defense that only gives up 16 is stout. I believe with the talent we are landing now Banks can keep the defense in the top 15 every year. If we can get the vertical passing game AND the usual 2500+ yards per game rushing that we have produced the last 3 years (1st time in program history) then we can win our next Title. If our WR room and Oline can grow up fast, we have a shot to do that in 2026 IMO. So exciting to be a legit top 10 program again on the field...not just in the record books.

 

[peaygolf]

 

[Weezer]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

 

[screenthis]

I think a lot falls in the WR room. Nico wasn't perfect but man we missed drive saving plays because of drops. Love Bru and how he plays but I hope he doesn't come back. He isn't a true #1 that they expected. Hopefully Matthews and Staley make big year 2 leaps.

I'd love to have Bru back. He seems to add so much to the locker room as well as on the phone (phone....lol...I meant on the field). Plus, he'd be one more year removed from his injury. He reminds me of Jennings in toughness.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

Idk why ppl are upset about this

Upset is too strong of an emotion, more like

 

[Devo182]

Oklahoma should've just stayed in Big 12, they would be running that conference in football and at least above average basketball and baseball.

Don't have to attached at the hip with Texas to be successful, the Red River Rivalry would never be cancelled it could've been an OOC game for both.

Oklahoma was 2-6 in SEC football league play and now are 0-5 in league play in basketball. Good times for Oklahoma...

Sorta stinks because I have nothing against OU.

Thought our Home and Home years ago was fun and respectful. Similar to how I feel about Oregon.

Wish Texas was where OU is rn.

 

[screenthis]

Good post.

Also, yes the 2022 offense with 2024 defense wins the Championship in any of those years 22,23,24... averaging 46 points per game with a defense that only gives up 16 is stout. I believe with the talent we are landing now Banks can keep the defense in the top 15 every year. If we can get the vertical passing game AND the usual 2500+ yards per game rushing that we have produced the last 3 years (1st time in program history) then we can win our next Title. If our WR room and Oline can grow up fast, we have a shot to do that in 2026 IMO. So exciting to be a legit top 10 program again on the field...not just in the record books.

It will be intriguing to see what schematic changes Heupel deploys to correct issues over the last two years. If we stick with the same coaches on the offensive side, can Tennessee make the necessary adjustments to once again be an explosive passing team? Will Nico make the next step? Gonna be a fun ride.

 

[Devo182]

Ernie, Bernie, Holdsclaw, ZZ...


Bring us all the New Yorkers!!

 

[peaygolf]

I hate glass houses. But I love teasing. I give and I take. Must be that thick skin from living at altitude. #yetilife

Your kind like to be hidden too much to live in a glass houses anyway

 

[Devo182]

What position is he gonna play here

That was my first thought. Going to be hard to convince 3 elite talented tackles to stick around.

Obviously, ideally...you could make one into a guard, but few players would be willing to do that when all the $$$ is at the tackle spots.

 

[Orange.]

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I got no hate for Tyler Summitt ...dont know the guy. I will say this though: his dad is a very successful (rich) banking executive, Pat made millions at UT and was said to be thrifty which she apparently left all to her only child...Tyler. he retired after working a couple years as a coach in his early 20s...

But I am flabbergasted that Pat was allowed to name her early 20s aged son as the beneficiary of her Tennessee state employees pension instead of her 60? Year old ex husband....so Tennessees pension plan is on the hook to pay Tyler $173,000 a YEAR for the rest of his life?!?! For likely 50 years or maybe even more? He may draw $10,000,000 off a pension his mommy earned? Thats like winning the powerball lottery. $250k a year for life OR X million dollars...

Thats insane. They need to close that loophole. Why would everyone NOT name their kid instead of a spouse? You would be a fool to name your husband or wife that is likely to die 20 or 30 years earlier. Never heard of that before. Thats crazy. Tyler is a trust fund baby. Lmao. I hope that with Pats dementia she never knew about Tyler knocking up his point guard while married to his childhood sweetheart. That would have hurt and shamed her.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

Was anyone else's first introduction to Bob Uecker, him interviewing wrestlers at WrestleMania 4 and getting choked by Andre The Giant?

Nope this was...

 

[Vol423]

What a sad childhood I had. This is not the way I remember making snow angels.
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I doubt you were built for it.

 

[reVOLution33]

I was today years old when I learned Patric Young, former Gators BBall player and SEC Network analyst, is paralyzed from a 2022 car wreck.

Ban all vehicles!!!

 

[Vol423]

Nope this was...

Back when Miller Lite commercials were funny.

The 6 best Bob Uecker Miller Lite commercials of all time

Bob Uecker could truly do it all.

ftw.usatoday.com

 

[MoCo_Vol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Also...not excusing him, but folks made it into a bit more than it really was imo as well. He was only 3 years older than the player and they were married in 2018 (still married as well). A coach dating a player is never okay, but Tyler wasn't the first to do it and unfortunately won't be the last. They were both consenting adults.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I got no hate for Tyler Summitt ...dont know the guy. I will say this though: his dad is a very successful (rich) banking executive, Pat made millions at UT and was said to be thrifty which she apparently left all at her only child...Tyler. he retired after working a couple years as a coach in his early 20s...

But I am flabbergasted that Pat was allowed to name her early 20s aged son as the beneficiary of her Tennessee state employees pension instead of her 60? Year old ex husband....so Tennessees pension plan is on the hook to pay Tyler $173,000 a YEAR for the rest of his life?!?! For likely 50 years or maybe even more? He may draw $10,000,000 off a pension his mommy earned? Thats like winning the powerball lottery. $250k a year for life OR X million dollars...

Thats insane. They need to close that loophole. Why would everyone NOT name their kid instead of a spouse? You would be a fool to name your husband or wife that is likely to die 20 or 30 years earlier. Never heard of that before. Thats crazy. Tyler is a trust fund baby. Lmao. I hope that with Pats dementia she never knew about Tyler knocking up his point guard while married to his childhood sweetheart. That would have hurt and shamed her.

Most pension plans have age restrictions, he CAN draw it now, but wouldn't get the full yearly amount.

I work for the gubment and my pension is structured to be a very small percentage if drawn on before retirement age. Even if left to my wife she would also incur a massive penalty to draw it early. I also don't think you can just name an ex-spouse as a beneficiary. If my wife and I divorced it would 100% default to my child.

Yeah just looked into this... it is a bit of an interesting loophole and lots of folks take advantage.

Source: Pat Summitt's will leaves 'personal property' to Tyler Summitt

Tyler Summitt also was designated by his mother to be a non-spouse beneficiary of her state pension. When she retired, Pat Summitt opted to collect a monthly benefit of $14,460, or $173,520 annually in 2012. That benefit, with an annual cost-of-living adjustment, is now collected by Tyler Summitt for the rest of his life. Pat Summitt could have opted instead to collect $21,141 per month, or $253,632 annually, without choosing a beneficiary, and the payments would have ended upon her death.

A News Sentinel analysis in 2014 showed that 2,861 Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System retirees who chose non-spouse beneficiaries and their survivors could draw almost $1 billion, assuming they all lived until age 80. Records showed some retirees had chosen beneficiaries as young as infants to receive lifetime pension payments. More than one-third of the 2,861 beneficiaries were younger than 40 years old at the time of the retiree’s retirement, records showed.

Also did more digging, it appears that Tyler can only get 50% of the benefits until his death. Which is still no small amount.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

For anyone wanting the story on Tyler and his mistakes. He does not coach now. Lives in Ohio. Is married and has a son with the former player. Lives basically off his mom's estate which might be the bigger travesty, but it is what it is. Adds some complexity to a quote of a once proud mom and makes it resonate with deeper truth too.

'We still feel the guilt:' Tyler Summitt, son of legendary coach, tries to move on from scandal

Five years after then-coach Tyler Summitt was caught having an affair with his point guard at Louisiana Tech, the couple are married and have a son.

www.usatoday.com

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[MarcoVol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Also...not excusing him, but folks made it into a bit more than it really was imo as well. He was only 3 years older than the player and they were married in 2018 (still married as well). A coach dating a player is never okay, but Tyler wasn't the first to do it and unfortunately won't be the last. They were both consenting adults.

I’ve done dumb things in life for sure! Sleeping with your own player gotta be one of the dumbest mf’n things you can do.

Wonder if the name was different and you looked at just the facts how Vol fans would judge this situation:

- named HC bc of who mom was
- cheats on wife with player
- lives off mom’s pension

Feel like if this was a Bama story some of yans wouldn’t be so forgiving.

 

[Jackcrevol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Some things eat cats and dogs...and spit their carcasses out. you're sick.